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Old 07-28-2011, 11:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I apologize if this has been posted before and that I'm linking to a Blog in another forum but this article shows just how bad Topps pulled a fast one on us with Platinum

*BREAKING NEWS* 2011 Bowman Platinum Baseball- Where did everything go? Checklist Omissions Abound…. Atlanta Sports Cards Blog
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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breaking news !!!!!!!!!!!!! too funny. like it's some world changing event.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yikes, it looks pretty awful when they show the list of everything that was omitted. The prospect auto list isn't too bad but the patch/auto list was just destroyed.
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I still can't believe they can pull this crap. It is like false advertising isn't it??
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Yikes, it looks pretty awful when they show the list of everything that was omitted. The prospect auto list isn't too bad but the patch/auto list was just destroyed.
They took out some of the best cards, Strasburg/Harper and the Harper and 7 others.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That list isn't completly accurate, but for the most part it is. I'm afraid of what Topps Chrome is going to look like if they pulled this with Platinum. I bet half the autos are different when the product is released. This is a perfect example why you should never pre-order anything from Topps.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Is this 100% correct?


I swear I've seen someone pull the heyward/freeman dual. I could be trippin'

oh well, that's horrible if all those were pulled. I knew about the Belt though...didn't realize all the others
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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As much as I hate this, I can almost understand why this happens.

Every product has a production timeline. Conceptualizing, Marketing, Design, Production, Getting the autos signed, packing out, and distribution. If anything goes wrong during this process, it could be bad on so many levels.

You can tell this product had some production issues. The Trevor Bell Redemption is a Redemption card with a sticker of his name placed on it. They didn't have enough time to just print out new Redemption cards?

With that said, I had a great break. I'll probably lose money in the long run, but I like the look of the cards. The relics are crap. But I did pull a nice Jake McGee patch auto and my dual auto relic is pretty nice too. Plus, I got 2 Harper Autos from a master case.

Yeah, it sucks...but that's the nature of the beast. If you don't like it, you should probably stop buying boxes/cases of anything until after the fact. Bad for people trying to rip and flip, but great for collectors.
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Not sure how accurate their list is as I pulled a Starlin Castro Relic auto they say doesn't exist. It's shorter printed to an evil /666 though, perhaps they just didn't pull one, but it's in the product as evidence by my photo here

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I still can't believe they can pull this crap. It is like false advertising isn't it??
Not a lawyer, but i would think this is. Unless their "Not all cards shown will be released in final product" disclaimer is rock solid.

I smell class action lawsuit. That is a TON of cards missing - some no doubt used to advertise the product.
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They also say Domingo Santana Autos don't exist but I've seen some. But I'm SOOO glad I ended up canceling my order for a 6 box case
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if the hexagraph book of harper doesn't exist..... gonna piss a lot of people off
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Not a lawyer, but i would think this is. Unless their "Not all cards shown will be released in final product" disclaimer is rock solid.

I smell class action lawsuit. That is a TON of cards missing - some no doubt used to advertise the product.

They put a "subject to change" disclaimer on the sell sheet.
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maybe they'll offer wrapper redemptions to compensate for their lies
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I still can't believe they can pull this crap. It is like false advertising isn't it??

Go to the sell sheet
http://www.blowoutcards.com/images/s...platinumBB.pdf

Engarge it to 400% and read the bottom lines on the 3rd page.....

Nuff Said
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Not a lawyer, but i would think this is. Unless their "Not all cards shown will be released in final product" disclaimer is rock solid.

I smell class action lawsuit. That is a TON of cards missing - some no doubt used to advertise the product.
You can't get any clearer than the disclaimer on the pre-release checklist:
"Preliminary Checklist
Subject to Change"

Any suit would have to prove intentional and substantial attempts to deceive the customer.

And here is the disclaimer from the sell sheet:


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†Although these players have agreed to provide these cards to Topps, we cannot guarantee that all autographs and/or relics will be received in time for inclusion in this product. In the event of unavailability, Topps reserves the right to substitute an alternative autograph.
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THIS LIST IS NOT ACCURATE, just because we didn't see the harper hexograph (and other cards) doesn't mean it does not exist!!!!!
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You can't get any clearer than the disclaimer on the pre-release checklist:
"Preliminary Checklist
Subject to Change"

Any suit would have to prove intentional and substantial attempts to deceive the customer.

And here is the disclaimer from the sell sheet:
Does anyone know if the missing cards were ever used to advertise the product? If so, then it's a whole different legal ballgame.

FYI - I couldn't care less about this product, just like the legal debate

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2011 Bowman Platinum Dual Auto Relic
DARC-BP Madison Bumgarner/Buster Posey



WOW I would have given up some serious $ for this. Stupid Topps.
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THIS LIST IS NOT ACCURATE, just because we didn't see the harper hexograph (and other cards) doesn't mean it does not exist!!!!!
It still paints a pretty effin picture of how Topps pulled one over.
They took out a ton in this product and switched with major league scrubs. Not prospect scrub that could pan out, but major league scrubs.
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cmon guys GET OVA IT!!!!!...............not the first time its happened and it wont be the last......tired of reading everyone b#&ching about the checklist.......dont buy any!!!
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They did the same thing with Pro Debut. The preliminary checklist was much more solid than what they actually released.
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It still paints a pretty effin picture of how Topps pulled one over.
They took out a ton in this product and switched with major league scrubs. Not prospect scrub that could pan out, but major league scrubs.
that is true with the scrubs but just saying we don't know whether or not most of these cards exist or not, and we may never know
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cmon guys GET OVA IT!!!!!...............not the first time its happened and it wont be the last......tired of reading everyone b#&ching about the checklist.......dont buy any!!!
You must not have pre-ordered any of this did you?
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Just curious....It looks like it's $100/box now on BO........What are some of the prices you guys paid?
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