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RedSoxFan28 11-05-2012 07:54 PM

Red Sox Offseason 2012-13
 
I know I already have one of these threads, but it got off topic and cluttered. I thought I'd make a more up to date one. Which I'll try to keep updated with new roster moves and also were people can talk about their opinions or thoughts.
Any info would be appreciated in keeping an up to date roster!

Thanks!

C: Salty/ Lavarnway/ Ross
1B: Napoli
2B: Pedroia
3B: Middlebrooks
SS: Stephen Drew/ Jose Iglesias/ Ciriaco
LF: Gomes (Nava, Kalish)
CF: Ellsbury
RF: Shane Victorino (Nava, Kalish)
DH: Oritz

Starters:
1. Lester
2. Clay
3. Doubrount
4. Lackey
5. Dempster

Bullpen:
Joel Hanrahan CL
Bailey CL/SU
Tazawa
Koji
Melancon
Breslow
Bard
Miller
Aceves
Mortensen
Carpenter

New Coaches/Manager
Manager: John Farrell
Pitching Coach: Juan Nieves
Hitting Coach: Greg Colbrunn
Ass. Hitting Coach: Victor Rodriguez
Bench Coach: Lovullo
First Base Coach: Arnie Beyeler
Third Base Coach: Brian Butterfield
Bullpen Coach: Gary Tuck



Free Agent Signings/Trade:
David Ross (2 yr/ 6.2 Million)
Jonny Gomes (2 yr/ 10 Million)
Zack Stewart was traded to the Pirates for Kyle Kaminska
Danny Valencia was sent to the O's for cash considerations
Sandy Rosario was sent to the A's for Graham Godfrey
Mike Napoli (1 yr/ 5 Million (13 million)
Shane Victorino (3 yr/ 37.5 Million)
Acquired Justin Henry for Jeff Kobernus
Koji Uehara (1 yr/ 4.25 Million)
Ryan Dempster (2 yr/ 26.5 Million)
Stephen Drew (1 yr/ 9.5 Million)
Stolmy Pimental, Melacon, De Jesus, Jerry Sands for Joel Hanrahan & Brock Holt
Lyle Overbay (1yr/ minor league deal)
NRI:
Drew Sutton
Anthony Carter
Mark Hamilton
Jonathan Diaz

Bosox34 11-05-2012 08:59 PM

They need to focus this season on aquiring a somewhat decent 1st basemen whether by trading or by signing. Probably a guy like BryanLahair

TheNerd 11-05-2012 09:44 PM

Any info on if Buchholz is staying for 2013? I figured I would start a PC of him since I ended up with several high end cards pretty cheap lately LOL go Sox!

IamRalpho 11-05-2012 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=TheNerd;3595842]Any info on if Buchholz is staying for 2013? I figured I would start a PC of him since I ended up with several high end cards pretty cheap lately LOL go Sox![/QUOTE]

He's not going anywhere. Go nuts on the PC

RedSoxFan28 11-05-2012 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=TheNerd;3595842]Any info on if Buchholz is staying for 2013? I figured I would start a PC of him since I ended up with several high end cards pretty cheap lately LOL go Sox![/QUOTE]

I think and hope he is staying for 2013 and beyond! I am expecting a good year from him next year! :)

Uri The Fury 11-05-2012 10:52 PM

Brentz is doing well in the Arizona Fall League.....I can see him taking one of the corners in the OF.

[url=http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&lid=119&t=l_bat]Winter Leagues: Arizona Fall League: Statistics | MLB.com: Events[/url]

MarshallCutler6 11-05-2012 10:57 PM

Would you be terribly offened if i used this idea and made one for the Cubs? Its a great idea!!

IamRalpho 11-05-2012 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=Uri The Fury;3596293]Brentz is doing well in the Arizona Fall League.....I can see him taking one of the corners in the OF in 2014

[url=http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&lid=119&t=l_bat]Winter Leagues: Arizona Fall League: Statistics | MLB.com: Events[/url][/QUOTE]

Fixed that for you, no way he starts 2013 in the majors.

Uri The Fury 11-05-2012 11:20 PM

[QUOTE=IamRalpho;3596332]Fixed that for you, no way he starts 2013 in the majors.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you on that. I think he will get a shot in 2013 though

Munsonmanor 11-05-2012 11:35 PM

In all honesty, this should be the "bridge" year that Theo should've had a couple of seasons ago instead of going for it and overspending. I believe a trade with the Angels for Kendrys Morales (they basically have 3 1B/DH types in Morales, Trumbo, and Pujols) to play first base. The only free agent I would do is possibly Mike Napoli, depending on how much $ he wants. Shortstop is a little tricky. Ciriaco is more of a super utility type. Maybe sign Stephen Drew for one year until Xander Bogaerts is ready? I see Ellsbury & Kalish in two outfield spots. Unless the Red Sox plan on trading for a stud pitcher, I say keep Ellsbury, give him a qualifying offer and let Jackie Bradley Jr. take over CF in 2014. Lester, Buchholz, & Lackey will be in the rotation for sure. Doubrount, not too sure about him. Could see a Carlos Villanueva or a Brandon McCarthy in the 5th spot. Someone that has good stuff but can be had on the cheap side. The starters have got to return to form next year or this team will be right back where it was this past season. The offense won't be a juggernaut, but then again, neither was the A's or Orioles and look where they wound up.

IamRalpho 11-06-2012 12:28 AM

[QUOTE=Uri The Fury;3596495]I agree with you on that. I think he will get a shot in 2013 though[/QUOTE]

Do I see he sees the majors in 2013? Absolutely
Will he make any kinda major contribution/play a lot unless there is a 2012 type rash of injuries? Absolutely not.

I could see him, Barnes, Xander, Bradley all up in September.

In all honesty, if Bryce Brentz gets 300+ AB in the majors this year, then something went terribly wrong for the Red Sox...again

JohnAndrew 11-06-2012 01:18 PM

Good news, Sox fans...salvation has arrived, and his name is D'Angelo Ortiz: [url=http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/11/05/red-sox-sign-david-ortiz-son-for-5/]David Ortiz’ Son Signs $5 Contract With Red Sox CBS Boston[/url]

RedSoxFan28 11-06-2012 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=JohnAndrew;3598360]Good news, Sox fans...salvation has arrived, and his name is D'Angelo Ortiz: [url=http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/11/05/red-sox-sign-david-ortiz-son-for-5/]David Ortizí Son Signs $5 Contract With Red Sox CBS Boston[/url][/QUOTE]

Yes! For how many years? It didn't say :)

Also at what size ballpark did he homer at? I doubt it, but if it was at Fenway for 8 years old that's pretty insane :)

RedSoxFan28 11-06-2012 04:38 PM

I know this isn't a Gold Glove but Pedroia won the " Wilson Defensive Player of the Year Award" for 2nd baseman, I feel he was robbed a GG this year. At least he won one defensive award :o
[url=http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121106&content_id=40183634&vkey=news_bos&c_id=bos]Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia snares Wilson defensive award | redsox.com: News[/url]

mainerunr 11-06-2012 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=RedSoxFan28;3598956]Yes! For how many years? It didn't say :)

Also at what size ballpark did he homer at? I doubt it, but if it was at Fenway for 8 years old that's pretty insane :)[/QUOTE]

Most little league parks around here have fences that are 200ft. Either way, I have yet to see an 8-10 year old put one over the fence locally (and very few 12 yr olds). Gotta have a decent pitch to hit and they just dont see too many of those around here.

My boy did hit a gapper to the fence between the outfielders in a game and rounded third as the outfielder was throwing the ball in (no errors on the play or the throws, they even read it right, just couldnt cover the ground fast enough...any misread or error and I wouldnt consider it a HR)...actually, he did this twice but the second time the third base coach held him up for some reason (and he would have scored easily and knew it...he was so mad). Speed helps in cases like this :)

MLBguru8 11-06-2012 07:49 PM

C: Salty/ Lavarnway
1B: Youk/Napoli
2B: Pedroia
3B: Youk/Middlebrooks
SS: ? (No idea right now but not Joe Iglesias/ Ciriaco)
LF: Swisher
CF: Ellsbury
RF: ? (Most likely Ross)
DH: Oritz/Napoli

Starters:
Lester
Clay
Doubrount
Lackey
Bard
*Acquisition

just what I'm feeling on Nov. 6th

stormshadow815 11-06-2012 08:01 PM

I'm pretty sure you guys will be throwing Ruby De La Rosa in the staff. If not right out of spring then id say within a month or two of the season.

IamRalpho 11-06-2012 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=MLBguru8;3600317]C: Salty/ Lavarnway
1B: Youk/Napoli
2B: Pedroia
3B: Youk/Middlebrooks
SS: ? (No idea right now but not Joe Iglesias/ Ciriaco)
LF: Swisher
CF: Ellsbury
RF: ? (Most likely Ross)
DH: Oritz/Napoli

Starters:
Lester
Clay
Doubrount
Lackey
Bard
*Acquisition

just what I'm feeling on Nov. 6th[/QUOTE]

I dunno whats crazier, Youkilis being back here or the Red Sox ever letting Bard start again.

Theres a better chance you and I pitch for them this year than those 2 things happening

RedSoxFan28 11-06-2012 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=IamRalpho;3601005]I dunno whats crazier, Youkilis being back here or the Red Sox ever letting Bard start again.

Theres a better chance you and I pitch for them this year than those 2 things happening[/QUOTE]

Agreed, I think they should just keep Bard in the Bullpen and try to get him back into form :)

MLBguru8 11-06-2012 10:20 PM

Like I said, just kinda what I'm feeling right now. I'm 100% in favor of bard closing, but with Bailey there currently I don't see him in the pen.

I think youk could be back with the six only because he is the best 1b out there right now.

IamRalpho 11-06-2012 10:42 PM

Bard was arguably the biggest disaster for the 2012 Red Sox, and that says a lot. No one even knows if he can relieve anymore since he was a mess in Pawtucket and when he came back up.

He is never starting again, and he not even be the same reliever he once was.

Also, the Youkilis ship has sailed. He had a BAD year last year, which is a sign of things to come.

RedSoxFan28 11-07-2012 03:42 PM

Red Sox just signed their new pitching coach, Juan Nieves: [url=http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121107&content_id=40193252&vkey=news_bos&c_id=bos]Juan Nieves tabbed as Red Sox's new pitching coach | redsox.com: News[/url]

MLBguru8 11-07-2012 04:11 PM

Think there is anything to the Ellsbury for Andrus rumors that are flying.. Sox came out and said they aren't trading Ells, which usually means that will trade him haha

RedSoxFan28 11-07-2012 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=MLBguru8;3604472]Think there is anything to the Ellsbury for Andrus rumors that are flying.. Sox came out and said they aren't trading Ells, which usually means that will trade him haha[/QUOTE]


I like the idea of trading Ellsbury, but I personally don't like the deal of Ellsbury for Andrus. :o

IamRalpho 11-07-2012 05:04 PM

I would drive Ellsbury to Texas for Andrus, that would be a wet dream.

Or even for Holland


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