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Old 01-03-2013, 07:59 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Wow, I has to watch 1 case of this stuff and what I'm asking is where did this price point come from. There's no retail market, it doesn't sell anywhere and he admittedly had no idea what this product was about.

Personally I wouldn't feel right taking big money like this for a spot for something for a product I knew nothing about.

The worst thing is those Heroic Points, you don't even get a card, here's the link to the rules

how-it-all-works


Just looking at the first case, this was $650 or so a case? Holy cow, the only exact card that can't be valued on ebay is the Longoria, but this is about $200 of product.

Mike Trout 2011 PSA 10 - On average sell for about $40-$50

Nolan Ryan "Don't Mess With Texas" BIN $99

Evan Longoria 2008 Upper Deck X RC BGS 10, none on ebay but card is $3 PSA can't sell for $20.

Ted Williams 1959 FLEER TED WILLIAMS #56 1955-2,000TH MAJOR LEAGUE HIT PSA 8++ CENTERED BIN $30
No, that price is per box.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:12 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Mr. Gelfman was Cheerleader #1 during the break as well, getting all excited over $20 pristine base cards and $40 bat cards. I don't mind people trying to make some money running a break, trying out new products, but please spare all of the false excitement over an ungraded Nolan Ryan RC that sells for $3. Not a whole lot of objectivity in that break chat.
1968 Nolan Ryans sell for $3? Put me down for 50 of 'em.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:13 AM   #103 (permalink)
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I think this is very very reminiscent of a time long ago.

You have a new company selling autographed memorabilia, some with, some without COAs, and "buyback" cards. These aren't sold through hobby shops, but on a limited access cable show, sold by a straight man and an insane, loud, bearded pitchman who quoted insanely inaccurate price quotes when he is opening the product on air.

Fast forward 25 years. You have a new company selling autographed memorabilia, some with, some without COAs, and "buyback" cards. These aren't sold through hobby shops, but on a limited access webTV show, sold by a straight man and an insane, loud, bearded pitchman who quotes insanely inaccurate values when opening product on air.

Your cast:

HEroes of Sport as Ken Goldin/Score Board
Gelb as "Kenny", the straight man
Blog TV as Shop at Home
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Boomo as America's #1 pitchman, Don West.

It's really scary, that if you don't remember history, you're doomed to repeat it.

We all know how well Score Board worked out.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:33 AM   #104 (permalink)
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1968 Nolan Ryans sell for $3? Put me down for 50 of 'em.
in my rush to check ebay on the cards while the break was happening i clearly must have fat fingered the description in my search because that's all i found when i looked. checking back...yeah I'm an idiot. I still stand by the false optimism point though.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:30 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Actually, I was conversing with Gelf in a private chat.


I was led to believe that he had something to do with the company (with the phone call interview thing at the beginning, and the endless defense of the product and how great the pulls were during chat). I asked him why they inserted cards worth less than $30 into a $700 product


And trust me, I wasn't even going hard on him because I though he was part of the company. lol.
I think you are correct. He is registered here: Blowout Cards Forums - View Profile: gelfgelfgelf

Interesting first two posts. More interesting was post #3 which was deleted along with the boomo thread promoting this break. It was something along the lines of "I've heard great things about this product."
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:41 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Wow, so all I need to do is get a home on wheels, some birds, trash bags and a few sorting minions.

Then, i open boxes for people on blogTV and get a loyal following of clientele on eBay to buy into my breaks.
And join a message board to promote some of my breaks to new clients.
Then, I can exploit the crap out of them.

And, Instead of running my breaks on eBay, I can ask for direct PayPal and avoid eBay issues. Genius.

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Old 01-03-2013, 11:22 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Come on you guys have never heard the term axed? Like "he got the axe" aka he got the boot. It's pretty common.

Anyway, I joined the chat and I must say Boomo is a real piece of work, acting or not. Also I'm glad I had no desire to pay for the seats because there's hardly ANYTHING that I saw that'd I'd be happy with. I'm actually SHOCKED that this company didn't load the cases more.

Edit: Didn't Beckett advertise this product in their magazine?

Also I work within a mile of this place....I kinda what to do some recon work.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:28 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Come on you guys have never heard the term axed? Like "he got the axe" aka he got the boot. It's pretty common.
That is not the way it was used. I think it was used as a hidden racial jab myself.
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Can someone please link to the videos so I can have something funny to watch during lunch.

Did anyone happen to get a redemption for a Shaq Plaque?
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That is not the way it was used. I think it was used as a hidden racial jab myself.
It's from futurama...
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It's from futurama...
....used as a racial jab.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:56 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Seriously...did anyone expect any better?

There is zero transparency (except perhaps, now we know where/how much they paid for their cards )
My problem was not one picture of not one card! just the BIG stuff that will be impossible to pull. I have no problem with Boomo, but this product reeked of rip off...
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:07 PM   #113 (permalink)
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One picture was there the Darvish base RC
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:08 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Please post links to videos...all of this talk has got me itching to see this. I know from what I've heard it's a joke but I'd like too see the break link(sing up, rules, what it "guaranteed"...etc) and who actually joined.

Just did some searching on YouTube...tell me it wasn't this guy?!?
http://youtu.be/Bfv88Gx5xQQ

The way in which the card was handled and the way he acted should be enough to worry anyone giving this guy cash..even if it were for a cheap $20 grab bag break

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Old 01-03-2013, 12:25 PM   #115 (permalink)
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I still don't understand why people drop big bucks on grab bag products. At least when you waste money on mainstream product, you KNOW what you could potentially pull. Because of that, I just don't have much sympathy for those who lost their ass on this stuff. Buyer beware.

That said, I steadfastly encourage all to make fun of a crap product like this and a loon like Boomo.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:29 PM   #116 (permalink)
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I still don't understand why people drop big bucks on grab bag products. At least when you waste money on mainstream product, you KNOW what you could potentially pull. Because of that, I just don't have much sympathy for those who lost their ass on this stuff. Buyer beware.
I totally agree...goes back to the old saying, "maybe they've got more money than they have sense."
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:33 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Here are the videos for anyone who is interested:

free case 1-2 - blogTV

case 2 heroes - blogTV

case 3 heroes - blogTV

case 4 heroes - blogTV

case 5 heroes - blogTV
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I still don't understand why people drop big bucks on grab bag products. At least when you waste money on mainstream product, you KNOW what you could potentially pull. Because of that, I just don't have much sympathy for those who lost their ass on this stuff. Buyer beware.

That said, I steadfastly encourage all to make fun of a crap product like this and a loon like Boomo.
I feel the same way. I'm even paranoid about buying boxes over the internet since people could weigh the boxes. Not sure what there would be to gain from that, but it took me forever to find a store that I could trust, so I only buy from him.

I could never participate in a grab bag product, especially after Haiku.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:42 PM   #119 (permalink)
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Why can't I see this on my iPhone 5? I've tried several diff times to view blogtv with no success! Do I need to download an app or program to view it with the iPhone?
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So, they don't do anything to avoid the lottery thing?
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Come on you guys have never heard the term axed? Like "he got the axe" aka he got the boot. It's pretty common.

Anyway, I joined the chat and I must say Boomo is a real piece of work, acting or not. Also I'm glad I had no desire to pay for the seats because there's hardly ANYTHING that I saw that'd I'd be happy with. I'm actually SHOCKED that this company didn't load the cases more.

Edit: Didn't Beckett advertise this product in their magazine?

Also I work within a mile of this place....I kinda what to do some recon work.
Really? Did you read his posts before commenting on this? He did not use it in the way that you suggested. He used it in the place of "asked,ask". It is either intentional illeteracy, lazziness or both I did not read any racism into its use but that's just my opinion.
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It's from futurama...
I suppose I stand corrected as well as sorry that I myself did not read ahead before posting. I don't watch Futurama so any intentional inside joke from it obviously went over my head. Never mind me and continue to the Boomo bashing.
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The case itself looks like he made it in his basement in about five minutes. He just taped a couple of pieces of paper to the sides of a box.
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The case itself looks like he made it in his basement in about five minutes. He just taped a couple of pieces of paper to the sides of a box.
Yeah, I stopped watching when he started complimenting the box.
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650 a box? whoever created this product needs a beat down. why the #@#@#@#@ would you put a ken griffey jr xfractor BGS 10 in a 650.00 box?? wtf, did some guy just take all his graded cards and decide to make a product. Also i love the redemptions for items. The guy probably doesn't even own the items yet and was waiting to get in all the money from his sales to honor the redemptions.

A signed Pujols ball? wtf, that was cool and worth money 2 years ago
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