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Old 07-18-2012, 12:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
Chaddie84
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Default Be Cautious with this Seller

I gotta vent on this one a bit. I'm usually pretty easy-going and just wanted to inform the seller with a couple items he may want to improve on, such as asking for additional money than original asking prices to cover shipping (and then some), packaging lots of cards in flat-rate boxes RAW and overvaluing the cards in a lot. Instead of acknowledging and using the feedback constructively, I'm hit it defensiveness and negativity. I very rarely make a fuss, but when I pay EXTRA to have something shipped safely, I hope it is at the very least packaged correctly.

Original Sale Thread: Sending in 75 #'ed, auto, and jersey cards to COMC. Checking here first

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***NOT 75 CARDS ANYMORE. SENDING IN 150-200. SAME PRICE!!!!!!!!!!

I am sending in a bunch of cards to COMC but I just wanted to see if you guys were interested in them first. I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND TELL YOU EVERY CARD IN THE LOT. There are 150-200 cards including about 10 autos/relics and almost all the other cards are serial numbered. I am looking for 40$ shipped which is a hell of a deal. If you piece it out you will make at least double and probably closer to triple your money. Let me know if you are interested as I would like to ship tomorrow. Thanks.
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The autos and relics are most of the ones in my bucket with the exception of the two bichettes that already sold and one or two others. There is about 20 or so of my nicer rookie/insert/parallel cards and the rest are numbered. I know the lowest is out of /99 and 80% of them are the ones that are gold bordered or blue bordered from update, series 1, series 2 etc. numbered out of the year.

LMK with other questions.
Thanks for sharing. I don't see the immediate doubling or tripling of money on this, at least not without stuff sitting for a bit. I'm going to have to pass on the lot, but I greatly appreciate the reply. I'm sitting at around 800 cards to send into COMC, so I figured I'd try to get to 1000 and fill a couple batches, which is why I was checking. Thanks anyways. -Chad
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Would you be interested if I added to it so that you would receive 200 cards for 40$ shipped?
More to cull through? Why not . I'll buy your last two COMC cards in your port to boot .

Shoot my your PP addy and I'll send over payment later tonight.

Thanks!
-Chad
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Okay. Let me confirm what you are purchasing. 200 cards for the 40$ shipped?

paypal is mekren@willamette.edu
If that includes most of the original lot, plus 120 fillers, then yes!
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Would you be able to go to 45? I have to get a larger box and that's five more dollars to ship. Yep it includes everything that was already in the box plus 120 other cards.
That works. Shoot me your PP addy and I'll send payment over. Thanks! -Chad
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$45 Paypal sent. I bought your remaining COMC stock to boot . -Chad
Sent Sunday July 8th:
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Thanks man! Will send out tomorrow!
Early this AM:
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Hey,

I'm just writing to follow-up. Do you have a ship date or DC number?

Thanks,
-Chad
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Yeah it got shipped saturday. Sorry about that late shipment. I had to pick up the box and stuff and was fairly lazy about it. Should be ther soon though.
No problem. Just in a bit of a tigher timeframe as COMC is upping their processing fees in "a couple weeks", so I went to ship ahead of that. -Chad
The package arrives today in a small flat rate. Cards are either raw or in penny sleeves. No team bags, sandwiches or anything, with some newspaper stuffed along the edges of the box. Fortunately most cards are relatively unscathed, but I feel it's necessary to contact to seller hoping there's some realization of a mistake along the line. I wasn't really that worked up until I start getting replies.
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Yeah I get you. It should be there soon.
Packaged received. I have a few issues.

You received an extra $5 from me because you needed to ship in a larger box which would cost you "$5 Extra". The cards were mostly shipped raw in a small flat rate box, this is not $5 extra and definitely NOT how you ship cards.

Secondly, I could have sworn there were more GUs/Autos in the original lot offering of photos in your bucket less the "Bichettes and 1 or 2 where were already sold". Lastly, don't say "at $0.50 per card, you can easily double or triple your money on COMC" when in reality, these are mostly (with the exception of the 7 shipped GU or Auto cards) $0.50-$0.75 cards on COMC at best, which would net $0.20 to $0.45 after process/shipping/cashout fees. When I'm selling, I try to underpromise and overdeliver.

It's my fault for not asking for more information on the lot, especially considering your extremely limited selling FB on these forums....and I should have detected something was up when you were asking for an extra $5 after agreeing upon terms of the sale.

Long story short, the lot's fine as I didn't ask enough information and simply put, I received what was roughly described, and I'm the fool for buying it for WAY too much money. What I'm not cool with is the packaging and $5 price markup after the fact for additional "shipping" when in this case, there was not additional shipping. Can you help clarify this?

Thanks!
-Chad
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Bubble Mailer + Shipping USPS First Class Parcel is going to run you ~$2. USPS Small Flat Rate Box is $5.35. If you were planning on doing DC, the numbers are even closer together. Also, would you have shipped these cards RAW in a bubble mailer?

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I told you there were 7 GU's and Autos and that was it. It did cost me an extra 5 to ship approx because the beginning lot was just autos and GU and a few other things which would have been in a bubble mailer. The price difference between the mailer and the box is about 5.
When did you say "7" until now? This is what you told me (below)

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The autos and relics are most of the ones in my bucket with the exception of the two bichettes that already sold and one or two others. There is about 20 or so of my nicer rookie/insert/parallel cards and the rest are numbered. I know the lowest is out of /99 and 80% of them are the ones that are gold bordered or blue bordered from update, series 1, series 2 etc. numbered out of the year.

LMK with other questions.
I'm not upset, just looking for some clarification. I didn't say you said more or less and it's my fault for not clarifying. I'm saying that you decided to ask for more money because of $3 increased freight cost after originally agreeing to terms, so you could ship me a pile of base cards I don't need and not safely package anything. If I knew the additional cards were base, I wouldn't even want them. You knew the purpose of the cards were to send into COMC. Who sends base cards into COMC?
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And they were averaged at about .22 a card. not .50.
and your comments before....

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80 cards for 40$ is .50 a card. Double or Triple that easy on COMC. Thanks for your response!
Don't let stuffing some worthless base (and charging $5 for them) into a box scew your numbers. Of the 80 cards you refer to (the golds/blues/inserts etc.), those are the cards I'm saying are $0.50 to $0.75. The base is essentially worthless.
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okay so its about 3.35 difference. Its like 1 dollar your whining over. There were 7 relics/autos in my bucket at the time besides the two bichettes because thats all I had.
$3.35, let alone $5 is not equal to $1...you agreed to deliver the cards for $40, then came back with "Shipping costs more" and wanted another $5 to ship me base cards.
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Lol thanks for the business. I'm not gonna fight with you.
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3.35 is the difference in the shipping. So I asked for 5 to cover the 3 so YES it is ONE DOLLAR approx. (5-3.35) So don't come back saying that I didn't use that to cover shipping because I did. You can make 50 to 60 maybe more off those cards anyways. You'll be fine.
Do you realize that in your original thread, you had this?

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***NOT 75 CARDS ANYMORE. SENDING IN 150-200. SAME PRICE!!!!!!!!!!

I am sending in a bunch of cards to COMC but I just wanted to see if you guys were interested in them first. I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND TELL YOU EVERY CARD IN THE LOT. There are 150-200 cards including about 10 autos/relics and almost all the other cards are serial numbered. I am looking for 40$ shipped which is a hell of a deal. If you piece it out you will make at least double and probably closer to triple your money. Let me know if you are interested as I would like to ship tomorrow. Thanks.
Then you charged $5 more for less than what was advertised not to mention BS like "double or triple your money"...then you get all defensive when I ask a couple questions regarding the lot when I receive it as less than advertised in extremely poor packaging using flawed math. I'm sorry, but the packaging alone would merit a question. The few dollars is not the point. It's the way you misled, increased your price on the fly, poorly packaged the product, and then can't even admit to a mistake.
I've come to the realization that this is likely a young kid who doesn't quite have a handle on how to treat others, especially as a seller. My recommendation is to take heed when working with this particular seller. Considering the seller has relatively small feedback and has made over 30 (mostly selling) threads in the last week should have given me an idea.

-Chad

Also, sorry for the wall of text, I'm just very thorough .
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