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Old 09-17-2012, 04:34 PM   #601 (permalink)
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I don't think gio counts as a horse, maybe a pony.
I am assuming this is a joke right? Orel Hershiser just said that Gio Gonzalez is one of the best left handed pitchers in baseball. In case you don't know who he is, Orel Hershiser was a three-time All-Star and won the Gold Glove, Cy Young Award, NLCS MVP and World Series MVP with the Dodgers in 1988. He also holds the Major League record for most consecutive scoreless innings pitched, pitching 59 consecutive innings without giving up a run from August 30, 1988 to September 28, 1988.

I am going to make the assumption and say that Hershiser probably knows a little bit more about baseball and pitching than you do.

Point being, Gio is DEFINITELY a horse.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:38 PM   #602 (permalink)
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So pitching 6 innings a game is considered a horse?
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I am assuming this is a joke right? Orel Hershiser just said that Gio Gonzalez is one of the best left handed pitchers in baseball. In case you don't know who he is, Orel Hershiser was a three-time All-Star and won the Gold Glove, Cy Young Award, NLCS MVP and World Series MVP with the Dodgers in 1988. He also holds the Major League record for most consecutive scoreless innings pitched, pitching 59 consecutive innings without giving up a run from August 30, 1988 to September 28, 1988.

I am going to make the assumption and say that Hershiser probably knows a little bit more about baseball and pitching than you do.

Point being, Gio is DEFINITELY a horse.
Now that we've established that Gio is DEFINITELY a horse, would you say he is more likely to be an Appaloosa or an American Quarter horse?
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:40 PM   #604 (permalink)
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So pitching 6 innings a game is considered a horse?

Well if your referring to one game, 9 innings shutout would be considered a horse wouldn't it?
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I'm not talking about one game. As johnandrew has clearly stated multiple times, gio's innings count is not elite, therefore he is not a horse. Thank you.
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I'm not talking about one game. As johnandrew has clearly stated multiple times, gio's innings count is not elite, therefore he is not a horse. Thank you.

Well if a Cy Young candidate isn't a horse I don't know what is.
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LOL, this has gone from silly to ... well, sillier.
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Well if a Cy Young candidate isn't a horse I don't know what is.
RA dickey is a horse.
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RA dickey is a horse.

Dickey has been in the league since 2001, NOW is when he is a horse. 1-2 good seasons, if thats considered a horse then well I guess we have different understandings.
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Now that we've established that Gio is DEFINITELY a horse, would you say he is more likely to be an Appaloosa or an American Quarter horse?
American Quarter Horse no doubt.
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Dickey has been in the league since 2001, NOW is when he is a horse. 1-2 good seasons, if thats considered a horse then well I guess we have different understandings.
The past has nothing to do with this year
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Kyle Loshe has a real decent shot

14-3
2.81
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Gio

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So Loshe has more innings pitched and a lower ERA than Gio.
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Kyle Loshe has a real decent shot

14-3
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So Loshe has more innings pitched and a lower ERA than Gio.

Haven't seen him talked about in one Cy Young discussion. Other categories aren't up to par.
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Haven't seen him talked about in one Cy Young discussion. Other categories aren't up to par.
Cannot discount someone with a 14-3 record.....

Its probably a longshot for him
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Holy smokes, looks like I missed a lot on the subway ride home from work today

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Kyle Loshe has a real decent shot

14-3
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Gio

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So Loshe has more innings pitched and a lower ERA than Gio.
While we are on the topic of horses, I should add that Lohse is my dark horse.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:02 PM   #616 (permalink)
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If anyone cares ESPN has Dickey +2.5 now
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i hate that w/l is factored so heavily into the formula. most worthless stat in baseball.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:22 PM   #618 (permalink)
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showtime!!!
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:22 PM   #619 (permalink)
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Right now

Dickey

4.0
3 Hits
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:23 PM   #620 (permalink)
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This is Dickey's award to lose.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:30 PM   #621 (permalink)
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JRolls Triple is overturned so he comes up and hits a homer lol

2-0 Philllies

1 Earned Run for Dickey 1 unearned

ERA is a whopping 2.66 now lol

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If he had some run support and they played defense behind him, he'd be winning right now.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:35 PM   #623 (permalink)
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If he had some run support and they played defense behind him, he'd be winning right now.
Its tough when you have a bunch of AAA players and a handful of MLB players on your roster....

Cliff Lee is pitching real well tonight..

Thats one of the reasons why Gio has so many wins. Sure he is a very good pitcher but his offense is light years ahead of the Mets right now
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2-1 Phillies bottom of the 5th
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8 K's now through 5

Has 205 now for the season
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