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Old 08-17-2011, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Marquee pushed to 9/14....bummer

What do you think this says about the product?
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What do you think this says about the product?
Where did you hear this? Any links? If this is true this spells even more doom than the original push back date of the 31st. Guess they couldn't get the presses printing fast enough for the additions to the checklist to get it out by the 31st. Now I'm really glad I rolled my deposits on 2 12 box cases over to DPP instead.
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I can confirm this it is already up my distributors page as the 14th.
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I can confirm this it is already up my distributors page as the 14th.
Yikes!!! I think it's safe to say that all the days of pre ordering and getting in on the ground floor for profits are over. Looks like Topps has adjusted to this. I think it's safe to say that pre hyped and pre ordered products will continually be pushed back to make sure there is enough to feed the masses and rake in profit, while shortchanging the buyer. Look at the history this year. Tribute and Gypsy didn't get it's balls licked by everyone like Platinum, Bowman, and Marquee. They ended up being the strongest Baseball products of the year so far. I could be wrong and Marquee could be a smash, but I have a feeling I'm right.

Looks like the move is to pre order the stuff no one talks about. More than likely you'll be okay there. I would get nervous about DPP now, but it would be really hard to screw up a consistent quality product like that, but I wouldn't put it past them.

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What do you think this says about the product?
That instead of a sweet Hank Aaron On-Card Auto you'll probably be getting an Esmil Rogers sticker auto.
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Haha....yeah...I'm in for 2 cases...so a few Esmil Rogers are in order.
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What do you think this says about the product?
Not much. Topps has been pushing back release dates for years.
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Topps can do whatever they want, people continue to pre-order their products, they make no promises to print run or guarantees for what will be in the product so they push out a sweet sell sheet, wait for the hype, push it back, edit checklist and crank the presses. It might be a great way to pull revenue but how long can they do it before people start bailing on their product, as of right now they don't seem to be having problems because this is what the 3rd product this year this has happened?
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topps has been a little ridiculous with the push-backs this year, im getting tired of it
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Not much. Topps has been pushing back release dates for years.
Pushing release dates has been common but have the overall changes to the product been as bad before as this year?
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Asked if they had a reason and got this back:

"No redemptions, they are waiting for all the autographs to come in"

Hope that's true, if so it's a good thing.
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So far products that have been pushed back this year have turned out to be bad. Push back the date so more people can pre-order in anticipation of a promising new product and then switch the checklist at the last moment to save money for themselves. Or maybe they are pushing it back to give the players more time to sign so that there will be less redemption cards. Fat chance.

What is the reasoning for changing a great checklist into a horrible checklist at the last moment? Do they save money by including more weaker players? I thought Topps had a contract for all these players so wouldn't it cost the same for them to have good players vs. weak players? I just don't understand why they do this.
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Pushing release dates has been common but have the overall changes to the product been as bad before as this year?
Bait and switch is definitely not new. This year, at least recently, has seemed to be more extreme.
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Trying to scramble for more utility pinch hitters to add to the museum collection checklist.

This probably also means that triple threads which is in the middle of september will get pushed back.
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Wow this sucks... yeah I think I may save my money for something else, good thing football is getting hot...
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I wish there was something that could put pressure on Topps. These are baseball cards, not 787's.
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Triple Threads = Sept 28th.
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Triple Threads = Sept 28th.
Crap i just saw it update on BO. Out of all the products i could chosen i went with TTT

Has there ever been a product delay that resulted in a better product??????????????
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If they switch the checklist like they did on Platinum, I will be done with new Topps products for a while. Lets hope they dont pull a "Platinum". Keep your fingers crossed.
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so Topps chrome is being released before Marquee now? Dammit Topps!

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very upset by this news! i was really looking forward to this product and now have to wait a month for it to drop, which means more time for me to waste my money on bowman and platinum
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Just wait until Topps has competition again. That is what it will take for them to stop jacking around their customers all the time.
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Not much. Topps has been pushing back release dates for years.
This is fact. All companies have always had delays but it's like everything else in the world now. Mainstream media magnify all problems whether it be world news or our hobby. 6 years ago when they put out 1 million products in a year (before the regulations put forth by the licensing agreements) there were delays all the time but we just didn't notice or didn't care. But we also didn't have forums like we have today where everyone is on top of everything. Bait and switch same thing its been going on since the days of retail sales began just magnified now.

But also the whole "no redemptions" thing is bs, i bet someone won't sign. None of these products are perfect anymore. There's going to be something wrong someone will get a redemption for some reason or another.

But overall I think we are just over reacting to something that has always gone on, we are just a more "educated" group of collectors now due to mass media!

Sorry for the rant just tired of all the whining going on around here lately.
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The Marlins just called up some more bench fodder from AAA so they needed time to cut up their jerseys to make patch autos (same joke in 2 diff threads, I know)
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Where did you hear this? Any links? If this is true this spells even more doom than the original push back date of the 31st. Guess they couldn't get the presses printing fast enough for the additions to the checklist to get it out by the 31st. Now I'm really glad I rolled my deposits on 2 12 box cases over to DPP instead.
Wait, you can rollover your deposit? I was under the impression you couldnt and you just lost the money if you didn't pay.

What are the rules with rolling over? Do you have to buy a case if you put a deposit on a case...do the products have to be similar in price...Does anybody know?
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