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Old 10-12-2012, 12:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Verlander is the best pitcher in the game

It's games like the ALDS game 5 where I know there is no doubt in my mind that Justin Verlander is the best pitcher in the game. I know I'm a Tigers homer, but I don't know how anyone could argue anything else.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There is no doubt about it. He's the best in the game right now.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's games like the ALDS game 5 where I know there is no doubt in my mind that Justin Verlander is the best pitcher in the game. I know I'm a Tigers homer, but I don't know how anyone could argue anything else.
He certainly is in the clutch.
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I'm a yankee fan and I completely agree! Verlander is incredible.
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Didn't think there was any question. Justin "Sure"lander.
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Didn't think there was any question. Justin "Sure"lander.
That's what I was going to say, never thought there was any debate about it right now
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Guy seems to have an unlimited amount of innings available, and throws harder as the game progresses. Could he possibly challenge Ryan's strikeout record?
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:01 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This guy is a beast. tough luck for my a's. hopefully oakland will be back next year.
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Guy seems to have an unlimited amount of innings available, and throws harder as the game progresses. Could he possibly challenge Ryan's strikeout record?
Doubt it unless he's a Clemons style robot and pitches into his 40's.
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I was at the game and was amazed at the velocity he was pitching in the later innings...sucks for my A's...but i'll be rooting for them to win it all...screw the NL and Yankee's IF they make it.
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I was at the game and was amazed at the velocity he was pitching in the later innings...sucks for my A's...but i'll be rooting for them to win it all...screw the NL and Yankee's IF they make it.
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I'd have to say Beckett is the best in the game
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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No doubt...Verlander by a mile
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Guy seems to have an unlimited amount of innings available, and throws harder as the game progresses. Could he possibly challenge Ryan's strikeout record?
Verlander is a beast. I do believe that he is the best in the gme right now. Absolutely no way he breaks Ryans record though.
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:11 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Verlander right now, Kershaw in a couple years when he can extend his IP to match that of Verlander
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While I agree he is a beast, looking at his post season record, I am not sure why anyone would be so confident about the results before the game was played. His post season numbers are mediocre at best.

I realize that it is a small sample size and what he does this year could significantly change his numbers but ALCS (3 games) 2-1, 5.94 ERA and a 1.56 WHIP, WS, 0-2, 5.73, 1.54WHIP. Heck, ALDS before this year was 1-0 in 3 games with a 5.03 ERA and a 1.54WHIP.
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While I agree he is a beast, looking at his post season record, I am not sure why anyone would be so confident about the results before the game was played. His post season numbers are mediocre at best.

I realize that it is a small sample size and what he does this year could significantly change his numbers but ALCS (3 games) 2-1, 5.94 ERA and a 1.56 WHIP, WS, 0-2, 5.73, 1.54WHIP. Heck, ALDS before this year was 1-0 in 3 games with a 5.03 ERA and a 1.54WHIP.
Verlander is showing his strengths this postseson but you have to realize it WAS the A's who don't exactly have murders row in their lineup!
As the Tigers proceed to the ALCS it will be interesting to see if he continues to dominate, the key is to get to him early, because as has been stated numerous times in this thread he get's stronger as the game moves on.
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Verlander is amazing and a rare breed of pitcher for these days. He's this year's AL Cy Young in my mind.
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Could he possibly challenge Ryan's strikeout record?
No chance!
He would need a few 300K seasons and I dont see that happening.
Then he would also still have to be mowing guys down at 42 like Ryan was.
Also an extreme longshot.

Verlanders career high at almost 30 is 269. Ryan had 7 seasons with more than that.
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No chance!
He would need a few 300K seasons and I dont see that happening.
Then he would also still have to be mowing guys down at 42 like Ryan was.
Also an extreme longshot.

Verlanders career high at almost 30 is 269. Ryan had 7 seasons with more than that.
^^^^This. Ryan's record is so unfathomable. As good as Verlander is, he won't even come close to the strikeout record. I mean look at a guy like Clemens. Clemens was a better pitcher than Verly is. He had a long tenure in the majors and still came up over 1000K's shy of this record. Its an unfathomable record.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:30 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Verlander is a modern day Bob Gibson.
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Let's qualify this properly:

Justin Verlander is (by far) the best pitcher playing the game today.

As long as Nolan Ryan is still getting a paycheck from an MLB team, he is the best "in the game."
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Verlander is a modern day Bob Gibson.
Agreed. Except he doesn't have Tim McCarver to yell at to "get his a$$ back behind the plate. You're a catcher... I don't want to talk to you!!!" That is a classic, hard-nosed dude.
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so your saying I should unload my Verlander 1/1 I got out of TTT the other night???
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Verlander is showing his strengths this postseson but you have to realize it WAS the A's who don't exactly have murders row in their lineup!
As the Tigers proceed to the ALCS it will be interesting to see if he continues to dominate, the key is to get to him early, because as has been stated numerous times in this thread he get's stronger as the game moves on.
You mean the same A's that were a top 5 offense post AS break?
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