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Old 12-17-2012, 11:23 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why are you criticizing the OP on this one? His post clearly stated he had asked for delivery and signature confirmation but the PO employee incorrectly informed him that he did not need it. Obviously most of us know that for paypal you still need those to be trackable online because we have talked to paypal directly or have heard horror stories of people getting screwed in the past. So we wouldnt accept the explanation from the employee. However, if I was not aware of the fact it must be tracable online and that the insurance coverage doesnt provide that and the post office employee said it was all included I would probably be inclined to also believe like the OP did that they knew what they were talking about. Otherwise he wouldnt have had the conversation with the post office employee in the first place. The OP got f'ed by the PO here and hopefully it doesnt cause him any problems with this buyer in the near future. Hopefully what everyone takes form this thread is dont trust employees anywhere lol. One time when I got screwed by what an employee of some company told me I from that point forward got names, id #s, record the exact date and time, whatever I can if I even have the slightest doubt that they know what they are talking about so I can go back to them and specifically reference them and the conversation in case something gets screwed up. Otherwise all I got when I call is 'hey you guys told me ______. I dont know who it was or when they told me, but I can assure you thats what I was told.' Doesnt really hold up lol
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:34 PM   #27 (permalink)
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You should be fine. You bought insurance and federal mail fraud is quite a deterrent to scamming a Paypal case. Also the type of people who spend $740 on a prospect auto usually aren't the shady types.
I wouldn't sweat it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:05 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Why are you criticizing the OP on this one? His post clearly stated he had asked for delivery and signature confirmation but the PO employee incorrectly informed him that he did not need it. Obviously most of us know that for paypal you still need those to be trackable online because we have talked to paypal directly or have heard horror stories of people getting screwed in the past. So we wouldnt accept the explanation from the employee. However, if I was not aware of the fact it must be tracable online and that the insurance coverage doesnt provide that and the post office employee said it was all included I would probably be inclined to also believe like the OP did that they knew what they were talking about. Otherwise he wouldnt have had the conversation with the post office employee in the first place. The OP got f'ed by the PO here and hopefully it doesnt cause him any problems with this buyer in the near future. Hopefully what everyone takes form this thread is dont trust employees anywhere lol. One time when I got screwed by what an employee of some company told me I from that point forward got names, id #s, record the exact date and time, whatever I can if I even have the slightest doubt that they know what they are talking about so I can go back to them and specifically reference them and the conversation in case something gets screwed up. Otherwise all I got when I call is 'hey you guys told me ______. I dont know who it was or when they told me, but I can assure you thats what I was told.' Doesnt really hold up lol
In the "real" business world, and not the dreamland that eBay sellers are used to (and yes, I still think that eBay sellers have it made despite eBay/Paypal regulations), the SELLER is always responsible for their own assets/merchandise and that includes transportation and delivery, etc. The seller is supposed to know more than the PO worker because the seller has more at stake. A PO worker is no less prone to mistakes than a Walmart lady who sells a sealed retail box of cards for $2.99 because she scanned one pack. As a SELLER, you are the master of your domain and the king of your castle...like a casino owner...watching the moves of every person around you. It is up to you and only you to ensure the success of your business and that includes taking measures against fraud, mistakes, loss, damage, etc. You should have every form at the PO memorized and know exactly what needs to be on the package.

I don't want to beat the seller up and be a Captain Hindsight here, but the truth is the truth. When I was a teenager back when eBay first began, I was schooling the PO staff all the time. Even at 16 yrs old I understood that it was my job to know how to do their job if I wanted to stay in business, and that mentality has kept my business alive over a decade. I've caught many PO mistakes that could have cost me money but I walked them through it and got what I needed. It's survival of the fittest, and knowledge is the protein.
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Why are you criticizing the OP on this one?
Do you ask Microsoft how to properly install your plumbing? Then don't ask the USPS how eBay and PayPal works.
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Do you ask Microsoft how to properly install your plumbing? Then don't ask the USPS how eBay and PayPal works.
No, I asked for a tracking number which USPS told me I had. I would think they would know about their own services
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No, I asked for a tracking number which USPS told me I had. I would think they would know about their own services

Apples and oranges. Some mouth breathing chimp at the counter told you they have to sign for the insured package. This is true for USPS policy.

Has nothing to do with Ebay/Paypal. For them you need Signature Confirmation which is an added cost.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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In the "real" business world, and not the dreamland that eBay sellers are used to (and yes, I still think that eBay sellers have it made despite eBay/Paypal regulations), the SELLER is always responsible for their own assets/merchandise and that includes transportation and delivery, etc. The seller is supposed to know more than the PO worker because the seller has more at stake. A PO worker is no less prone to mistakes than a Walmart lady who sells a sealed retail box of cards for $2.99 because she scanned one pack. As a SELLER, you are the master of your domain and the king of your castle...like a casino owner...watching the moves of every person around you. It is up to you and only you to ensure the success of your business and that includes taking measures against fraud, mistakes, loss, damage, etc. You should have every form at the PO memorized and know exactly what needs to be on the package.

I don't want to beat the seller up and be a Captain Hindsight here, but the truth is the truth. When I was a teenager back when eBay first began, I was schooling the PO staff all the time. Even at 16 yrs old I understood that it was my job to know how to do their job if I wanted to stay in business, and that mentality has kept my business alive over a decade. I've caught many PO mistakes that could have cost me money but I walked them through it and got what I needed. It's survival of the fittest, and knowledge is the protein.
I completely agree with you. All I was saying in my posts is that I am sick of reading of people who come on threads like this and just make fun of and criticize the OP. If the OP knew that the PO worker gave him incorrect info then this thread wouldnt have been created in the first place as he would have told them no and still demanded the signature confirmation that he had initially asked for. He asked our opinion on if a paypal claim could be made and if it could be successful, that is all. Alot of people were helpful and advised him of the paypal requirements regarding trackable online delivery and signature confirmation that just buying the insurance doesnt provide. Then you get the douches that like to pile on. It was more of a general rant that applies to many threads I have seen, not just this one
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