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Old 11-24-2012, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation 2012 Bowman Draft Picks - Hobby Wrapper Odds

Someone on the box breaks boards posted most (not all) of the Hobby odds. He's busted 9 hobby boxes. Hopefully he'll post the rest when he returns.


refractor 1:4
blue refractor 1:26
gold refractor 1:128
orange refractor 1:256
red refractor 1:1,267
superfractor 1:6,325

auto 1:41
refractor auto 1:90
blue auto 1:299
gold auto 1:893
orange auto 1:1,788
purple auto 1:4,459
red auto 1:8,950
super auto 1;42,750

printing plate 1:11,250
bowman black auto 1:2,850
bbest die cuts - ref 1;288, xfractor 1:1,144, atomic 1:29,000
futures relic 1:345
futures patch 1:3,415
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I posted this in the other thread too, but here's a quick view of what the odds are compared to last year.

refractor 1:4 1:4
blue refractor 1:26 1:41
gold refractor 1:128 1:162
orange refractor 1:256 1:324
red refractor 1:1,267 1:1,620
superfractor 1:6,325 1:7,410

auto 1:41 1:37
refractor auto 1:90 1:101
blue auto 1:299 1:337
gold auto 1:893 1:1,004
orange auto 1:1,788 1:2,008
purple auto 1:4,459 1:5,050
red auto 1:8,950 1:10,150
super auto 1;42,750 1:47,200
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Really like the improved color odds...I'm very curious to see Jumbo odds now.

Any word on Aflac/Perfect Game?
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Really like the improved color odds...I'm very curious to see Jumbo odds now.

Any word on Aflac/Perfect Game?
Waiting to find this out as well, hopefully when the gentleman returns.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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sounds good
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If my math is correct: based on the super auto odds there is ~5,340 cases of hobby and 890 cases of jumbo.

This is based on the belief that there is 6 cases of hobby for every case of jumbo.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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How can an auto be 1:41?
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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How can an auto be 1:41?
That's what I'm wondering as well. Based on auto's being 1:41 does that mean there are boxes that will be shorted????
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That's what I'm wondering as well. Based on auto's being 1:41 does that mean there are boxes that will be shorted????
no with all the odds of color and insert autos it comes out to exactly one per box
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no with all the odds of color and insert autos it comes out to exactly one per box
Well then why advertise at 1:41. I thought those were the OVERALL odds. So meaning combined.
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no odds of Aflac/PG/UA Auto for both Jumbo & Hobby packs
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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And only 2,not 4,PROSPECT CHALLENGE cards per Hobby box.Jumbo have 4 in it.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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How can an auto be 1:41?
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That's what I'm wondering as well. Based on auto's being 1:41 does that mean there are boxes that will be shorted????
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Well then why advertise at 1:41. I thought those were the OVERALL odds. So meaning combined.
pay attention...........

base auto 1:41
refractor auto 1:90
blue auto 1:299
gold auto 1:893
orange auto 1:1,788
purple auto 1:4,459
red auto 1:8,950
super auto 1;42,750

1/41+1/90+1/299+1/893+1/1788+1/4459+1/8950+1/42750 = 0.04088

now hit the 1/X button on the calculator = 24.459 (oh my, 1:24 overall odds for an auto)
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pay attention...........

base auto 1:41
refractor auto 1:90
blue auto 1:299
gold auto 1:893
orange auto 1:1,788
purple auto 1:4,459
red auto 1:8,950
super auto 1;42,750

1/41+1/90+1/299+1/893+1/1788+1/4459+1/8950+1/42750 = 0.04088

now hit the 1/X button on the calculator = 24.459 (oh my, 1:24 overall odds for an auto)
No need to be a smart#@#@#@ about it. And as I recall it's not listed as a BASE auto. Just auto.
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And only 2,not 4,PROSPECT CHALLENGE cards per Hobby box.Jumbo have 4 in it.
According to the flyer in the challenge thread, these cards are inserted 1:6 packs, thus, 4 per hobby box.
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According to the flyer in the challenge thread, these cards are inserted 1:6 packs, thus, 4 per hobby box.
I think he is posting from experience though.
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base auto 1:41
refractor auto 1:90
blue auto 1:299
gold auto 1:893
orange auto 1:1,788
purple auto 1:4,459
red auto 1:8,950
super auto 1;42,750

1/41+1/90+1/299+1/893+1/1788+1/4459+1/8950+1/42750 = 0.04088

now hit the 1/X button on the calculator = 24.459 (oh my, 1:24 overall odds for an auto)
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pay attention...........

base auto 1:41
refractor auto 1:90
blue auto 1:299
gold auto 1:893
orange auto 1:1,788
purple auto 1:4,459
red auto 1:8,950
super auto 1;42,750

1/41+1/90+1/299+1/893+1/1788+1/4459+1/8950+1/42750 = 0.04088

now hit the 1/X button on the calculator = 24.459 (oh my, 1:24 overall odds for an auto)
All you needed to do was say "it should say base auto"

This board is really nasty I tell you what
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All you needed to do was say "it should say base auto"

This board is really nasty I tell you what
i wasn't being nasty... i just have a it of sarcasm in me. that's all.

i thought people would understand that the first odds listed are for the base autos since all the color odds follow....
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No need to be a smart#@#@#@ about it. And as I recall it's not listed as a BASE auto. Just auto.
i thought people would understand that the first odds listed are for the base autos since all the color odds follow....
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And only 2,not 4,PROSPECT CHALLENGE cards per Hobby box.Jumbo have 4 in it.
If this is true, there are going to be some pissed off people (me included), and some false advertising claims on Topps.

EDIT: 4 Per jumbo doesn't seem right does it? That would be one every 3 packs, seems odd that Topps would change it like that.
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And the biggest surprise is refractor auto is not be numbered.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:59 PM   #23 (permalink)
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And the biggest surprise is refractor auto is not be numbered.
Not surprising at all - the sell sheets made no mention of them being serialized.
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And the biggest surprise is refractor auto is not be numbered.
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Not surprising at all - the sell sheets made no mention of them being serialized.
Refractor autos have always been #/500..... so it is a bit surprising.
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What are the ice parallel odds?
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