2010 Topps Supreme Football 16 box case - hits/slot break

[vikingsordie]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Here is EXACTLY what BOCs listing says

8-COUNT CASE GUARANTEES
- 3 Autograph Relic Cards
- 2 Autograph Rookie Cards
- 1 Single Autograph Card
- 1 Multi Player Autograph
- 1 Autograph of the Above
- 8 Supreme Memorabilia Cards


Each master case consists of 2 8-box cases. So, if the above info is for one 8-box case, and the master is 2, then the hits would be doubled (32). I am not going off of what any other sites say. I buy from Blowout and use their product info.

Are we absolutely sure that we are interpreting the case break down correctly? I can see why there is some confusion. The sell sheet also says "One Low Numbered Autograph, Autograph Relic, or Relic Card in Every Pack! If you look at the checklist, every set is labeled either an autograph, autograph "relic", or "relic". There are no other sets from which there could be included other memorabilia "hits"! When the sell sheet says "8 Supreme Memorabilia Cards" are we sure that they are not including autographs in the term "memorabilia" and simply letting us know there are a total of 8 memorabilia cards per case? Also, the sell sheets emphasizes "one low-numbered autograph, etc..." After looking at the sell sheet and checklist....every hit is low numbered. I think the highest numbering on any hit is /25. This would make more sense in a 4 card pack as well....why would they do 4 cards, 2 of which being low-numbered hits /25 and less? Seems a little odd to me. One low-numbered hit per box makes sense for the price of $80.....but two hits /25 or less in one box of 4 cards for $80, just doesn't seem right. I agree with the others that this most likely is a one hit product like Ultimate....I may be wrong but after looking over everything carefully, this is the conclusion I have drawn.

[armyatc22]

yeah till i see an actual box with the number of hits im going to have to drop out of this one man...it sucks but what would we do if the number of hits are in half...

thanks anyways

[Aaron]

I am contacting Chris to see if he can get any clarification.

[oldgoldy97]

I was just thinking the same thing. It looks like this might be a Ultimate-type product with one hit per pack. Other sites kind of point towards this. If that is the case, I'll be dropping out because I'd rather just buy a pack myself.

[vikingsordie]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

I was just thinking the same thing. It looks like this might be a Ultimate-type product with one hit per pack. Other sites kind of point towards this. If that is the case, I'll be dropping out because I'd rather just buy a pack myself.

Yeah, I am pretty convinced this is a one-hit product as well. It would therefore not make much sense to do a group hit-break as a hit slot would probably only be a couple dollars less than it would be to buy a whole box. I am going to have to drop out of this for now as well, thanks for the time and effort though!

[Aaron]

I am in the process of getting clarification on the breakdown of the 8-box cases. At this point, deposits have been made, and they are normally deemed non-refundable. I have asked how it is handled if there is an error in the listing, and will keep everyone posted.

[FINS4LIFE]

Off another site:

This release is due in the week of 1/10. Each sealed box contains 1 pack of 4 cards each in a 100 card set (#`d to 599). >>> Each PACK/BOX contains ONE Memorabilia, Autograph, or Autograph Memorabilia

Meaning 1 hit per box. Sorry Aaron. I need to be removed out of this break. Will most likley buy my own box.

[Aaron]

I have contacted Chris to see about getting a refund of the deposit due to the error in the product listing. Will issue refunds once that is done.

[wcbraun]

Any word on this yet?

I have the most money, out of anyone, that is currently just sitting out there in thin air. I would prefer to use that money for something else.

[JasonH]

Originally Posted by wcbraun

Any word on this yet?

I have the most money, out of anyone, that is currently just sitting out there in thin air. I would prefer to use that money for something else.

I'm with you. I'd rather use the money to buy a box or two of something else.

[Aaron]

I just talked to Chris - according to him there are 16 "hits" per 8-box case. He said that this is from the Topps sell sheet

8-COUNT CASE GUARANTEES
- 3 Autograph Relic Cards
- 2 Autograph Rookie Cards
- 1 Single Autograph Card
- 1 Multi Player Autograph
- 1 Additional Card of any of the Above and
- 7 Supreme Memorabilia Cards

At this point, he does not believe that anything has changed.

Now, the funds received so far were used to make the deposit on the cases. If anyone that paid wants to drop out, I would only be able to offer a refund once someone else stepped in and paid.

Again, Chris has confirmed that there are 16 hits per 8-box case. That is 32 hits per master case.

[vikingsordie]

Originally Posted by Aaron

I just talked to Chris - according to him there are 16 "hits" per 8-box case. He said that this is from the Topps sell sheet

8-COUNT CASE GUARANTEES
- 3 Autograph Relic Cards
- 2 Autograph Rookie Cards
- 1 Single Autograph Card
- 1 Multi Player Autograph
- 1 Additional Card of any of the Above and
- 7 Supreme Memorabilia Cards

At this point, he does not believe that anything has changed.

Now, the funds received so far were used to make the deposit on the cases. If anyone that paid wants to drop out, I would only be able to offer a refund once someone else stepped in and paid.

Again, Chris has confirmed that there are 16 hits per 8-box case. That is 32 hits per master case.

I'm not convinced. Granted I am not a football card genious, but it doesn't take much research to understand that this will be a 1-hit product. No offense, but I think Chris might be wrong on this. I think your confirmation needs to come from Topps anyway, not Chris. I don't want to tie up money in this as it will most likely end up as a big mess. If I am wrong, I will be the first to apologize for the doubt, but for now please drop me out of this break.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by vikingsordie

I'm not convinced. Granted I am not a football card genious, but it doesn't take much research to understand that this will be a 1-hit product. No offense, but I think Chris might be wrong on this. I think your confirmation needs to come from Topps anyway, not Chris. I don't want to tie up money in this as it will most likely end up as a big mess. If I am wrong, I will be the first to apologize for the doubt, but for now please drop me out of this break.

I have sent a message to Topps and asked for their clarification.

[JasonH]

I have no problem staying in if Chris says this is what it is. The "8 - Count Case Guarentees" breakdown that is listed here is right on page one of the topps sell sheet as well. Unless you hear something different from Topps I have no problem continuing with the break. Thanks for the work in getting answers Aaron.

Originally Posted by Aaron

I just talked to Chris - according to him there are 16 "hits" per 8-box case. He said that this is from the Topps sell sheet

8-COUNT CASE GUARANTEES
- 3 Autograph Relic Cards
- 2 Autograph Rookie Cards
- 1 Single Autograph Card
- 1 Multi Player Autograph
- 1 Additional Card of any of the Above and
- 7 Supreme Memorabilia Cards

At this point, he does not believe that anything has changed.

Now, the funds received so far were used to make the deposit on the cases. If anyone that paid wants to drop out, I would only be able to offer a refund once someone else stepped in and paid.

Again, Chris has confirmed that there are 16 hits per 8-box case. That is 32 hits per master case.

[Aaron]

Trust me - I don't want anyone to get stiffed. I am doing everything that I can to find out exactly what the case breakdown is. Hopefully Topps responds to my questions quickly so this can be resolved one way or another.

[bigboysoffootball]

Don't sound good I sent them a tweet after work and got a reply back.

Topps Company
@toppscards Topps Company
@bbfan10 One hit per 1 pack/box.

[DizzyDSki]

Aaron - I'd like out of this one - I'm sure with the potential misunderstanding in hits and the fact that we're still well away from a release, I would hope/think getting a deposit back wouldn't be a problem.

I paid for one slot early just to help out in the reserve process...definitely don't want to "get in the penalty box" for just trying to help.

Please refund my payment of $37.40 when you have the chance and pull me out of all three of my slots. Hopefully we can try again sometime.

Thanks,
Dan

[PackAttack419]

def one hit per pack product, a la Ultimate Collection. i'm glad i pointed this out early, otherwise we would all have been in trouble come january..

[Aaron]

I have forwarded the tweet from Topps to Chris, and have requested a cancellation of the order due to the product change. Once I get it I will issue refunds to everyone that has paid. Sorry all.

[wcbraun]

Hear anything back yet?

I need to pay for my slots in the ITG Ultimate break so I would appreciate getting my $214.40 back as soon as possible.

[Aaron]

Chris told me that he has a called placed to Topps regarding this, and will refund the deposits once he speaks with them (and confirms the details). That is all that I have at this time.

[Aaron]

Refunds are being made .. please stand by .. my apologies to everyone for the change.

[JasonH]

Refund received thanks. What was the final word back from Topps?

[Aaron]

All payments have now been refunded.

Topps said that the product information has been changed. It was originally listed as 16 "hits" per 8-box case, then lowered to 1 per box.

My sincere apologies for this, and I hope that it won't keep anyone from any future breaks I try to run.

Aaron

[FINS4LIFE]

No apologies needed Aaron. It was the wording in it seemed confusing to everyone. And the price for it with only 4 cards per pack seemed off. I'm glad you were able to get the deposit back. Hopefully Topps will not make a mistake like that again. As for your future breaks. I wouldn't worry about that. I have no problem getting into your breaks.