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Old 02-03-2013, 12:35 AM   #326 (permalink)
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Honestly I think if Arod did not sign this than the card isn't worth much at all, I mean if you have a 1/1 superfractor error card without the 1/1, the auto, or the superfractor tint to it you will have a hard time finding anyone to buy it. There is no value that can be attached to this card. It's worth however much you can sell it for.
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NO, NO, NO the part you are looking at is at the Top of the page. The cards that it is referring to when it says "All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels" are at the top of the page.

All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels:
~ Refractor #/500 ~ X-Fractor #/225 ~
~ NEW Blue #/150 ~ Gold #/50 ~ Red #/5 ~
~ Superfractor #1/1 ~ Printing Plates #1/1 (4)

The part that I copied from the bottom of the page then goes on to explain which parallels that the Arod Cards ARE found in that directly correlate to the exact same print runs as listed in the Beckett(minus the SF, XF,RF, and CH parts), correct?
Can't you just get to your point already? He won't agree with you at the end anyway.
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NO, NO, NO the part you are looking at is at the Top of the page. The cards that it is referring to when it says "All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels" are at the top of the page.

All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels:
~ Refractor #/500 ~ X-Fractor #/225 ~
~ NEW Blue #/150 ~ Gold #/50 ~ Red #/5 ~
~ Superfractor #1/1 ~ Printing Plates #1/1 (4)

The part that I copied from the bottom of the page then goes on to explain which parallels that the Arod Cards ARE found in that directly correlate to the exact same print runs as listed in the Beckett(minus the SF, XF,RF, and CH parts), do you agree?


I agree that perhaps that checklist is accurate except for the one part where it says

All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels:
~ Refractor #/500 ~ X-Fractor #/225 ~
~ NEW Blue #/150 ~ Gold #/50 ~ Red #/5 ~
~ Superfractor #1/1 ~ Printing Plates #1/1 (4) ~


And then the other part where it says

- All Cards Are Refractors - Print Run Shown Below -


And then of course like you said where the part says SF

Other than that it looks ok I guess.
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Come on Columbo, get on with it please.
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Cards not worth the cardboard it is printed on without the auto and sticker. Not the superfractor. You have nothing but a base AROD.
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So I don't entirely understand the situation here but it appears as though NO ONE has been able to produce or rind a card like the OPs? Is that correct? If that's true, while it may not be a 1/1, it is most certainly rare.

There's so much childish garbage that I don't care to read through everything....
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So I don't entirely understand the situation here but it appears as though NO ONE has been able to produce or rind a card like the OPs? Is that correct? If that's true, while it may not be a 1/1, it is most certainly rare.

There's so much childish garbage that I don't care to read through everything....
No I have one also, which I've posted numerous times.
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So I don't entirely understand the situation here but it appears as though NO ONE has been able to produce or rind a card like the OPs? Is that correct? If that's true, while it may not be a 1/1, it is most certainly rare.

There's so much childish garbage that I don't care to read through everything....

I am sorry for all the childish posts by others as it takes away from people who perhaps are interested in the card and what happened with it.

As far as I can tell it is pretty rare. There is one other gentleman here who says he has one of these cards as well but his is not graded and he has only ever posted a front scan of his and never posted a back scan as promised.

Other than that I have never seen another card like this.
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So I don't entirely understand the situation here but it appears as though NO ONE has been able to produce or rind a card like the OPs? Is that correct? If that's true, while it may not be a 1/1, it is most certainly rare.

There's so much childish garbage that I don't care to read through everything....
No, somebody else showed they had the same card, even scanned it and posted it on this very thread. All he has is a backdoored card worth almost nothing. It does not have an autograph, it isn't a superfractor nor does it have a 1/1 stamp so it is nothing more than a backdoored A-Roid base card.
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No I have one also, which I've posted numerous times.
Better post the back scan. You promised.
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No I have one also, which I've posted numerous times.

Well again to be fair you posted a front scan of yours and said you would post a back scan as well and that was almost a year ago I think and you never did.

You also said you would check to see if yours had stickers on the back as you said you could not recall at the time and would check on that as well, and never did.

I really wish you would be able to check on these things and think it would help.

Truthfully if yours is legit that just makes this twice as bad for Topps.
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No I have one also, which I've posted numerous times.
Why didn't you post the back of the card? Isn't that where all the good stuff is usually??
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does worthpoint let you look at old auctions?
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The second checklist that you claim is inaccurate pertaining to the parts where it lists the Throwback Autos as being, CH(not sure what that means), RF being the "Refractor" , XF being the "X-Fractor", and SF being the "Superfractor" versions, is indeed accurate and here is why.

Here is one of the versions as stated in the Beckett price guide and the Sportscardradio checklists as being the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #97AR 1997 CH #/99

As stated above I am not sure what CH means but Im sure that it applies here. .




Notice how it is serial numbered STAMPED /99 as stated on both checklists and also has the correct authentication sticker.


Now here is one of the verisons stated in both checklists as the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #96AR 1996 RF #/50



Notice how this card is indeed a REFRACTOR version, and is indeed stamped #/50 and has the correct authentication sticker as well.

Now here is one of the versions stated in both checklists as the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #95AR 1995 XF #/25



Notice how it is indeed an X-FRACTOR verison and is stamped #/25 and has the correct sticker authentication as well.


Now, you would have to agree that both checklists are 100% accurate even when it pertains to the "CH", "RF", "XF", and "SF" as well.





Now, here comes the complication that has you confused.

All that is left is the version listed as the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #94AR 1994 SF #1/1

Now, here is the Superfractor that is listed under the Base parallels of this card from the same checklist listed here at the bottom of the page.
2005 Bowman Chrome Baseball Box - Complete Set Checklist

Base Cards - 4 Per Box
Parallel Cards: Refractor #/499 - X-Fractor #/99
- SuperFractors #1/1 -



I do not understand the PSA labeling when it says "Auto. Rep." as I do not deal in graded cards and am not sure on the wording. But the Superfractor 1/1 base version of the A-Rod Throwback Base #94AR 1994 exists, why are you convinced that the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #94AR 1994 SF #1/1 on the same checklist, that is clearly accurate, does not exist?
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CH is Chrome
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The second checklist that you claim is inaccurate pertaining to the parts where it lists the Throwback Autos as being, CH(not sure what that means), RF being the "Refractor" , XF being the "X-Fractor", and SF being the "Superfractor" versions, is indeed accurate and here is why.

Here is one of the versions as stated in the Beckett price guide and the Sportscardradio checklists as being the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #97AR 1997 CH #/99

As stated above I am not sure what CH means but Im sure that it applies here. .




Notice how it is serial numbered STAMPED /99 as stated on both checklists and also has the correct authentication sticker.


Now here is one of the verisons stated in both checklists as the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #96AR 1996 RF #/50



Notice how this card is indeed a REFRACTOR version, and is indeed stamped #/50 and has the correct authentication sticker as well.

Now here is one of the versions stated in both checklists as the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #95AR 1995 XF #/25



Notice how it is indeed an X-FRACTOR verison and is stamped #/25 and has the correct sticker authentication as well.


Now, you would have to agree that both checklists are 100% accurate even when it pertains to the "CH", "RF", "XF", and "SF" as well.





Now, here comes the complication that has you confused.

All that is left is the version listed as the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #94AR 1994 SF #1/1

Now, here is the Superfractor that is listed under the Base parallels of this card from the same checklist listed here at the bottom of the page.
2005 Bowman Chrome Baseball Box - Complete Set Checklist

Base Cards - 4 Per Box
Parallel Cards: Refractor #/499 - X-Fractor #/99
- SuperFractors #1/1 -



I do not understand the PSA labeling when it says "Auto. Rep." as I do not deal in graded cards and am not sure on the wording. But the Superfractor 1/1 base version of the A-Rod Throwback Base #94AR 1994 exists, why are you convinced that the A-Rod Throwback Autographs #94AR 1994 SF #1/1 on the same checklist, that is clearly accurate, does not exist?

Wow you did quite a bit of research. The first cards you posted all seem to be refractors and xfractors I guess but i don't know much about those cards and it would appear that the part of the checklist is accurate.

I don't know what CH means either on the first card.

The last PSA card you posted I think is from Bowman and not Bowman Chrome and it does not appear to be the autograph version but again am not sure what card that is.
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Hmm...let's try this again

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CH stands for Chrome
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Wow you did quite a bit of research. The first cards you posted all seem to be refractors and xfractors I guess but i don't know much about those cards and it would appear that the part of the checklist is accurate.

I don't know what CH means either on the first card.

The last PSA card you posted I think is from Bowman and not Bowman Chrome and it does not appear to be the autograph version but again am not sure what card that is.
Like I said, there is no getting through to this guy even if all the evidence is shoved down his throat.

That last PSA card is from Bowman Chrome, those A-Rod throwbacks were only inserted in Bowman Chrome, not regular Bowman and do you not know what a superfractor looks like? That is CLEARLY a superfractor and Rep stands for "Reprint" as it is a reprint of the 1994 Bowman card.

Also, CH stands for "Chrome"
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You may be correct about the SF photo at the bottom being Bowman and Not bowman Chrome. I do not collect those products so I am not aware of the difference. Since the rest of the checklist is accurate, why are you convinced that the only part that is a mistake the "SF" part and that the Superfractor auto Bowman chrome version does not exist?
Because there is only version of the 94 card and if there is a superfractor what would card would mine be?

Thats the part I don't understand.
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Hmm...let's try this again

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CH stands for Chrome

Oh cool thanks
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