2007 Bowman Sterling Baseball - Am I missing something, or will this be AWESOME!!?? - Page 2

Cubfan86 · 11-24-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

Final results of the poll from the BMBs regarding which product people are most looking forward to and spending the most money on:

TriStar Prospects Plus - 9 Votes (5% )
Donruss Elite Extra Edition - 19 Votes (12%)
Bowman Sterling - 14 Votes (8%)
Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects - 81 Votes (51%)
None of the above - 35 Votes (22%)

Why did you do a none of the above? If they do not vote for one fo the products just move along then.
It does not make sense for a vote like this.

yazevans · 11-24-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubfan86

Why did you do a none of the above? If they do not vote for one fo the products just move along then.
It does not make sense for a vote like this.

You're talking about BMB members though, "just move along" is not in a lot of their vocabularies. There seems to be a splinter group of BMB members who like to jump into every thread about these products and talk about how prospecting is dumb and who would pay $1000 for a card of a guy who hasn't played in a major league game oh my god why??????

Jaypers · 11-24-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubfan86

Why did you do a none of the above? If they do not vote for one fo the products just move along then.
It does not make sense for a vote like this.

I didn't do anything. Only the Mods can create polls. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have added that option.

thekramers5 · 11-25-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by phil

the avg. BC/BCDP return for me has been 200% in 2 years. it would take a heck of a lot of short-term "churning" to match that. i don't think i would have the energy lol.

The great thing with my approach to Chrome is you don't need to tie up the money for that long. For example, for 2007 Chrome I bought 30 cases and sold every one for $150 to $250 profit within 1 month of release (total profit over $5,000 after all fees). I was out the down payments for a couple months, but basically got all the rest of the money back right away.

Phil, you're doing great with the Chrome products since it seems that only one since 2003 has more than doubled (05 Draft). I know 04 and 06 BC have been at/near double (unless, of course, you're a direct or get a ridiculous price!!

). But, some of the others have been startlingly(?) flat. Now, 2002 and before - different sotry! Perhaps you can share your secrets -

I guess my whole point of this thread was not what is better - but that 07 Sterling looks pretty darn good and EXCITING. If you told me I could only invest in one product in any way to make money, of course I'd pick Chrome (it's too easy to make money from a flip standpoint). BUT, I am amazed with the long-term potential of the Sterling checklists beginning with 06 - seeing as how they have ALL of the BC & BCDP autos, plus several other first round draft picks and HOT prospects signing later in the year not in the Chrome products. What if Billy Rowell does hit it big? He has one "RC Auto" from Sterling.

TK

thekramers5 · 11-25-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by otmack2o

TK, no Alex Gordon or Clayton Kershaw on the list?

Tony,

Not enough sleep!

Actually, I think that supports the argument for Sterling's checklist - because isn't Gordon in Chrome & Kershaw BCDP?

TK

DadofTwins · 11-25-2007, 03:04 PM

What will you make the most money on - BOWMAN DRAFT hands down-

Better and more fun to Rip Donruss Elite Extra

Best Value - Tristar

Simple as that

frozenntimesports · 11-25-2007, 04:11 PM

I'm doing 2 cases of BDP, is it enough? I am honestly considering punting it and concentrating on a hockey product.

rockholt · 11-25-2007, 04:40 PM

I think you can make money on 2 cases, but from what I've seen in year's past you need at least 5 cases to max. your profits for Bowman Draft.

solt0131 · 11-25-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rockholt

I think you can make money on 2 cases, but from what I've seen in year's past you need at least 5 cases to max. your profits for Bowman Draft.

Could you explain why? I'm just curious..I usually just break Hockey anyway, but just wondered why it takes 5. Thanks.

go_steelers07 · 11-25-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by solt0131

Could you explain why? I'm just curious..I usually just break Hockey anyway, but just wondered why it takes 5. Thanks.

of course, with 5 cases you get a better shot at the parallels of autos and hot players. but also, selling in player lots is the way to go with BDP and the bigger the lot, the more per card you will probably get.

scottiff · 11-25-2007, 06:33 PM

Solt I will take this one. The prospecting products, particularly Bowman Draft and Chrome, are all about the individual players. Some people purchase these products in sets but what the prospectors are looking for are the player lots. Everybody has picked out their can't miss and their sleepers and they are looking for them in quantity. Ten and twenty card lots are what they want. For Bowman Draft 5 cases are required to have a good shot at having 10 card lots of all the chrome prospects. It is simply about the math.

solt0131 · 11-25-2007, 06:39 PM

So it's basically just like Bowman Chrome then. Here is my question though (I was looking over the product info):

1) What do you do with the green bowman non chrome cards and for that matter, the green bowman chrome rookie cards? Sell the same way? I know these mostly suck, but with Chamberlain, Braun and others in there, can you sell them?

2) What about the blue non chrome cards?

scottiff · 11-25-2007, 08:49 PM

I plan on making lots out of everything. They are easier to put together even thought listing them on ebay is a bigger chore.

Jaypers · 11-25-2007, 10:50 PM

Our resident Bowman Chrome Addict (Jim) just listed 30 ct. Bowman and 20 ct. Bowman Gold lots from 2007 BDP on eBay.

Should be interesting to watch. He told me he'll probably list his Chrome lots after they end.

CaptainBOHICA · 11-25-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

Our resident Bowman Chrome Addict (Jim) just listed 30 ct. Bowman and 20 ct. Bowman Gold lots from 2007 BDP on eBay.

Should be interesting to watch. He told me he'll probably list his Chrome lots after they end.

its live already?!?!

Jaypers · 11-25-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainBOHICA

its live already?!?!

No, they're pre-sells.

scottiff · 11-26-2007, 05:59 AM

He did that with Bowman Chrome also and things didn't go too well. I know because I was right there with him. I sold a second series of 20 card lots and they sold better than the first series which was the second off ebay. Jim had a similar experience. I think this is one product that you can take your time on with the lots. Mine sold better after Christmas than before last year.

11-25-2007, 10:50 PM	#39 (permalink)
Jaypers Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IL Posts: 3,560 cardboardconglomerate	Our resident Bowman Chrome Addict (Jim) just listed 30 ct. Bowman and 20 ct. Bowman Gold lots from 2007 BDP on eBay. Should be interesting to watch. He told me he'll probably list his Chrome lots after they end. __________________ J.P. There is absolutely no reasoning with the unreasonable.

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11-25-2007, 03:04 PM	#31 (permalink)
DadofTwins Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hartland Wi Posts: 1,750 Exposfan Exposfan1998	What will you make the most money on - BOWMAN DRAFT hands down- Better and more fun to Rip Donruss Elite Extra Best Value - Tristar Simple as that

11-25-2007, 04:11 PM	#32 (permalink)
frozenntimesports Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Emmaus, PA Posts: 8,819 frozenntimesports frozenntimesports	I'm doing 2 cases of BDP, is it enough? I am honestly considering punting it and concentrating on a hockey product.

11-25-2007, 04:40 PM	#33 (permalink)
rockholt Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 90 rockholt rockholt	I think you can make money on 2 cases, but from what I've seen in year's past you need at least 5 cases to max. your profits for Bowman Draft.

11-25-2007, 06:33 PM	#36 (permalink)
scottiff Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 399	Solt I will take this one. The prospecting products, particularly Bowman Draft and Chrome, are all about the individual players. Some people purchase these products in sets but what the prospectors are looking for are the player lots. Everybody has picked out their can't miss and their sleepers and they are looking for them in quantity. Ten and twenty card lots are what they want. For Bowman Draft 5 cases are required to have a good shot at having 10 card lots of all the chrome prospects. It is simply about the math.

11-25-2007, 06:39 PM	#37 (permalink)
solt0131 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,833 PghSportsCards	So it's basically just like Bowman Chrome then. Here is my question though (I was looking over the product info): 1) What do you do with the green bowman non chrome cards and for that matter, the green bowman chrome rookie cards? Sell the same way? I know these mostly suck, but with Chamberlain, Braun and others in there, can you sell them? 2) What about the blue non chrome cards?

11-25-2007, 08:49 PM	#38 (permalink)
scottiff Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 399	I plan on making lots out of everything. They are easier to put together even thought listing them on ebay is a bigger chore.

11-26-2007, 05:59 AM	#42 (permalink)
scottiff Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 399	He did that with Bowman Chrome also and things didn't go too well. I know because I was right there with him. I sold a second series of 20 card lots and they sold better than the first series which was the second off ebay. Jim had a similar experience. I think this is one product that you can take your time on with the lots. Mine sold better after Christmas than before last year.