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Old 12-13-2012, 01:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Good Afternoon,

In early January, I will be going to court against the Topps Company. I cannot get into specifics about the case at this time. However, I am in need of some assistance from the message board.

I am looking for products from the past 2-3 years that have specific insertion rates for different Tiers or player autograph from either baseball or football products.

As an example, I think in 2012 Bowman Jumbo there are Tiered autos (Tier A & Tier B).

Are there any other products that spell out a specific player (Harper or Strasburg are another example) or a group of players.

If you have the actual rates, images if these rates, or product info (year /set) I can get actual packaging (which is what I really need)

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think last years gypsy queen was a fiasco, could be wrong though........
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Good luck to you.
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2011 bowman sterling baseball

2008 MOMENTS MILESTONES
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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older products have the group odds spelled out (2008 bwman chrome fb), the newer ones dont
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2011 bowman sterling baseball

2008 MOMENTS MILESTONES
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older products have the group odds spelled out (2008 bwman chrome fb), the newer ones dont
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I think last years gypsy queen was a fiasco, could be wrong though........

Thanks for the info, I'm looking more for products that state on the packaging different odds, like the Bowman Jumbo that specifically called out Tier A at 1 insertion rate and Tier B at another harder insertion rate
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Topps Prime FB, I'm pretty sure does that but I won't know for sure until I get home.
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2011 Topps Lineage, 2010 Topps Chrome(Strasburg), I thought this years baseball finest did, but I must have thrown out the box, sorry.

Give em hell, man!
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Topps Prime FB, I'm pretty sure does that but I won't know for sure until I get home.
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2011 Topps Lineage, 2010 Topps Chrome(Strasburg), I thought this years baseball finest did, but I must have thrown out the box, sorry.

Give em hell, man!
Can you give me any specifics?
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I know 2010 Topps Chrome Football had different groups for the autographs, with different odds for each group.
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I know 2010 Topps Chrome Football had different groups for the autographs, with different odds for each group.
Thanks, that helps!
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I'm pretty sure 2011 bowman sterling baseball also had different tiers with different odds. I remember being really pissed off when I got my case and saw the odds.
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2011 Gypsy Queen had tiered autographs and so did 2011 Topps Lineage
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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2010 Bowman retail..Tier A and B autos..screwed A LOT of people
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last years bowman chrome (but no odds where posted)

2005 bowman draft (zimmerman weaver and drew )
2002 bc ( (ishii)
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Topps inserts it into me at a pretty frequent rate.
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2010 Bowman RETAIL Wrapper Odds

You should check out this thread..I'm going to assume you have an attorney (or are one) who can find more evidence..there's tons of pics of the wrapper w/ stated odds via google images
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I wish I knew what you were suing them for but I don't think you can beat Topps
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I wish I knew what you were suing them for but I don't think you can beat Topps
Well if it's small claims court and Topps doesn't send a representative down then he will most likely win by default.
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Well if it's small claims court and Topps doesn't send a representative down then he will most likely win by default.
I wish you luck. Keep us updated would like to know the outcome.
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Well if it's small claims court and Topps doesn't send a representative down then he will most likely win by default.
In my opinion..it is impossible to win whatever you're talking about here..you don't think they had attorneys review the odds and statements they put on the packs?
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In my opinion..it is impossible to win whatever you're talking about here..you don't think they had attorneys review the odds and statements they put on the packs?
Thanks for the comments. Obviously my goal is to win my case. If we go to trial on this case, win or lose the matter will be public record. In order for Topps to win their case, they will have to provide information that will help everyone across all of their product going forward and make Topps a more transparent company. If this does go to trial, I will ensure that the public record is posted on here win or lose.
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2010 Bowman retail..Tier A and B autos..screwed A LOT of people
I believe the Strasburg auto had its own odds on the packaging. Maybe it was blaster box I was thinking of.

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2009 Topps Finest Baseball

Finest Moments Autographs - Group A = 1:10
Finest Moments Autographs - Group B = 1:61

Also, I believe they do the auto pools like that most commonly with retail blasters. I could have sworn they did that with 2011 or 2012 Bowman Platinum.
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2009 Topps Finest Baseball

Finest Moments Autographs - Group A = 1:10
Finest Moments Autographs - Group B = 1:61

Also, I believe they do the auto pools like that most commonly with retail blasters. I could have sworn they did that with 2011 or 2012 Bowman Platinum.
Perfect! This is exactly what Im looking for. Thanks!
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