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Old 08-13-2012, 04:07 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Matt Cain - 2002 BDPP Gold Refractor
Tim Lincecum- 2007 Bowman Chrome or 2007 UD exquisite auto
Buster Posey-2008 BDPP Auto
Madison Bumgarner- 2008 BDPP Auto
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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WOW - thanks a ton JReyesCollector!!!

Can I get ur personal opinion on some of the trickier ones you listed? If you care to, please share you rationale behind your choices. Specifically, with the first three below, we are choosing between earlier issues that are also auto'd, and some of the earlier issues being on-card rather than sticker. Also, with Weeden, does it matter (to you) that it's a baseball issue rather than a football issue. I listed him in the OP to determine this question. Thanks again!
No problem. This kind of stuff is right up my alley. I don't really dabble in prospecting anymore and stick to rookies of major leaguers now, so I feel like I know this market a little better.

With Weeden, I really have no idea. I don't collect football at all, so I've got no interest in his cards. I don't know anything about football cards and what they consider to be the best, so I have a hard time answering that question.

With the ones below, I prefer the 2005 Ultimate Fielder, 2006 Bowman Chrome Upton, and 2005 Topps Chrome McCutchen. I'd rather have a card with major league uniforms on, which is why I like the Upton and McCutchen better. I never was really a fan of the AFLACS, and I'm still not, but they do sell very well. With Fielder, he only had Prospect Premiers in 2002, but had many rookies produced in 2005. The Ultimate was very limited and is from a recognizable set, so the price can get up there pretty quickly. Ultimately, I'd like an on card auto, but that won't be the only factor for me in deciding between rookies.

With the way companies are making base rookies and then coming out with autos a year later, it can get tricky. In this situation, I feel like collectors will gravitate more towards autographs. Even if the first card comes out 2-3 years before the auto, I feel like people will see that value comes with the autograph and that will help push sales.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Really excellent stuff ^^^^^

And just to show that there is an exception to every rule....
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Aroldis Chapman-2010 Bowman Chrome AU...
Aroldis Chapman's 2009 Donruss Elite Extra autos sell for a lot more than anything Bowman.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:30 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Derek Jeter- As well as the 1993 SP foil rc, the 1993 Stadium Club Murphy card is also just as valuable
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Josh Hamilton- 1999 Topps Traded Auto
Starlin Castro- 2010 Bowman Chrome Auto
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Really excellent stuff ^^^^^

And just to show that there is an exception to every rule....

I offer you this

Haha yep. Like I said, I'd prefer for there to be major league uniforms on the card, but sometimes you've just got to settle for a polo. I sometimes wonder what they were looking to accomplish with '92 Bowman when they took the pictures.

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Aroldis Chapman's 2009 Donruss Elite Extra autos sell for a lot more than anything Bowman.
The base versions very well may sell for more, but that's not what I was going after. I listed the cards I would associate with being rookies. The Elites are numbered /695, but Bowman Chrome autos have many more copies, probably 3-4x the amount. However, if you are going to compare parallels of the sets, Bowman Chrome blows Elite out of the water. If you take the highest recent sale of an Elite auto /50, you will see that one got about $180 dlvd. However, the lowest recent sale of a Gold Refractor auto /50 was $245. There are instances in which other releases will outshine Bowman Chrome at the base level, but Chrome always seems to prevail when it comes to parallels. I'd much prefer the Chrome because it goes better with the rest of my collection, but to each their own.
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Matt Cain - 2002 BDPP Gold Refractor
Tim Lincecum- 2007 Bowman Chrome or 2007 UD exquisite auto
Buster Posey-2008 BDPP Auto
Madison Bumgarner- 2008 BDPP Auto
You mean like this one
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The base versions very well may sell for more, but that's not what I was going after. I listed the cards I would associate with being rookies. The Elites are numbered /695, but Bowman Chrome autos have many more copies, probably 3-4x the amount. However, if you are going to compare parallels of the sets, Bowman Chrome blows Elite out of the water. If you take the highest recent sale of an Elite auto /50, you will see that one got about $180 dlvd. However, the lowest recent sale of a Gold Refractor auto /50 was $245. There are instances in which other releases will outshine Bowman Chrome at the base level, but Chrome always seems to prevail when it comes to parallels. I'd much prefer the Chrome because it goes better with the rest of my collection, but to each their own.
You're right, a lot of it is personal preference. I don't much like Chrome in general.

For me, it depends on whether we're talking "rookie" or "card to have". If it's rookie, then 2010 Bowmans are out - no matter what Topps says, he had cards in 2009 Bowman, so nothing from 2010 counts as his rookie.

And I happen to like the Elite auto better than the Bowman, for perhaps the opposite reason that you prefer Bowman - it looks totally different from most of his other cards.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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If you are talking about best RC, then for Oswalt it would be his 2000 SPX /1600, preferably in BGS 9. If you are talking about his rarest card then the 2000 Bowman Chrome Retro/Future Refractor. There hasn't been one for sale on Ebay since 2010.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:49 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I'm trying to do a "best of" collection, getting the best card I can afford of each player and working my way up. It's interesting trying to argue which Cy Young or Ty Cobb card is "best." Here's my list, I'd love some input on these too:

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Eddie Collins
Pete Alexander
Kid Nichols - N172 Old Judge
Cy Young
Walter Johnson
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker - T206
Honus Wagner - T206

Rogers Hornsby - 1932 US Caramel
Babe Ruth - 1933 Goudey (yellow portrait?)
Lou Gehrig - 1933 Goudey
Mel Ott - 1933 Goudey
Nap Lajoie - 1933 Goudey

Stan Musial - 1948 Leaf #4
Willie Mays - 1951 Bowman
Mickey Mantle - 1952 Topps
Hank Aaron - 1954 Topps
Ted Williams
Frank Robinson - 1957 Topps
Tom Seaver - 1967 Topps
Mike Schmidt - 1973 Topps

Rickey Henderson - 1980 Topps
Roger Clemens - 1984 Fleer Update
Barry Bonds - 1987 Fleer
Greg Maddux - 1987 Donruss
Alex Rodriguez - 1994 SP Foil #15
Albert Pujols - 2001 Bowman Chrome Auto
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The Barry Bonds best rc is 1987 Topps Traded Tiffany PSA 9-10
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Harper- 2010 BC Buyback auto or AFLAC auto in my opinion
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