Questions about Allen and Ginter

kl4life2 · 07-25-2011, 10:15 AM

Hey everyone, I went to Wal-Mart and picked up 11 packs of Allen and Ginter and I have no clue if I have a couple of sp cards or not.

I have two minis of Lance Berkman and Jeremy Jeffress that are Bazooka Backs, but not numbered -- I checked the wrapper and it said 1:380 -- I doubt I beat the odds this much -- but was wondering if these are sp's?

Also I have two Adam Laroche cards with some weird black arching on each corner. Don't know what that's all about.

I did get a cool Todd Helton relic framed. I thought for a non-pack searcher I might've done well for $30.

Thanks for any help you can give.

XL5 · 07-25-2011, 10:19 AM

Bazooka backs are red and have hand written numbers. Allen and Ginter backs have the quaker guy on the back, are blue, and don't have hand written numbers. You probably got A&G backs. In order of rareness, minis go Regular -> A&G ->Black Border ->No Number ->Bazooka. For the regulars, A&G, and Black Border, cards numbered #301 - #350 are SPs. In my experience you get about equal numbers of A&G backs and regular minis.

This is an A&G back:

This is a bazooka back:

The LaRoche cards are this year's code cards.

Coug46n2 · 07-25-2011, 10:32 AM

XL5... great explanation. It's nice to see great help instead of grief about 'look it up on the web for yourself" comments.

kl4life2 · 07-25-2011, 10:59 AM

I do thank you for all the help -- I am happy with what I received in my packs -- I guess I need to look closer I don't have Bazooka backs haha -- oh well -- I did get a couple black borders and I think the relic cards are awesome. Thanks for your help!

gatordeve86 · 07-25-2011, 11:09 AM

not to hijack the thread but what is the difference between these 2?

zep · 07-25-2011, 11:13 AM

The one's with the symbols on the corner are the codebreaker cards. I originally heard there were 170 different ones as a parallel to the base set but was looking at sales history on Ebay last night and saw that brentandbecca sold a full set of 350 code cards so I guess they parallel the whole set.

gatordeve86 · 07-25-2011, 11:15 AM

thanks for the info

gatordeve86 · 07-25-2011, 11:31 AM

i also have one with the things in the corner but they are gold
is that another variation?
the two others i have are both black

lemur01 · 07-25-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gatordeve86

i also have one with the things in the corner but they are gold
is that another variation?
the two others i have are both black

If your asking whether or not certain colors are more rare than others, than no.

gatordeve86 · 07-25-2011, 11:39 AM

i wasnt sure if they were all black or if they were team colored

lemur01 · 07-25-2011, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatordeve86

i wasnt sure if they were all black or if they were team colored

They all fit together like some sort of puzzle I think.

07-25-2011, 10:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
kl4life2 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glendale, AZ from Ohio Posts: 719 kl4life2 kl4life2	Questions about Allen and Ginter Hey everyone, I went to Wal-Mart and picked up 11 packs of Allen and Ginter and I have no clue if I have a couple of sp cards or not. I have two minis of Lance Berkman and Jeremy Jeffress that are Bazooka Backs, but not numbered -- I checked the wrapper and it said 1:380 -- I doubt I beat the odds this much -- but was wondering if these are sp's? Also I have two Adam Laroche cards with some weird black arching on each corner. Don't know what that's all about. I did get a cool Todd Helton relic framed. I thought for a non-pack searcher I might've done well for $30. Thanks for any help you can give.

07-25-2011, 10:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
XL5 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,789 xl5	Bazooka backs are red and have hand written numbers. Allen and Ginter backs have the quaker guy on the back, are blue, and don't have hand written numbers. You probably got A&G backs. In order of rareness, minis go Regular -> A&G ->Black Border ->No Number ->Bazooka. For the regulars, A&G, and Black Border, cards numbered #301 - #350 are SPs. In my experience you get about equal numbers of A&G backs and regular minis. This is an A&G back: This is a bazooka back: The LaRoche cards are this year's code cards. __________________ Want: 2010 Allen & Ginter N43 relics of Pujols, Markakis, Howard. Want: Konerko high-end, looking for Konerko 2012 Topps S1 #/1 and Mini Platinum (silver) #/5 My buckets: https://sites.google.com/site/xl5inventory/ My shipping: DC and mailed next business day. My LCSs: Elite Sports Cards, Chicago; Tim's Baseball Card Shop, Chicago Last edited by XL5; 07-25-2011 at 10:22 AM.

07-25-2011, 10:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Coug46n2 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Washington State Posts: 3,029 Coug46n2 Coug46n2	XL5... great explanation. It's nice to see great help instead of grief about 'look it up on the web for yourself" comments. __________________ Current needs: Kirby Puckett Relics, Game Used, Patches, Inserts, & Parallels. Also looking for BGS 9.5 Topps RCs from 1980-current.

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gatordeve86 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central PA Posts: 3,177 gatordeve	not to hijack the thread but what is the difference between these 2? Attached Thumbnails

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07-25-2011, 10:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
kl4life2 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glendale, AZ from Ohio Posts: 719 kl4life2 kl4life2	I do thank you for all the help -- I am happy with what I received in my packs -- I guess I need to look closer I don't have Bazooka backs haha -- oh well -- I did get a couple black borders and I think the relic cards are awesome. Thanks for your help!

07-25-2011, 11:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
zep Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 478 mazep33	The one's with the symbols on the corner are the codebreaker cards. I originally heard there were 170 different ones as a parallel to the base set but was looking at sales history on Ebay last night and saw that brentandbecca sold a full set of 350 code cards so I guess they parallel the whole set.

07-25-2011, 11:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
gatordeve86 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central PA Posts: 3,177 gatordeve	thanks for the info

07-25-2011, 11:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
gatordeve86 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central PA Posts: 3,177 gatordeve	i also have one with the things in the corner but they are gold is that another variation? the two others i have are both black

07-25-2011, 11:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
gatordeve86 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central PA Posts: 3,177 gatordeve	i wasnt sure if they were all black or if they were team colored