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Old 07-13-2012, 08:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default WWYD --- Derek Jeter 1/1

Well I OC Jeter. I have around 600 different cards. But not one Auto . I do have a 2011 Allen and Ginter 1/1 printing plate. I might have an opportunity to trade it for a Jeter auto. If it were you and your PC guy, wether it be Jeter, Harper, Sandberg or whom ever What Would You Do?

Do you think any Jeter auto is worth more than a 1/1 plate?

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Old 07-13-2012, 08:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uh yeah an auto is worth more than a plate. Don't get caught up in the 1/1 crap with plates, there are 3 others that look the same with a different color being the only change.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would say go for it, but what autograph card is it? My guess is that most Jeter autos sell for $75+ and Plates are fairly plentiful these days, so you could find another Jeter one for less than what you would pay for an auto. Plus, it's your card, so you can do whatever you want with it.
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Id much rather have an auto
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You prbly can't get a straight up deal unless the person needs the plate but sell it and put the money towards a nice auto
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trade the plate for an auto anyday
but is the auto from a major card company
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I disagree. I would keep the plate. Jeter autos can be bought any day of the week. The 1/1 is what a super jeter collector would want. I say hold.
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I disagree. I would keep the plate. Jeter autos can be bought any day of the week. The 1/1 is what a super jeter collector would want. I say hold.
With all due respect, are you the same kind of guy that says 2/XXX is a 1/1 as well?

It is a printing plate, they should be numbered /4.
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With all due respect, are you the same kind of guy that says 2/XXX is a 1/1 as well?

It is a printing plate, they should be numbered /4.
I disagree. There is only 1 black printing plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 canary refractor. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 cyan plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 superfractor autgraph. It's a 1/1.

Etc. etc. etc...
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If its a really nice looking plate it could depend I guess.

But overall for Jeter I think I'd trade a plate for an auto (assuming we're talking a licenced major league certified trading card auto and not something thats an in-person).
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Old 07-13-2012, 11:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I disagree. There is only 1 black printing plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 canary refractor. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 cyan plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 superfractor autgraph. It's a 1/1.

Etc. etc. etc...
I hear you, but there also isn't a cyan superfractor or a magenta canary. Those 2 examples you gave are true 1/1's.
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There is more to this. First we don't know what kind of autograph we are talking about. There are plenty of ugly sticker Jeter autographs that don't turn heads. Second remember that the ginter plate comes from a popular set. There are more than a few guys putting together master Jeter sets from ginter and this could be a huge piece of the puzzle. I could see the plate getting 150+ on ebay. There are plenty of Jeter autos
not worth half that. Maybe you can give us more info.

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Speaking as a guy who doesn't PC Jeter, I would trade it for an authentic auto from a card company in a second. Speaking as someone who PCs Ripken, if I had the opportunity to own a Ripken 1/1, it would be very hard for me to trade it for an auto. I can see it both ways.
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It just depends on how attached you are to the plate. Coming from someone who PC's Jeter as well I personally am not a big fan of plates but I also haven't chased any Jeter autographed cards. He has a nice looking auto and it can be appreciated much more on the balls, bats and books I have on display of his not on a card that for the most part only you will see/know you have.

I'd say keep the plate or sell it to put aside for an autographed ball. If you PC Jeter then you're going to be a lot happier seeing that ball on the shelf whenever you want then trading it and possibly getting a cut off sticker auto or something you don't like and regretting it.
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I hear you, but there also isn't a cyan superfractor or a magenta canary. Those 2 examples you gave are true 1/1's.
So does that mean that a Red Refractor isn't really #/5 because there are Orange Refractors and Gold Refractors and Blue Refractors and Purple Refractors?

After all, it's just a different color border!
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I disagree. There is only 1 black printing plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 canary refractor. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 cyan plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 superfractor autgraph. It's a 1/1.

Etc. etc. etc...
There's also only one orange refractor #'d 01/25 and only one #'d 02/25. etc... You can make any case for a card to be a 1/1 if it's serial #'d. Bottom line is there are 4 plates
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There's also only one orange refractor #'d 01/25 and only one #'d 02/25. etc... You can make any case for a card to be a 1/1 if it's serial #'d. Bottom line is there are 4 plates
Bottom line, if there is only one of something available there is only one available.

Take the serial number off a Orange Refractor and there are still 25 orange refractors.

Take the serial number off a Black Printing Plate and there is still only one black printing plate.



How about this,


Ford produces four Special Edition Mustangs.

One is painted Blue.
One is painted Red.
One is painted Yellow.
One is painted Black.

Going by what you say, Ford produced four Mustangs, none of which are unique. Is that correct?

Ford could put a badge on the Blue one that says 1/4, a badge on the Red one that says 2/4, a badge on the Yellow one that says 3/4, and a badge on the Black one that says 4/4, but does that change the fact that there is only one of each color available?

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Bottom line, if there is only one of something available there is only one available.

Take the serial number off a Orange Refractor and there are still 25 orange refractors.

Take the serial number off a Black Printing Plate and there is still only one black printing plate.



How about this,


Ford produces four Special Edition Mustangs.

One is painted Blue.
One is painted Red.
One is painted Yellow.
One is painted Black.

Going by what you say, Ford produced four Mustangs, none of which are unique. Is that correct?

Ford could put a badge on the Blue one that says 1/4, a badge on the Red one that says 2/4, a badge on the Yellow one that says 3/4, and a badge on the Black one that says 4/4, but does that change the fact that there is only one of each color available?
You just answered your own question......

Not 1 Mustang of whatever color.
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I'd just sit on the plate and get an auto when you can if you collect him like that.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:22 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Ok well after listening to all of the above arguments my decision has not been made any easier. Here is a pic of my printing plate. I guess I should've mentioned it is a Framed mini plate

An here are probably 2 choices of autos I could trade it for. I am more partial to the one with the jersey but it's/275 and the other is /25. Idk maybe this will help someone's arguement.



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Ok well after listening to all of the above arguments my decision has not been made any easier. Here is a pic of my printing plate. I guess I should've mentioned it is a Framed mini plate

An here are probably 2 choices of autos I could trade it for. I am more partial to the one with the jersey but it's/275 and the other is /25. Idk maybe this will help someone's arguement.



I would take the premier for the plate in a heartbeat
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I disagree. There is only 1 black printing plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 canary refractor. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 cyan plate. It's a 1/1.

There's only 1 superfractor autgraph. It's a 1/1.

Etc. etc. etc...
and because of this floods the market with 1/1s making them worth less and less
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I would take either one of the autos for that plate without a second thought.
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I would take either one of the autos for that plate without a second thought.
+1 Leave the plate, take the auto
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All you can do is what makes YOU happy with YOUR collection. What anyone else says is secondary.

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