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Old 09-05-2011, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Billy Hamilton 100 Steals This Season, Is he for real??

In addition, to the stolen bases, he has been hitting for better average lately. What are your thoughts on this guy? Can he keep it up as he moves up the ladder to the bigs?

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In addition, to the stolen bases, the has been hitting for better average lately. What are your thoughts on this guy? Can he keep it up as he moves up the ladder to the bigs?
The tools are certainly there and the speed is legit but he had sort of a down year hitting wise. I know he was a couple of top 100 lists so it will be interesting to see if he retains his "prospect status".
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his prospect status is only gonna go up with him
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never heard of him before, but man is that impressive!
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The tools are certainly there and the speed is legit but he had sort of a down year hitting wise. I know he was a couple of top 100 lists so it will be interesting to see if he retains his "prospect status".
133 strikeouts for a non-power guy scares me.
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133 strikeouts for a non-power guy scares me.
Agreed, like I said he had a "down year" hitting wise and I'm not sure how much it's going to knock his status. Evaluating performance like that is funny because if a player does well or meets the expectation levels of their performance it's not a big deal because it was "expected" of them or "they should be doing that". However, if a prospect struggles and doesn't put it together it counts for more than when they are performing well. I think the reality is, it's tough to base projection solely on performance & numbers in the minor leagues because the competition can be very inconsistent.
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I'd like to see him, Ellsbury, Gardner, Crawford, EY, Coco Crisp, Gose, Bourn, and Kemp in a 60 yd dash race. Who would win? We could throw Adrian Gonzalez in the mix, just to help us appreciate the others.
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I'd like to see him, Ellsbury, Gardner, Crawford, EY, Coco Crisp, Gose, Bourn, and Kemp in a 60 yd dash race. Who would win? We could throw Adrian Gonzalez in the mix, just to help us appreciate the others.
I'm pretty sure Mike Trout is right up there as well. My guess is that it's closer between Hamilton & Trout than the other guys.
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I'm pretty sure Mike Trout is right up there as well. My guess is that it's closer between Hamilton & Trout than the other guys.
I thought of him too, actually, but haven't seen enough of him running to know just how fast he is. We could also include Peter Bourjous, or however you spell his name?
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What is his D like At SS? or does he project to 2B or even CF
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I'd like to see him, Ellsbury, Gardner, Crawford, EY, Coco Crisp, Gose, Bourn, and Kemp in a 60 yd dash race. Who would win? We could throw Adrian Gonzalez in the mix, just to help us appreciate the others.
how about dee gordon and drew stubbs?

and as a Reds fan, i hope he is for real!
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rajai davis, jason bourgeois, jose reyes and emelio bonifacio as well
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We think he's terrific...

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He and Drew Stubbs can be the Reds stolen base guys and 100+ strike out guys. Should be great to watch.

Seriously, the guy is in single A. He isn't ready for the majors for at least 2-3 years, if ever. But the Red GM likes him.
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He and Drew Stubbs can be the Reds stolen base guys and 100+ strike out guys. Should be great to watch.

Seriously, the guy is in single A. He isn't ready for the majors for at least 2-3 years, if ever. But the Red GM likes him.
ugh yeah i know. stubbs still has some growing to do. he's great in the field, he's great on base, but....
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Sounds like a great candidate to bat leadoff for the Detroit Tigers.

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My guess is that he checks in somewhere between the #50-60 prospect in all of baseball right now. More disappointing than the Striekouts is the drop in Slugging Percentage. Last season he had a .456 SLG with 25 XBH's in 69 Games. He played nearly double the amount of games this season (135) and had only 5 more XBH's and a .360 SLG. He was 20 years Old all season and had a far better second half offensively than the first half, so he definitely has time to improve and as we saw from the list above, possible Vince Coleman type potential, which the Reds would be thrilled with no doubt.
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My guess is that he checks in somewhere between the #50-60 prospect in all of baseball right now. More disappointing than the Striekouts is the drop in Slugging Percentage. Last season he had a .456 SLG with 25 XBH's in 69 Games. He played nearly double the amount of games this season (135) and had only 5 more XBH's and a .360 SLG. He was 20 years Old all season and had a far better second half offensively than the first half, so he definitely has time to improve and as we saw from the list above, possible Vince Coleman type potential, which the Reds would be thrilled with no doubt.
Yeah, as a Reds fan, I don't care about the extra base hits at all. Just about the K's. If his on base percentage is around .400 I will be happy because with his speed, he can turn a single into a double in one extra pitch.
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He was recently converted to a switch hitter. His left-handed numbers struggled but I'm sure with time they will get better. He did improve his offensive stats towards the end of the year.
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