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Old 12-04-2012, 10:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If only 10 players playing right now or in the 2012 season could make the HALL what would your list look like.

in no order...

Pujols
jeter
chipper "larry"
CC Sabathia
Miguel Cabrera
Ryan Braun
Roy Halladay
Justin Verlander
Vlad
Jim Thome (600+ homers is hard to keep out)
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not that big of Yankee fan but how the hell could you leave Mo off that list?
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If only 10 players playing right now or in the 2012 season could make the HALL what would your list look like.

in no order...

Pujols
jeter
chipper "larry"
CC Sabathia
Miguel Cabrera
Ryan Braun
Roy Halladay
Justin Verlander
Vlad
Jim Thome (600+ homers is hard to keep out)
Thome
Jeter
Jones
Pujols
Fielder
Cabrera
Rivera
Cano
Konerko
Halladay


A few of these are based on potential to keep up current pace(Cano, Fielder, Konerko)
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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S**t! MO slipped my mind. that is my mistake
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Players who could go in right now:
Mariano Rivera
Albert Pujols
Jim Thome
Chipper Jones
Omar Vizquel
Derek Jeter
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(Players who are on pace for the hall)
Roy Halladay
Miguel Cabrera
Justin Verlander
Ryan Braun
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Players who could go in right now:
Mariano Rivera
Albert Pujols
Jim Thome
Chipper Jones
Omar Vizquel
Derek Jeter
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(Players who are on pace for the hall)
Roy Halladay
Miguel Cabrera
Justin Verlander
Ryan Braun
what do miggy and halladay have to do to jump to the top list?
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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These are the only players I am certain will go to the HOF who are still active or at least active up until this year:

CHIPPER!!!
Jeter
Pujols
Miggy Cabrera
Halladay
Ichiro
Thome

There are others who I think will make it if they keep up their pace like Braun and Verlander
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ryan Braun isnt a sure thing, Vizquel shouldnt go in, but he will.

Todd Helton will be an interesting case too
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These are the only players I am certain will go to the HOF who are still active or at least active up until this year:

CHIPPER!!!
Jeter
Pujols
Miggy Cabrera
Halladay
Ichiro
Thome

There are others who I think will make it if they keep up their pace like Braun and Verlander
i forgot about ichiro too!
i want a do over.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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what do miggy and halladay have to do to jump to the top list?
For Cabrera IMO the bare minimum for him to get in should be something like 2500+ hits and 400+ HR (which he should definitely surpass) and Halladay needs at least one more good season to get him over 200 wins etc.. Which again shouldn't be too hard for him to do either.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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For Cabrera IMO the bare minimum for him to get in should be something like 2500+ hits and 400+ HR (which he should definitely surpass) and Halladay needs at least one more good season to get him over 200 wins etc.. Which again shouldn't be too hard for him to do either.
if major league baseball ended today would you put them in?
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Although I hate him, A-rod?
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Although I hate him, A-rod?
i just didn't add him because of roids. not that anyone cares about that. if they let bonds, sosa, big mac in then i say yes to a-rod
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if major league baseball ended today would you put them in?
Probably not. If MLB ended after the 2013 or 2014 Season and they both kept up the same paces they've been on then yes. But right now I think they're borderline.
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i just didn't add him because of roids. not that anyone cares about that. if they let bonds, sosa, big mac in then i say yes to a-rod
I think Bonds and Arod have to get in eventually. The voters will punish them by making them wait but at the very least Bonds' domination of the game can't be ignored. We will have to wait and see how Arod finishes his career but I think Sosa and McGwire will have to buy tickets to Cooperstown with the rest of us.
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Not that big of Yankee fan but how the hell could you leave Mo off that list?
I'd leave him off my list because I don't believe closers, even one as dominant as Mo, belong in the HOF.

He has only pitched about 1300 innings in his career, which is about six seasons for a reliable starter. Because they pitch so little (in about 4-5% of a teams innings per season), their impact on the game is minimal.

Even Mo has an average career WAR of only about 3 wins a season, which puts him in the same ballpark in terms of overall impact as such luminaries as Chuck Finley, Dave Stieb, Jerry Koosman, and Kevin Appier.

Heck, Tim Hudson has a higher average WAR than Mo does.....
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Pujols
Chipper
Jeter
Mo
Ichiro
Miggy
Thome
Trout (don't hold me to this)
Verlander
Posey (if he remains behind the plate)
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Derek Jeter
Albert Pujols
Ichiro Suzuki
Mariano Rivera
Roy Halladay
Jim Thome
Alex Rodriguez
David Wright
Robinson Cano
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I'd leave him off my list because I don't believe closers, even one as dominant as Mo, belong in the HOF.

He has only pitched about 1300 innings in his career, which is about six seasons for a reliable starter. Because they pitch so little (in about 4-5% of a teams innings per season), their impact on the game is minimal.

Even Mo has an average career WAR of only about 3 wins a season, which puts him in the same ballpark in terms of overall impact as such luminaries as Chuck Finley, Dave Stieb, Jerry Koosman, and Kevin Appier.

Heck, Tim Hudson has a higher average WAR than Mo does.....
WAR does not = HOF votes
it's also not the end-all-be-all of baseball.

Mariano, IMO, is a lock for the Hall! and i am not a Yankee fan.
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I think Bonds and Arod have to get in eventually. The voters will punish them by making them wait but at the very least Bonds' domination of the game can't be ignored. We will have to wait and see how Arod finishes his career but I think Sosa and McGwire will have to buy tickets to Cooperstown with the rest of us.
I fail to understand your logic. Why would Sosa and McGwire not be allowed in but A-rod would? Didn't Alex admit that he took steroids...Isn't that admitting he cheated?

Cheating is cheating. If Pete Rose isn't going to be allowed in (even though it's different circumstances) then A-Rod, McGwire, Sosa, and most def not Bonds should be allowed in. There are more and these just name a few but play the game the right way.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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In no particular order..

1. Albert Pujols
2. Derek Jeter
3. Chipper Jones
4. Miguel Cabrera
5. Roy Halladay
6. Jim Thome
7. Alex Rodriguez - Yes he will get in.
8. Ichiro Suzuki
9. Mariano Rivera
10. Andruw Jones

Who else I think gets in at this point..

Justin Verlander
Todd Helton
Robinson Cano
David Ortiz
Andy Pettitte
Ivan Rodriguez (not sure if he's still on a roster)
Vlad Guerrero
Bobby Abreau
Chase Utley
CC Sabathia


Players who have a good shot if they keep on their pace:


Ryan Braun
Joe Mauer
Paul Konerko
Clayton Kershaw
Prince Fielder
Felix Hernandez
Matt Kemp
Dustin Pedroia
David Wright
David Price
Buster Posey


I might have left a few off but this is my list for now.. Mind you I am a Nationals fan and their isn't one player from my team on this list. No bias towards any of these players/teams.
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1) Ichiro
2) Roy Halladay
3) Albert Pujols
4) Chipper Jones
5) Mariano Rivera
6) Jim Thome
7) Derek Jeter
8) Miguel Cabrera
9) Ryan Braun
10) Justin Verlander
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Way under radar...

Ryan Zimmerman..

Started young..

Looks like a guy who will play for washington for 15-20 years..

Amazing D

Stays healthy could get 2500 plus hits...
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I'd leave him off my list because I don't believe closers, even one as dominant as Mo, belong in the HOF.

He has only pitched about 1300 innings in his career, which is about six seasons for a reliable starter. Because they pitch so little (in about 4-5% of a teams innings per season), their impact on the game is minimal.

Even Mo has an average career WAR of only about 3 wins a season, which puts him in the same ballpark in terms of overall impact as such luminaries as Chuck Finley, Dave Stieb, Jerry Koosman, and Kevin Appier.

Heck, Tim Hudson has a higher average WAR than Mo does.....
You my friend need to watch some baseball if you believe that Mo doesn't deserve to be in after being one of the most dominate PLAYERS of his time.
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