Curt Schilling Question

HadWayTooMuch · 01-09-2013, 04:29 PM

Now I don't think Schilling is a HOFer, but many people are acting like his post-season and his bloody sock will get him in.

My question is this. If he gets in, what hat does he wear? Remember, he does not choose. I had written this awhile back. Any thoughts?

Curt Schilling Article

mainerunr · 01-09-2013, 05:03 PM

Non issue, he does not belong in the Hall.

If he does get in, it will be because of what he did with the Red Sox, not what he did in his career so I could see him going in with a Sox hat.

mgugs46 · 01-09-2013, 05:08 PM

My guess is he gets in eventually. 200+ wins, an amazing post season performer (not just in Boston) with 3,000+ K's.

HadWayTooMuch · 01-09-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mainerunr

Non issue, he does not belong in the Hall.

If he does get in, it will be because of what he did with the Red Sox, not what he did in his career so I could see him going in with a Sox hat.

I agree, but a lot of "experts" believe he's worthy. I have my serious doubts!

I wrote this about 3 years ago when Andre Dawson was going in. I guess I'm stuck on the Gary Carter thing:

Andre Dawson Shouldn't Have A Choice What Cap To Wear In Cooperstown

IamRalpho · 01-09-2013, 05:49 PM

Hes going to get in because his peak was so high, what he did during the post season and the fact he went to Boston and then they won.

The Hall chooses, so my guess is either Arizona or Boston.

marl1220 · 01-09-2013, 06:37 PM

The answer is yes, he's a fat, drama queen of a d-bag.... Sorry, what was the question again?

IamRalpho · 01-09-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

The answer is yes, he's a fat, drama queen of a d-bag who is going to be in the Hall of Fame.... Sorry, what was the question again?

Fixed it for you

AUTaxMan · 01-09-2013, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

Now I don't think Schilling is a HOFer, but many people are acting like his post-season and his bloody sock will get him in.

My question is this. If he gets in, what hat does he wear? Remember, he does not choose. I had written this awhile back. Any thoughts?

Curt Schilling Article

Schilling doesn't pass my 5 second HOF test. If I have to think about whether or not someone is deserving for more than 5 seconds, they aren't.

IamRalpho · 01-09-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AUTaxMan

Schilling doesn't pass my 5 second HOF test. If I have to think about whether or not someone is deserving for more than 5 seconds, they aren't.

Oh, you must have been a voter today because that sounds like the insightful rationale they used today

rolewiii · 01-09-2013, 07:27 PM

They might make him wear the D-Backs cap, like with Gary Carter and the 'spos.

xbignick · 01-09-2013, 07:30 PM

Why doesn't he belong in, because of wins? Great numbers, great rates, long career, and certainly had peak years. I'd put him with the Phillies.

RedSoxFan28 · 01-09-2013, 07:36 PM

I think he should get in, and either Arizona or Boston

HadWayTooMuch · 01-09-2013, 07:39 PM

Here's the thing. He spent 4 years in AZ and 4 years in BOS. He spent 9 years in Philly.

Gary Carter spent 12 years in MON and 5 in NY and begged to go in as a Met. They told him know. You cannot justify letting Schilling choose his cap and not let Gary Carter do it.

But then again, that's logical thinking...

If you look at Schilling's numbers throughout his career, he was not dominant long enough to be a HOFer. Yeah, great post-season. But post-season alone does not get you into the HOF. Check out his numbers, you'll see.

xbignick · 01-09-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

Here's the thing. He spent 4 years in AZ and 4 years in BOS. He spent 9 years in Philly.

Gary Carter spent 12 years in MON and 5 in NY and begged to go in as a Met. They told him know. You cannot justify letting Schilling choose his cap and not let Gary Carter do it.

But then again, that's logical thinking...

If you look at Schilling's numbers throughout his career, he was not dominant long enough to be a HOFer. Yeah, great post-season. But post-season alone does not get you into the HOF. Check out his numbers, you'll see.

Not sure what you're looking at but his numbers are there:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...57316858,d.dmQ

death2redemptions · 01-09-2013, 08:01 PM

If he gets in I hope it is as a D-Back

AUTaxMan · 01-09-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Oh, you must have been a voter today because that sounds like the insightful rationale they used today

I follow the stats pretty closely, so I have that going for me as well.

xbignick · 01-09-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AUTaxMan

I follow the stats pretty closely, so I have that going for me as well.

You have a memory bank in your head you can recall accurately and think about all in five seconds or less? Boy!

Bader · 01-09-2013, 08:33 PM

I vote Schilling for Jay Johnstone's Hall of Sports Bloopers and that's about it!

Bloody sock...please he picked a scab in between innings and made his ankle bleed, exscuse me while I call CNN

Tugarpj · 01-09-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bader

I vote Schilling for Jay Johnstone's Hall of Sports Bloopers and that's about it!

Bloody sock...please he picked a scab in between innings and made his ankle bleed, exscuse me while I call CNN

Savini avatar. Sweet!

Bader · 01-09-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tugarpj

Savini avatar. Sweet!

Thanks!...he was a very cool person to meet

GoBeavs · 01-09-2013, 08:44 PM

While maybe not a sure-fire "first balloter" like Randy, Greg, or Pedro; he's definitely in the next tier with Pettite, Smoltz & Glavine for that era. All are pitchers I'd consider worthy. I think he should go in with a Philbacksox hat.

IamRalpho · 01-09-2013, 09:07 PM

Going to be interesting to see what Clemens wears, it needs to be the B. I think that is why he has been so friendly and involved with the Sox lately, he knows where his legacy will be going forward.

Even if Schilling wears a Phillies or Dbacks hat, gonna be one of the most important players in Sox history

death2redemptions · 01-09-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Going to be interesting to see what Clemens wears, it needs to be the B. I think that is why he has been so friendly and involved with the Sox lately, he knows where his legacy will be going forward.

Even if Schilling wears a Phillies or Dbacks hat, gonna be one of the most important players in Sox history

Clemens won't get in...

HadWayTooMuch · 01-09-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xbignick

Not sure what you're looking at but his numbers are there:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...57316858,d.dmQ

First of all, we all know it's subjective. You can read a stat one way and I can read the same stat another way.

Here is how I read his stats:

I see a guy that pitched for 18 seasons and this is what I see:

3 times - won 20 games
5 times - won more than 15 games
8 times - ERA below 3.50
0 Cy Young Awards
6 time all star
216 wins

Nothing to be ashamed of. Definitely belongs in the Hall of Very Good, without a doubt.

Problem is, it's called Hall of Fame.

Put Schilling in and we have to start talking about Bob Welch, which I don't want to do.

Hall of Very Good

RedSoxFan28 · 01-09-2013, 09:57 PM

Schilling also is ranked 18th all time for CY Young Award Shares, he is the only person in the top 28 not to win a Cy Yound Award.

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HadWayTooMuch Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,746	Curt Schilling Question Now I don't think Schilling is a HOFer, but many people are acting like his post-season and his bloody sock will get him in. My question is this. If he gets in, what hat does he wear? Remember, he does not choose. I had written this awhile back. Any thoughts? Curt Schilling Article __________________ Check us out at www.sportscardmemories.com for those that remember the good old days before gloss, autographs and jersey cards. It will bring back memories of the good old days and we're not selling anything!

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IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 6,950 IamSilly	Hes going to get in because his peak was so high, what he did during the post season and the fact he went to Boston and then they won. The Hall chooses, so my guess is either Arizona or Boston. __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first Usually can only ship Monday or Friday, try my best to get it out earlier

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xbignick Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,489 xxBigNick God Bless!	Why doesn't he belong in, because of wins? Great numbers, great rates, long career, and certainly had peak years. I'd put him with the Phillies. __________________ Check out my eBay (xxbignick)! Listing a bunch of stuff so feel free to offer me a price on here! Currently Buying: 2010 Michael Choice Chrome Autographs

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RedSoxFan28 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 3,059 Brady=GOAT Brady_Is_God	I think he should get in, and either Arizona or Boston __________________ "I understand you live in Maine and idiocy,ignorance and stupidity is a part of daily life" - Gibberish (10/12/2012) "Welker: 2nd most drops in NFL last season, most drops in the postseason since 2008. Belichick knows." SB

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mainerunr Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,142	Non issue, he does not belong in the Hall. If he does get in, it will be because of what he did with the Red Sox, not what he did in his career so I could see him going in with a Sox hat.

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marl1220 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 129	The answer is yes, he's a fat, drama queen of a d-bag.... Sorry, what was the question again?

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rolewiii Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: The Rust Belt Posts: 156 rolewiii13 rolewiii	They might make him wear the D-Backs cap, like with Gary Carter and the 'spos.

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HadWayTooMuch Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,746	Here's the thing. He spent 4 years in AZ and 4 years in BOS. He spent 9 years in Philly. Gary Carter spent 12 years in MON and 5 in NY and begged to go in as a Met. They told him know. You cannot justify letting Schilling choose his cap and not let Gary Carter do it. But then again, that's logical thinking... If you look at Schilling's numbers throughout his career, he was not dominant long enough to be a HOFer. Yeah, great post-season. But post-season alone does not get you into the HOF. Check out his numbers, you'll see. __________________ Check us out at www.sportscardmemories.com for those that remember the good old days before gloss, autographs and jersey cards. It will bring back memories of the good old days and we're not selling anything!

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death2redemptions Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scottsdale Arizona Posts: 6,209 ddavisaz	If he gets in I hope it is as a D-Back __________________ If it is any consolation, I ignored the Death2redemptions tard months ago. he gets sad and starts lashing out and trying to hurt people....he doesn't troll, he just likes to lash out as if the internet was a real thing and hopes his words hurt....people like that are a waste of time ~ Gibberish

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Bader Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: PA Posts: 367	I vote Schilling for Jay Johnstone's Hall of Sports Bloopers and that's about it! Bloody sock...please he picked a scab in between innings and made his ankle bleed, exscuse me while I call CNN

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GoBeavs Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 990 flow20 joeflow	While maybe not a sure-fire "first balloter" like Randy, Greg, or Pedro; he's definitely in the next tier with Pettite, Smoltz & Glavine for that era. All are pitchers I'd consider worthy. I think he should go in with a Philbacksox hat.

01-09-2013, 09:07 PM	#22 (permalink)
IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 6,950 IamSilly	Going to be interesting to see what Clemens wears, it needs to be the B. I think that is why he has been so friendly and involved with the Sox lately, he knows where his legacy will be going forward. Even if Schilling wears a Phillies or Dbacks hat, gonna be one of the most important players in Sox history __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first Usually can only ship Monday or Friday, try my best to get it out earlier

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RedSoxFan28 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 3,059 Brady=GOAT Brady_Is_God	Schilling also is ranked 18th all time for CY Young Award Shares, he is the only person in the top 28 not to win a Cy Yound Award. __________________ "I understand you live in Maine and idiocy,ignorance and stupidity is a part of daily life" - Gibberish (10/12/2012) "Welker: 2nd most drops in NFL last season, most drops in the postseason since 2008. Belichick knows." SB

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