Dead bay again

Bill22 · 10-11-2007, 07:00 PM

Anyone selling anything sure has been quiet the last few days other than a few sales a day, looks like thing's won't pick up until Topps Update releases.

MagnificentBastard · 10-11-2007, 08:14 PM

Sales on Ebay have been TERRIBLE the last 4 weeks. I thought with the start of football season, there would be a bump, but NOTHING. Not too mention there really are no "Hot" players, especially from class of 2006.

MaddoxBT · 10-11-2007, 08:20 PM

I was worried it was just me. I am shocked at how poor business has been since Sunday. Even Sunday, actually. It's been pretty bad for quite a while now. I've even dropped in Powerseller status, despite listing more items than I ever have before.

I am hoping Christmas is plush this year like it was last year. If it's like this though, I am probably going to have to get out completely.

Bill22 · 10-11-2007, 08:25 PM

After selling on eBay for 9 years getting through the lull periods use to be just pulling out old inserts or rookies. But with Donruss gone now the stock on good inserts has become memory lane.

tarzanlovesjane · 10-11-2007, 10:08 PM

Things are getting real bad, even set building items aren't selling right now, and usually you can move that type of inventory whenever you need some extra coin. Don't know man, I think it might be time to toss the towel in on trying to make money on this hobby, and just get back to picking up Red Sox and Packers cards for my mine and my wifes collections.

guru · 10-11-2007, 11:48 PM

I also have been selling for 9 years on ebay and I have to say that this is as bad as I have seen it...
I hate to say it, but a Cubs/Yankees or a Cubs/Red Sox World series would have been the best thing for baseball and cards sales... I mean, the D-Backs can't even sell their post season tickets to the game.
I am not ready to give up, mainly because I have too much inventory, but there has to be another angle to go at it during the slow times to boost sales.
I have resorted to puting up Rookie Lots of players who are left on teams in the playoffs.

iam4car3 · 10-12-2007, 12:08 AM

I've been on ebay for over 8 years and this is just my opinion. First the products are so watered down and there are just too many products to try to sell. Second there are too many people busting a case or two and some buying many more, paying with a credit card without the funds to pay the card off when the statement is received, so they get in a rush to recoup their investment so they can afford to buy more product hence the dumping begins or better put taking what ever price the market will pay. Don't think that I am putting them down because it is their right to buy and sell the way that they want too but it does make it hard for the ones that do this for a living. Myself I hardly ever bust a case I try to hold them to make 3 or 4 hundred dollars per case. The only 2 products I chose to bust in the last year I lost several hundred a case I just received bad cases. I truly believe the only way to keep the value of the cards up for a few months is if topps would join Upper Deck and not letting the dealers sell below the price that UD fixed for that product now this would hurt me but I don't mind since I don't do this for a living. Just my dimes worth.

MaddoxBT · 10-12-2007, 01:19 AM

I wish that cards sold more in China and Japan, and that PayPal protected us over there. That'd fix everything. Those people are bottomless pits when it comes to disposable income.

mwheeler27 · 10-12-2007, 01:27 AM

That's actually a great point. I just sold a 1994 SP Alex Rodriguez BGS 9 last Sunday for $705. I stated in my auction that I ship to Canada and U.S. only. So who wins it, someone with a Taiwan zip code but Hong Kong address.

I have no idea what to do on this one. I asked him to give me a U.S. address to ship to, and he did. Somewhere in Michigan. So, I'm mailing the card tomorrow to an unconfirmed address in Michigan. He has a 16 feedback score. I sure hope all pans out okay.

Heck, if I wanted this type of headache, I would have opened up the auction for international bidders. I may have gotten more for my card. Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESO:IT&ih=001

nucemcsw · 10-12-2007, 06:25 AM

I must completely agree. Along with my 10 yrs+ on Ebay, I do shows in VA,PA and NC. They have all steadily gone down hill. No reason but to go up...FB starting, BB playoffs, Chase to the Cup, NHL beginning...but each show is worse. Attendance and $ spent are weak. Singles and wax sales are both slow, with the exception to others dealers.

martyogelvie · 10-12-2007, 07:42 AM

From a dealer website (dallas cowboy football cards only) perspective vs an eBay seller;

I have noticed a lull in sales about mid way through the football season for the past 8 years. It seems to have started a bit early this year but my sales so far this year are up at least 10% from last year. Things are good here, no doom and gloom.

Also, I leverage my websites space for advertising and that helps off set the lull in card sales.

Are you guys collecting emails for sending out newsletters? It's probably the number 1 rule in internet marketing. I send out a newsletter email about once a month. You have to make sure your newsletter subscribers opt in to your newsletter. Don't bombard them with emails everyday and don't send them too many offers in your email. Just send 'em a quick note about the new things you have for sale and new things on the horizon.

I never fail to make at least a dozen sales just after I send out a newsletter. Blowout does the same thing.. you should to.

martyogelvie · 10-12-2007, 07:48 AM

The internet and ebay have taken away tons of show goers.

I used to seriously 'jones' about going to shows. I hit 2 or 3 a month and was Always anxious to get to the next show. I loved it, it was like an addiction. We moved to Georgia about 5 years ago and I have not been to a card SHOW since. 5 years and no shows is amazing because I couldn't stay away from them before.

Georgia is simply a bad location for show goers. There is JUST not a lot a of shows to visit here. Plus my wife is a flight attendant, gone all the time and I have a 7 year old and 3 year old twins. I don't go anywhere without my wife. So I have obsticles that keep me from going to shows but the internet has made show going unneccessary. I don't have to visit shows to get my card fix i can just go to ebay.

I hope to someday get back to the shows and possible bring my kids with me but not until they get a few years down the road.

solt0131 · 10-12-2007, 07:58 AM

As soon as Hockey released, I started busting and selling hockey instead of football and baseball, as I started to see a big down trend in football and baseball. I think you'll see success with Bowman Draft and Bowman Sterling along with Topps Update, so you may see some light there.

As far as football.....ugh. The one guy was right, there is a lull in the middle of the season and this is it. It's a tough market out there for football right now. Bowman and Bowman Chrome may help, but I know a lot of people took a beating from some of the recent high end products (Premier, Sterling, SP Threads).

At least with hockey, there really isn't a big flooding of the market that happens because of the limited number of products released. I think with football, people just get tired and bored of buying the same guys and opening the products and getting the same guys and same guys....it gets boring after a while.

Tim · 10-12-2007, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

That's actually a great point. I just sold a 1994 SP Alex Rodriguez BGS 9 last Sunday for $705. I stated in my auction that I ship to Canada and U.S. only. So who wins it, someone with a Taiwan zip code but Hong Kong address.

I have no idea what to do on this one. I asked him to give me a U.S. address to ship to, and he did. Somewhere in Michigan. So, I'm mailing the card tomorrow to an unconfirmed address in Michigan. He has a 16 feedback score. I sure hope all pans out okay.

Heck, if I wanted this type of headache, I would have opened up the auction for international bidders. I may have gotten more for my card. Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESO:IT&ih=001

Matt -- you are taking a huge risk here. I would not have done it. I truly hope it works out ok for you.

danimal · 10-12-2007, 09:14 AM

I couldn't agree more - my sales have been pathetic other than the 2 weeks following the Bowman Chrome release.

Case in point-

Check out this "]auction that ended last night. I sold that guy both the Maybin and the Gordon in May. I sold him the Maybin for $999 and the Gordon for $825. So now may definately be a time to buy and relist everything in late November early December. Turn a negative to a positive!

Dobber2330 · 10-12-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

That's actually a great point. I just sold a 1994 SP Alex Rodriguez BGS 9 last Sunday for $705. I stated in my auction that I ship to Canada and U.S. only. So who wins it, someone with a Taiwan zip code but Hong Kong address.

I have no idea what to do on this one. I asked him to give me a U.S. address to ship to, and he did. Somewhere in Michigan. So, I'm mailing the card tomorrow to an unconfirmed address in Michigan. He has a 16 feedback score. I sure hope all pans out okay.

Heck, if I wanted this type of headache, I would have opened up the auction for international bidders. I may have gotten more for my card. Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESO:IT&ih=001

Do yourself a favor and don't ship this one - if they pay via certified funds I will send wherever they want the card to go - bad idea to ship this to MI - may as well have sent it to Taiwan as you are still not protected

kirkoff · 10-12-2007, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Matt -- you are taking a huge risk here. I would not have done it. I truly hope it works out ok for you.

I agree, i would not have sent out the card.

jacobbigshow · 10-12-2007, 09:58 AM

I agree sales have gone way down. 4 weeks ago I would have more than $500 in sales a week, now it is down to about $200 and I am starting to list my auctions less and less since they are not selling. Can't wait till I get my case of 2007 finest football, that should bust my sales.

phil · 10-12-2007, 10:17 AM

traditionally this is the slowest time of year, and coupled with dearth of interesting set-builders MLB products (thanks MLBPA) = temporary slump. the market will bounce back when it has a reason to.

mwheeler27 · 10-12-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Matt -- you are taking a huge risk here. I would not have done it. I truly hope it works out ok for you.

You guys really got me scared now. I asked him to put the Michigan address in the Paypal payment. (I know it's not confirmed, but at least I have proof this is what he told me). I also shipped it USPS Express mail, and someone at that address will have to sign for it. He paid to have it done this way. He has bought some high end cards, (over $1000), and received positive feedback lately. I hope it works out. I won't ever take the risk again though. Thanks for all the input.

Matt

msteel · 10-12-2007, 01:35 PM

good luck!
Lets cross our fingers..but if he has other that went through ok maybe all will be good.

guru · 10-13-2007, 12:43 PM

There is only one way to turn this negative into a positive... That is, BUY!!! If you are prospecting on some young players like I do every year, this is be absolute best time to buy.

I am Buying Andrew McCutchen & Michael Bowden 2005 Rookies every day!
Let me know if any of you guys want to sell yours, I will save you some ebay fees.

Private message me if you do.
Thanks!

DadofTwins · 10-13-2007, 02:09 PM

I to have been very slow on EBay(User ID: Exposfan- 6467+) and like others have said Sunday night has been terrible for me.It Used to be a goldmine but it seems like I am getting earlier bids and then at the end, Nothing at 9pm CST

I also have gotten the Email from Ebay saying I may not have Powerseller status anymore, but I haven't been running to many auctions lately until this week (Rookie Threads and some baseball)

I will keep listing and I know that shortly something will start selling-

PS SHOWS SUCK here- Last show didnt have one Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell or Calvin Johnson RC of almost any kind available so if anyone can top that bad of a show good luck

jacobbigshow · 10-13-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

I to have been very slow on EBay(User ID: Exposfan- 6467+) and like others have said Sunday night has been terrible for me.It Used to be a goldmine but it seems like I am getting earlier bids and then at the end, Nothing at 9pm CST

I also have gotten the Email from Ebay saying I may not have Powerseller status anymore, but I haven't been running to many auctions lately until this week (Rookie Threads and some baseball)

I will keep listing and I know that shortly something will start selling-

PS SHOWS SUCK here- Last show didnt have one Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell or Calvin Johnson RC of almost any kind available so if anyone can top that bad of a show good luck

somehow my sells have been down but I was just promoted to power seller silver somehow.....it must be from the Barry Bonds lot I had sold a month back that sold for over $4,000 when I broke it up.

DadofTwins · 10-13-2007, 04:35 PM

GURU- Leave me some Mccutchens- DO you think the Sterling Refractor auto is a good Buy at $85 dlvd?

10-11-2007, 07:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bill22 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 5 Towns, NY Posts: 1,015	Dead bay again Anyone selling anything sure has been quiet the last few days other than a few sales a day, looks like thing's won't pick up until Topps Update releases.

10-12-2007, 07:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
martyogelvie Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 93 jmweb2010	From a dealer website (dallas cowboy football cards only) perspective vs an eBay seller; I have noticed a lull in sales about mid way through the football season for the past 8 years. It seems to have started a bit early this year but my sales so far this year are up at least 10% from last year. Things are good here, no doom and gloom. Also, I leverage my websites space for advertising and that helps off set the lull in card sales. Are you guys collecting emails for sending out newsletters? It's probably the number 1 rule in internet marketing. I send out a newsletter email about once a month. You have to make sure your newsletter subscribers opt in to your newsletter. Don't bombard them with emails everyday and don't send them too many offers in your email. Just send 'em a quick note about the new things you have for sale and new things on the horizon. I never fail to make at least a dozen sales just after I send out a newsletter. Blowout does the same thing.. you should to. __________________ martyOgelvie always buying Dallas Cowboy football cards Send me a PM if your selling.

10-12-2007, 07:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
martyogelvie Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 93 jmweb2010	The internet and ebay have taken away tons of show goers. I used to seriously 'jones' about going to shows. I hit 2 or 3 a month and was Always anxious to get to the next show. I loved it, it was like an addiction. We moved to Georgia about 5 years ago and I have not been to a card SHOW since. 5 years and no shows is amazing because I couldn't stay away from them before. Georgia is simply a bad location for show goers. There is JUST not a lot a of shows to visit here. Plus my wife is a flight attendant, gone all the time and I have a 7 year old and 3 year old twins. I don't go anywhere without my wife. So I have obsticles that keep me from going to shows but the internet has made show going unneccessary. I don't have to visit shows to get my card fix i can just go to ebay. I hope to someday get back to the shows and possible bring my kids with me but not until they get a few years down the road. __________________ martyOgelvie always buying Dallas Cowboy football cards Send me a PM if your selling.

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10-11-2007, 08:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
MagnificentBastard Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 63	Sales on Ebay have been TERRIBLE the last 4 weeks. I thought with the start of football season, there would be a bump, but NOTHING. Not too mention there really are no "Hot" players, especially from class of 2006.

10-11-2007, 08:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
MaddoxBT Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 182	I was worried it was just me. I am shocked at how poor business has been since Sunday. Even Sunday, actually. It's been pretty bad for quite a while now. I've even dropped in Powerseller status, despite listing more items than I ever have before. I am hoping Christmas is plush this year like it was last year. If it's like this though, I am probably going to have to get out completely.

10-11-2007, 08:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bill22 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 5 Towns, NY Posts: 1,015	After selling on eBay for 9 years getting through the lull periods use to be just pulling out old inserts or rookies. But with Donruss gone now the stock on good inserts has become memory lane.

10-11-2007, 10:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
tarzanlovesjane Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maine Posts: 575	Things are getting real bad, even set building items aren't selling right now, and usually you can move that type of inventory whenever you need some extra coin. Don't know man, I think it might be time to toss the towel in on trying to make money on this hobby, and just get back to picking up Red Sox and Packers cards for my mine and my wifes collections.

10-11-2007, 11:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
guru Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central, KY Posts: 13,973 $guru$ guru	I also have been selling for 9 years on ebay and I have to say that this is as bad as I have seen it... I hate to say it, but a Cubs/Yankees or a Cubs/Red Sox World series would have been the best thing for baseball and cards sales... I mean, the D-Backs can't even sell their post season tickets to the game. I am not ready to give up, mainly because I have too much inventory, but there has to be another angle to go at it during the slow times to boost sales. I have resorted to puting up Rookie Lots of players who are left on teams in the playoffs.

10-12-2007, 12:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
iam4car3 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Leitchfield, KY. Posts: 277 iam4car3	I've been on ebay for over 8 years and this is just my opinion. First the products are so watered down and there are just too many products to try to sell. Second there are too many people busting a case or two and some buying many more, paying with a credit card without the funds to pay the card off when the statement is received, so they get in a rush to recoup their investment so they can afford to buy more product hence the dumping begins or better put taking what ever price the market will pay. Don't think that I am putting them down because it is their right to buy and sell the way that they want too but it does make it hard for the ones that do this for a living. Myself I hardly ever bust a case I try to hold them to make 3 or 4 hundred dollars per case. The only 2 products I chose to bust in the last year I lost several hundred a case I just received bad cases. I truly believe the only way to keep the value of the cards up for a few months is if topps would join Upper Deck and not letting the dealers sell below the price that UD fixed for that product now this would hurt me but I don't mind since I don't do this for a living. Just my dimes worth.

10-12-2007, 01:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
MaddoxBT Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 182	I wish that cards sold more in China and Japan, and that PayPal protected us over there. That'd fix everything. Those people are bottomless pits when it comes to disposable income.

10-12-2007, 01:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
mwheeler27 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorthEast Kansas Posts: 11,408 mwheeler27	That's actually a great point. I just sold a 1994 SP Alex Rodriguez BGS 9 last Sunday for $705. I stated in my auction that I ship to Canada and U.S. only. So who wins it, someone with a Taiwan zip code but Hong Kong address. I have no idea what to do on this one. I asked him to give me a U.S. address to ship to, and he did. Somewhere in Michigan. So, I'm mailing the card tomorrow to an unconfirmed address in Michigan. He has a 16 feedback score. I sure hope all pans out okay. Heck, if I wanted this type of headache, I would have opened up the auction for international bidders. I may have gotten more for my card. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESO:IT&ih=001

10-12-2007, 06:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
nucemcsw Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: De Pere, WI Posts: 40 nuc_emc_sw	I must completely agree. Along with my 10 yrs+ on Ebay, I do shows in VA,PA and NC. They have all steadily gone down hill. No reason but to go up...FB starting, BB playoffs, Chase to the Cup, NHL beginning...but each show is worse. Attendance and $ spent are weak. Singles and wax sales are both slow, with the exception to others dealers.

10-12-2007, 07:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
solt0131 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,835 PghSportsCards	As soon as Hockey released, I started busting and selling hockey instead of football and baseball, as I started to see a big down trend in football and baseball. I think you'll see success with Bowman Draft and Bowman Sterling along with Topps Update, so you may see some light there. As far as football.....ugh. The one guy was right, there is a lull in the middle of the season and this is it. It's a tough market out there for football right now. Bowman and Bowman Chrome may help, but I know a lot of people took a beating from some of the recent high end products (Premier, Sterling, SP Threads). At least with hockey, there really isn't a big flooding of the market that happens because of the limited number of products released. I think with football, people just get tired and bored of buying the same guys and opening the products and getting the same guys and same guys....it gets boring after a while.

10-12-2007, 09:14 AM	#15 (permalink)
danimal Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Martinez, GA Posts: 2,493 adona72001 danielbaker1	I couldn't agree more - my sales have been pathetic other than the 2 weeks following the Bowman Chrome release. Case in point- Check out this "]auction that ended last night. I sold that guy both the Maybin and the Gordon in May. I sold him the Maybin for $999 and the Gordon for $825. So now may definately be a time to buy and relist everything in late November early December. Turn a negative to a positive!

10-12-2007, 09:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
jacobbigshow Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 2,930 jacobbigshow Jacobbigshow	I agree sales have gone way down. 4 weeks ago I would have more than $500 in sales a week, now it is down to about $200 and I am starting to list my auctions less and less since they are not selling. Can't wait till I get my case of 2007 finest football, that should bust my sales.

10-12-2007, 10:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,621	traditionally this is the slowest time of year, and coupled with dearth of interesting set-builders MLB products (thanks MLBPA) = temporary slump. the market will bounce back when it has a reason to.

10-12-2007, 01:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
msteel Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 52	good luck! Lets cross our fingers..but if he has other that went through ok maybe all will be good.

10-13-2007, 12:43 PM	#22 (permalink)
guru Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central, KY Posts: 13,973 $guru$ guru	There is only one way to turn this negative into a positive... That is, BUY!!! If you are prospecting on some young players like I do every year, this is be absolute best time to buy. I am Buying Andrew McCutchen & Michael Bowden 2005 Rookies every day! Let me know if any of you guys want to sell yours, I will save you some ebay fees. Private message me if you do. Thanks!

10-13-2007, 02:09 PM	#23 (permalink)
DadofTwins Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hartland Wi Posts: 1,750 Exposfan Exposfan1998	I to have been very slow on EBay(User ID: Exposfan- 6467+) and like others have said Sunday night has been terrible for me.It Used to be a goldmine but it seems like I am getting earlier bids and then at the end, Nothing at 9pm CST I also have gotten the Email from Ebay saying I may not have Powerseller status anymore, but I haven't been running to many auctions lately until this week (Rookie Threads and some baseball) I will keep listing and I know that shortly something will start selling- PS SHOWS SUCK here- Last show didnt have one Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell or Calvin Johnson RC of almost any kind available so if anyone can top that bad of a show good luck

10-13-2007, 04:35 PM	#25 (permalink)
DadofTwins Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hartland Wi Posts: 1,750 Exposfan Exposfan1998	GURU- Leave me some Mccutchens- DO you think the Sterling Refractor auto is a good Buy at $85 dlvd?