Why do they have an Auto of _______?

[pitch21]

Had a couple people comment on my "HUGE" Marlon Byrd auto pull from Tier One and wanted to see who everyone thinks is the most ridiculous person to have an auto of and what product it is from?

Again, Marlon Byrd in 2012 Topps Tier One

[YanksBillsFan]

Travis Wood in 2012 Tier One. Did a double take in the first break I saw him pulled.

[Cubs_rock21]

Joel hanrahan is pretty bad in tier one...if it wasn't for these scum autos the stars wouldn't be worth as much money

[neahcrow]

Marlon Byrd is the absolute worst as a Cubs fan and then after his steroid deal. I pulled that wonderful card in my case of Tier One. I can't imagine having one box and getting that and the other two crap cards that were in the box/pack. I was going to make a thread discussing inventive ways to do away with the card. I might put it in a geocache or something. The worst thing about the card is that they call it a "Crowd Pleaser". Crowd Pleaser my a**

[ArsonCuff]

I wish there was a product that would include and cover all of the lesser name players on teams because as a fan of my team I'd like one of everybody not just the same big stars.

[Sauceman]

I don't understand how people think a product can hold any value in big hit cards without a plethora of "scrub" hits. So every box should contain only star autos and memorabilia? That really grinds my gears...that being said...there are players in Tier One with autos that I wouldn't own in a 20 team fantasy league. Gaby Sanchez really pisses me off for some reason. Total bum!!

[Homerun]

Chris Heisey in everything.

[Sauceman]

Originally Posted by Homerun

Chris Heisey in everything.

This would be my 2nd choice.

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by Sauceman

I don't understand how people think a product can hold any value in big hit cards without a plethora of "scrub" hits. So every box should contain only star autos and memorabilia? That really grinds my gears...that being said...there are players in Tier One with autos that I wouldn't own in a 20 team fantasy league. Gaby Sanchez really pisses me off for some reason. Total bum!!

And i never understood this argument either. For the most part, no one is saying every box should include a darvish, Harper, Aaron, Mays, Koufax, Trout

but be creative. Just because it shouldnt include those guys every time, doesnt mean i should be subjected to obscure Relief pitchers and backup catchers ala 2011 Bowman Platinum. Just for example..

why can't the "scrub" autos be more like

Cole Hamels, Jay Bruce, Carlos Ruiz, Scott Rolen, David Wright, Robinson Cano, Jim Thome, Jimmy Rollins, Matt Cain, Austin Jackson

you know, guys who arent mega stars, but decent guys i wouldnt mind having an auto of, or guys that wouldnt make a $100 box a bust every time i DONT hit a Harper, Darvish, Koufax, Hall of famer, Trout, Pujols, Mays, Aaron, etc

over guys like JC Arencibia, Evan Meek, Angel Pagan, Chris Heisey, Adam Lind. etc

[Homerun]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

And i never understood this argument either. For the most part, no one is saying every box should include a darvish, Harper, Aaron, Mays, Koufax, Trout

but be creative. Just because it shouldnt include those guys every time, doesnt mean i should be subjected to obscure Relief pitchers and backup catchers ala 2011 Bowman Platinum. Just for example..

why can't the "scrub" autos be more like

Cole Hamels, Jay Bruce, Carlos Ruiz, Scott Rolen, David Wright, Robinson Cano, Jim Thome, Jimmy Rollins, Matt Cain, Austin Jackson

you know, guys who arent mega stars, but decent guys i wouldnt mind having an auto of, or guys that wouldnt make a $100 box a bust every time i DONT hit a Harper, Darvish, Koufax, Hall of famer, Trout, Pujols, Mays, Aaron, etc

over guys like JC Arencibia, Evan Meek, Angel Pagan, Chris Heisey, Adam Lind. etc

How in the world do you consider Thome a scrub? A future HOF for sure, and he has over 600 Homeruns.

[IamRalpho]

There are A LOT of scrub guys in the products lately, a real weak and watered down grouping of players.

[Sauceman]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

And i never understood this argument either. For the most part, no one is saying every box should include a darvish, Harper, Aaron, Mays, Koufax, Trout

but be creative. Just because it shouldnt include those guys every time, doesnt mean i should be subjected to obscure Relief pitchers and backup catchers ala 2011 Bowman Platinum. Just for example..

why can't the "scrub" autos be more like

Cole Hamels, Jay Bruce, Carlos Ruiz, Scott Rolen, David Wright, Robinson Cano, Jim Thome, Jimmy Rollins, Matt Cain, Austin Jackson

you know, guys who arent mega stars, but decent guys i wouldnt mind having an auto of, or guys that wouldnt make a $100 box a bust every time i DONT hit a Harper, Darvish, Koufax, Hall of famer, Trout, Pujols, Mays, Aaron, etc

over guys like JC Arencibia, Evan Meek, Angel Pagan, Chris Heisey, Adam Lind. etc

I can appreciate that. However, a lot of those guys would be very very nice hits, like Wright, Cano, Thome and Hamels. The rest I could see. Maybe some Swisher and Granderson for sure!

[37Jetson]

Dude, you are missing his point. He is not dissing Thome.

Originally Posted by Homerun

How in the world do you consider Thome a scrub? A future HOF for sure, and he has over 600 Homeruns.

[neahcrow]

I think its really cruel to people who can only afford a pack or box here or there. It wasn't until this year that I could afford a case of pretty much any product. I got some horrible boxes of higher end stuff from 2010-2012. It might not be smart but I wanted to give it a try in my budget. It's a big turn off when you spend as much money as you have and you get an absolute garbage return. I believe they should make the products average out a little more instead of either being huge booms or busts as it seems to be often.

[go_steelers07]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

Cole Hamels, Jay Bruce, Carlos Ruiz, Scott Rolen, David Wright, Robinson Cano, Jim Thome, Jimmy Rollins, Matt Cain, Austin Jackson

you know, guys who arent mega stars, but decent guys i wouldnt mind having an auto of, or guys that wouldnt make a $100 box a bust every time i DONT hit a Harper, Darvish, Koufax, Hall of famer, Trout, Pujols, Mays, Aaron, etc
over guys like JC Arencibia, Evan Meek, Angel Pagan, Chris Heisey, Adam Lind. etc

it wouldn't be $100/box product..... more like $300/box..... then this entire discussion would start all over again.

[danimal875]

The main problem is that collectors DONT BUY SINGLES. They all bust boxes hoping for monster hits. They only buy singles with the $$ they have after selling crap hits or whatever is left on their credit card. Couple that with the proliferation of the internet and everybody on Ebay and we are slowly getting a world of case hits barely making a case.

[illadelf]

Originally Posted by Cubs_rock21

Joel hanrahan is pretty bad in tier one...if it wasn't for these scum autos the stars wouldn't be worth as much money

You can pretty much fill in any Closer's name here other than Mariano. Hanrahan has been one of the best in baseball for the last 2 years. Doesn't help that he plays for the Pirates either.

[mfisher27]

Originally Posted by go_steelers07

it wouldn't be $100/box product..... more like $300/box..... then this entire discussion would start all over again.

EXACTLY!!!!!
It blows my mind that people dont understand this concept. Why do you think prices go up and down? If every box had players like everyone is suggesting, tier one would be way more than it already is. Simple economics people.

[Ty Hope]

There is only one answer to this question.... The Rip-Master and Rip-girls!

[tman109ner]

Well I just get back on topic and refill in the blank with chris heisey again in any product.

[georgewashinton]

Relief pitcher formerly known as Leo Nunez with a bat as his relic. Guy had 1 career AB.

[S.Gallagherfan6]

paul estrada from 2007 bowman chrome i remember being awful

[bowefan]

The boxes are full of scrubs except for 1 good hit every 3 or so boxes. By me saying scrubs, i mean players that range from 1 dollar autos or jersey cards to 20 dollar cards.
We the collectors forced the companies to put more jersey and auto cards in the boxes, by bitching and complaining to the card companies that there wasn't enough content. So to make up the content they put more player autos in, then we complained some more that we need more autos and jerseys. Companies complied and they added more. Now into days market, there is an average of 2 autos and 1 or more jersey cards per box. At a rate of lets say 7,000 cases in a product and 10 boxes per case, the card companies have to come up with 70,000 jersey cards and 140,000 autos. Now if you only included star players, meaning players that the collectors would consider money cards, there would only be about 10 to or so active players and 15 to 25 retired players. So let's do the math. On the high end there is 35 money players, so that is around 4,000 autos per money player and 2,000 jersey cards per player. On the low end, let's say there is 25 money players, thats 5,600 autos and 2,800 jersey cards per player.
Does anyone want to pull a pujols auto that is either #To 4,000 or 5,600 or a jersey card that is #to 2,000 or 2,800, I think not. The prices of star or money cards would crash and burn.
This is why we see scrub autos and jersey cards as well as second tier players, plus the cost of the autos to be obtained by the companies would drive them out of buisness, if they only did money players.
I have been saying for about 5 years now, that the companies should go back to the old formula they used back in the mid to late 90's. Insert the autos and jersey cards at a rate of 1 out of 72 packs(prospects/decent players), 1 out of 144 packs(stars) , 1 out of 244 packs (money cards) and whatever rate per pack for super highend autos. This way the autos and jerseys are more valued in the marketplace,also the normal insert that is thrown in the product has once again becomes valuable.

But what the hell do I know. I am just some poor sap who pays inflated prices for a box of crap.

David

[WhacksPacks]

Brought to you by the company that produced THESE gems... NEVER be shocked at what or who they will include in an auto checklist



They even mock us in their products and they know it...hence all the autos are signed "BS"

[JohnnysBench]

How about 2007 Topps Allen and Ginter Diamond Jim paw print auto /50? A dogs paw print? Really??? I believe there was a Monster Truck Auto from the same release???