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Okay - over the course of the evening I'm going to be breaking my case of 08 Bowman Chrome. I know the product is only so-so this year, but I'm a loyalist and I needed something to rip. I bought it with the 25% MS Live discount so I paid about $550 shipped which ends up being around $45 per box. I'm hoping I can get some value out of it at that price. Let's see......
Summary (Card Type : Expected : Received) Veteran / RC Refractors : 72 : 72 Veteran X-Fractors #/250 : 5.54 : 5 Veteran Blue Refractors #/150 : 3.72 : 3 Veteran Gold Refractors #/50 : 0.93 : 1 Veteran Orange Refractors #/25 : 0.47 : 1 Prospect Refractors #/500 : 5.40 : 5 Prospect X-Fractors #/250 : 2.73 : 3 Prospect Blue Refractors #/150 : 1.65 : 3 Prospect Gold Refractors #/50 : 0.55 : 0 Prospect Orange Refractors #/25: 0.28 : 0 Prospect Auto : 6.97 : 7 Prospect Auto Refractors #/500 : 2.45 : 4 Prospect Auto X-Fractors #/250 : 1.23 : 1 Prospect Auto Blue Refractors #/150 : 0.73 : 0 Plate : 0.16 : 1 Overall, I have to say I did pretty well. I pulled 2 of the nicer Autos (Lambo and Villalona) with some other mid-level Autos from the set as well (the Latos #/500 is pretty nice). Throw in the decent collation (I think I'll be close to a full base set and several prospect sets) of the base which yielded a ton of RCs and RC Refractors (18 of them) and I really liked the break more than BC of the past with it's really poor collation. Finally, the fact that I hit a Gold, Orange, and Plate means I really can't complain about too much here (and the fact that they are all decent players is a welcomed plus). I will be posting my set needs (we all know I need at least 1 Longoria base RC for my set since that's the one RC I did not pull) and hopefully some folks can help me out with finishing it off. Also, please let me know if you need anything for your sets, or if you want to trade for any parallels, etc. I'm open to most anything. Let me know. Thanks for reading! Josh
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. Last edited by parsetdx; 08-19-2008 at 10:06 PM. |
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Box #1
Red Veteran Refractors Kosuke Fukudome Asdrubal Cabrera Andruw Jones Green RC Refractors Justin Masterson Robinson Diaz Nick Blackburn Red Veteran X-Fractors #/250 Jeremy Guthrie Prospect Refractors #/500 Justin Cassel Prospect X-Fractor #/250 Dominic Brown Prospect Auto Base Ryan Kallish Comments Off to a pretty good start considering the product this year. Let's hope it keeps up and I beat the overall (tough) odds on the Prospect parallels. I liked pulling the 3 RC Refractors - wish Longoria and Fukudome were mixed in there, but at least I grabbed a Veteran Base Refractor of Fukudome. Final note - of a total of 30 Veteran / RC base, I pulled 8 RCs (about 25%). If I end up having to double up on base due to traditionally bad collation, then it may as well be on RCs!
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #2
Red Veteran Refractors Adam Jones Aaron Harang Randy Johnson Chone Figgins Gary Sheffield Fausto Carmona Red Veteran X-Fractors #/250 Hanley Ramirez Prospect Refractors #/500 Collin DeLome Prospect Blue Refractors #/150 Alfredo Silverio Prospect Auto Base Angel Villalona Redemption Comments Can't complain again - two decent prospect parallels and the Villalona hit for one of the best autos in the product. I'm not sure about the Blue Ref as it says Silverio was signed as a free agent back in 2003 (then why is he in this set?) which points to the fact that Topps was scraping for people to put in here. Along those same lines, I've always complained that they could cut their base set by about 20 to 30 players. This is my personal opinion, but I don't think Adam Jones and Randy Johnson belong in the same set - I would prefer to see a smaller set of higher quality.... and in fact I'd be willing to pay (slightly) more for a set designed with quality players in mind. And BTW, why does Topps keep insisting in putting Dontrelle Willis into their sets? TOPPS... HE HASN'T PITCHED FOR MONTHS!?!?!!!! I think they would have enough advanced notice to remove him from the set - LAME!
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #3
Red Veteran Refractors Adam LaRoche Oliver Perez Jered Weaver Jason Varitek Alfonso Soriano Green RC Refractors Jeff Niemann Prospect Auto Refractor #/500 Aaron Cunningham Comments Well - that was a tough one - not much more to say about that. I guess I was punished for pulling the Refractor Auto. Oh well, onto the next one.
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #4
Red Veteran Refractors Delmon Young Josh Beckett Jarrod Saltalamacchia Green RC Refractors David Purcey Callix Crabbe Jayson Nix Red Veteran Blue Refractors #/150 Travis Hafner Plate - Black #1/1 Chien-Ming Wang Prospect Auto Refractor #/500 Matt Latos Comments Another nice box - like the plate hit a lot, and the Latos is a gorgeous card with pefect centering. I always wish my Blues are people I collect, but they never are so I'm stuck with Hafner. 1/3 of the case is done, and I think it's looking pretty good to me.
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #5
Red Veteran Refractors Aaron Rowand Chase Utley (yay pc!) Mike Lowell Dan Uggla Green RC Refractors Denard Span Matt Tolbert Prospect Auto Base Mitch Boggs Comments Eh - another weak box. At least I pulled a PC Refractor. Of note, I'm compiling a nice little Red Sox Refractor lot for some Red Sox fan that wants to trade for it.
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #6
Red Veteran Refractors Rich Harden Carlos Pena Miguel Tejada (of course - following me again...) Josh Hamilton Orlando Cabrera Green RC Refractors Joey Votto Prospect Auto X-Fractor #/250 Mark Malancon Comments Another weak one, but the auto is nice. I'd prefer not to waste an X-Auto on somebody I don't know and who was drafted in the 9th round, but at least he's a Yankee. Halfway through and the strong start is starting to decline. Let's see if we can pick it back up in the second half. I'm still looking for my first Fukudome Green RC and same with Longoria. I've been pulling plenty of Green RC Refractors, so maybe those two guys will come in that form.
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #7
Red Veteran Refractors Dan Haren Chien-Ming Wang Corey Hart Eric Chavez Green RC Refractors Johnny Cueto Hiroki Kuroda Red Veteran Blue Refractors #/150 Mark Buehrle Prospect Refractors #/500 Joe Mahoney Prospect Auto Base Adrian Alaniz Comments Definitely a better box. Still not happy with an auto from a 6th round pick of the Nationals, but oh well. Maybe this is a sign things are looking up!
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #8
Red Veteran Refractors Chipper Jones Brian McCann Lance Berkman Adrian Gonzalez Raul Ibanez Green RC Refractors John Bowker Red Veteran Gold Refractors #/50 Ryan Braun Prospect X-Fractor #/250 Fabio Castillo Prospect Auto Base Chaz Roe Comments Okay - still not too bad. I'll take a Gold Ref of Braun. Overall the parallels seemed to be the HR hitters! :-) I feel like I've heard good things about Roe - anybody agree?
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #9
Red Veteran Refractors Nick Johnson Tim Hudson Matt Garza Jason Bay Jeremy Hermida Green RC Refractors Brad Harman Prospect Auto Base Andrew Lambo Redemption Comments I'm okay with the Auto, but the parallels were weak - same story. Onward and upward....
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #10
Red Veteran Refractors Adam Dunn Derek Jeter Justin Upton Vernon Wells Carlos Lee Tom Gorzelanny Red Veteran X-Fractors #/250 Jermaine Dye Red Veteran Blue Refractors #/150 Adrian Beltre Red Veteran Orange Refractors #/25 Russ Martin Prospect Refractors #/500 Jose Vallejo Prospect Blue Refractors #/150 Bryan Morris Prospect Auto Refractor #/500 Dustin Richardson Comments Well, that's about as hot of a box as you can hope for in 08 BC. I think that was a great one. I'm sure the Orange will do nicely - they are such good looking cards. Not sure about the Auto, but again a Red Sox player can't hurt. As for the Blue Prospect, it says he's a #1 pick of the Dodgers - anybody know anything about him? Overall - I'm pretty happy at this point - let's see if the last two boxes can beat this one out for best box (maybe a colored auto would help). Oh yeah, almost forgot - to top it off I got a Fukudome, Kobayashi, and Lu base RC in this box (among others) - still no Longoria - fingers crossed.
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. Last edited by parsetdx; 08-19-2008 at 09:47 PM. |
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Box #11
Red Veteran Refractors Robinson Cano Jim Edmonds Troy Glaus Green RC Refractors Kazuo Fukumori Justin Ruggiano (wrong Devil Ray!) Troy Patton Red Veteran X-Fractors #/250 Bobby Abreu Prospect Blue Refractors #/150 Justin Cassel Prospect Auto Refractor #/500 Danny Lehmann Comments That was a pretty decent box - certainly not the worst. I know nothing about the Auto prospect, but then again I know nothing about most of them that Topps selected. I hope this Cassel guy ends up being decent because I snagged a regular Ref #/500 earlier and now I got his Blue. Finally, still not a single Longoria Base RC, let alone the Refractor I was hoping for. All my hope lies in the last box. And oh yeah, I have pulled 4 Ref Autos (more than the odds), but only 1 XRef and 0 Blue - so I'm hoping this last one will be a Blue Brackman or better! :-)
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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Box #12
Red Veteran Refractors Brett Myers Aaron Hill Nick Markakis David DeJesus David Wright Green RC Refractors Hernan Iribarren Red Veteran X-Fractors #/250 Brian Bannister Prospect Refractors #/500 Duke Welker Prospect X-Fractor #/250 Andrew Romine Prospect Auto Base Jordan Zimmerman Comments Well - I was a little surprised to only find a base Auto and not at least an X-Fractor. Oh well. This box was okay in terms of parallels, and I'm not sure about Zimmerman - yet another Nationals prospect. I guess my only solace (as I watch my Phils come back from a 3-1 deficit tonight while I opened this case) is that the Nats really do suck and should be looking to their farm system pretty soon for some fresh talent. :-) I think they commit more errors than clean plays. But I digress. My final note on the box... I can't believe I didn't pull one single Longoria in the entire case - but triples and quads of some of the other Rookies. My full summary will be forthcoming....
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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mcguire - good to see you - I updated the Auto.
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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I posted a summary at the top of this thread - take a look and let me know if you need anything. Also please look for my set needs after I go through the base if you have a few base to trade. Thanks!
Josh
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Phillies PC: Schmidt, Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, Ashburn, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Madson, Pence + Prospects Other PC: Thome (Phils), Nolan Ryan, Lincecum. Also collect Baseball HOF Auto/GU/Inserts. |
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