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HadWayTooMuch 01-09-2013 04:29 PM

Curt Schilling Question
 
Now I don't think Schilling is a HOFer, but many people are acting like his post-season and his bloody sock will get him in.

My question is this. If he gets in, what hat does he wear? Remember, he does not choose. I had written this awhile back. Any thoughts?

[url=http://www.sportscardmemories.com/apps/blog/show/13935146-1989-donruss-curt-schilling-rookie-card]Curt Schilling Article[/url]

mainerunr 01-09-2013 05:03 PM

Non issue, he does not belong in the Hall.

If he does get in, it will be because of what he did with the Red Sox, not what he did in his career so I could see him going in with a Sox hat.

mgugs46 01-09-2013 05:08 PM

My guess is he gets in eventually. 200+ wins, an amazing post season performer (not just in Boston) with 3,000+ K's.

HadWayTooMuch 01-09-2013 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=mainerunr;3990600]Non issue, he does not belong in the Hall.

If he does get in, it will be because of what he did with the Red Sox, not what he did in his career so I could see him going in with a Sox hat.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but a lot of "experts" believe he's worthy. I have my serious doubts!

I wrote this about 3 years ago when Andre Dawson was going in. I guess I'm stuck on the Gary Carter thing:

[url=http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4970457-andre-dawson-shouldnt-have-a-choice-what-cap-to-wear-in-cooperstown]Andre Dawson Shouldn't Have A Choice What Cap To Wear In Cooperstown[/url]

IamRalpho 01-09-2013 05:49 PM

Hes going to get in because his peak was so high, what he did during the post season and the fact he went to Boston and then they won.

The Hall chooses, so my guess is either Arizona or Boston.

marl1220 01-09-2013 06:37 PM

The answer is yes, he's a fat, drama queen of a d-bag.... Sorry, what was the question again?

IamRalpho 01-09-2013 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=marl1220;3991295]The answer is yes, he's a fat, drama queen of a d-bag who is going to be in the Hall of Fame.... Sorry, what was the question again?[/QUOTE]

Fixed it for you :)

AUTaxMan 01-09-2013 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;3990308]Now I don't think Schilling is a HOFer, but many people are acting like his post-season and his bloody sock will get him in.

My question is this. If he gets in, what hat does he wear? Remember, he does not choose. I had written this awhile back. Any thoughts?

[url=http://www.sportscardmemories.com/apps/blog/show/13935146-1989-donruss-curt-schilling-rookie-card]Curt Schilling Article[/url][/QUOTE]

Schilling doesn't pass my 5 second HOF test. If I have to think about whether or not someone is deserving for more than 5 seconds, they aren't.

IamRalpho 01-09-2013 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=AUTaxMan;3991466]Schilling doesn't pass my 5 second HOF test. If I have to think about whether or not someone is deserving for more than 5 seconds, they aren't.[/QUOTE]

Oh, you must have been a voter today because that sounds like the insightful rationale they used today :confused:

rolewiii 01-09-2013 07:27 PM

They might make him wear the D-Backs cap, like with Gary Carter and the 'spos.

xbignick 01-09-2013 07:30 PM

Why doesn't he belong in, because of wins? Great numbers, great rates, long career, and certainly had peak years. I'd put him with the Phillies.

RedSoxFan28 01-09-2013 07:36 PM

I think he should get in, and either Arizona or Boston :)

HadWayTooMuch 01-09-2013 07:39 PM

Here's the thing. He spent 4 years in AZ and 4 years in BOS. He spent 9 years in Philly.

Gary Carter spent 12 years in MON and 5 in NY and begged to go in as a Met. They told him know. You cannot justify letting Schilling choose his cap and not let Gary Carter do it.

But then again, that's logical thinking...

If you look at Schilling's numbers throughout his career, he was not dominant long enough to be a HOFer. Yeah, great post-season. But post-season alone does not get you into the HOF. Check out his numbers, you'll see.

xbignick 01-09-2013 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;3991796]Here's the thing. He spent 4 years in AZ and 4 years in BOS. He spent 9 years in Philly.

Gary Carter spent 12 years in MON and 5 in NY and begged to go in as a Met. They told him know. You cannot justify letting Schilling choose his cap and not let Gary Carter do it.

But then again, that's logical thinking...

If you look at Schilling's numbers throughout his career, he was not dominant long enough to be a HOFer. Yeah, great post-season. But post-season alone does not get you into the HOF.[B] Check out his numbers, you'll see.[/B][/QUOTE]

Not sure what you're looking at but his numbers are there:
[url]http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fangraphs.com%2Fstatss.aspx%3Fplayerid%3D73%26position%3DP&ei=1hHuUJOPPOi40AGKqYHoDg&usg=AFQjCNF4EXTnXGENRq2EF0isqut-2VBCuQ&bvm=bv.1357316858,d.dmQ[/url]

death2redemptions 01-09-2013 08:01 PM

If he gets in I hope it is as a D-Back

AUTaxMan 01-09-2013 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=IamRalpho;3991502]Oh, you must have been a voter today because that sounds like the insightful rationale they used today :confused:[/QUOTE]

I follow the stats pretty closely, so I have that going for me as well. :)!

xbignick 01-09-2013 08:27 PM

[QUOTE=AUTaxMan;3992197]I follow the stats pretty closely, so I have that going for me as well. :)![/QUOTE]

You have a memory bank in your head you can recall accurately and think about all in five seconds or less? Boy!

Bader 01-09-2013 08:33 PM

I vote Schilling for Jay Johnstone's Hall of Sports Bloopers and that's about it!

Bloody sock...please he picked a scab in between innings and made his ankle bleed, exscuse me while I call CNN

Tugarpj 01-09-2013 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=Bader;3992269]I vote Schilling for Jay Johnstone's Hall of Sports Bloopers and that's about it!

Bloody sock...please he picked a scab in between innings and made his ankle bleed, exscuse me while I call CNN[/QUOTE]

Savini avatar. Sweet!

Bader 01-09-2013 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=Tugarpj;3992279]Savini avatar. Sweet![/QUOTE]

Thanks!...he was a very cool person to meet

GoBeavs 01-09-2013 08:44 PM

While maybe not a sure-fire "first balloter" like Randy, Greg, or Pedro; he's definitely in the next tier with Pettite, Smoltz & Glavine for that era. All are pitchers I'd consider worthy. I think he should go in with a Philbacksox hat.

IamRalpho 01-09-2013 09:07 PM

Going to be interesting to see what Clemens wears, it needs to be the B. I think that is why he has been so friendly and involved with the Sox lately, he knows where his legacy will be going forward.

Even if Schilling wears a Phillies or Dbacks hat, gonna be one of the most important players in Sox history

death2redemptions 01-09-2013 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=IamRalpho;3992581]Going to be interesting to see what Clemens wears, it needs to be the B. I think that is why he has been so friendly and involved with the Sox lately, he knows where his legacy will be going forward.

Even if Schilling wears a Phillies or Dbacks hat, gonna be one of the most important players in Sox history[/QUOTE]

Clemens won't get in...

HadWayTooMuch 01-09-2013 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=xbignick;3991938]Not sure what you're looking at but his numbers are there:
[url]http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fangraphs.com%2Fstatss.aspx%3Fplayerid%3D73%26position%3DP&ei=1hHuUJOPPOi40AGKqYHoDg&usg=AFQjCNF4EXTnXGENRq2EF0isqut-2VBCuQ&bvm=bv.1357316858,d.dmQ[/url][/QUOTE]

First of all, we all know it's subjective. You can read a stat one way and I can read the same stat another way.

Here is how I read his stats:

I see a guy that pitched for 18 seasons and this is what I see:
[LIST][*]3 times - won 20 games[*]5 times - won more than 15 games[*]8 times - ERA below 3.50[*]0 Cy Young Awards[*]6 time all star[*]216 wins[/LIST]
Nothing to be ashamed of. Definitely belongs in the Hall of Very Good, without a doubt.

Problem is, it's called Hall of Fame.

Put Schilling in and we have to start talking about Bob Welch, which I don't want to do.

Hall of Very Good

RedSoxFan28 01-09-2013 09:57 PM

Schilling also is ranked 18th all time for CY Young Award Shares, he is the only person in the top 28 not to win a Cy Yound Award.


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