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Old 02-01-2013, 05:14 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I know this is just gonna get ignored, but check out this link OP:

http://www.blowoutcards.com/images/b...anchromeBB.pdf

That checklist does show the card I have, it would be the 94A-AR autograph version.

In that checklist, there are cards listed as Autographs: A-Rod Throwback Autographed Base Cards. There is a card in there numbered 95A-AR. This is the same as your card.

Now take a look at this card: http://5d71665d9f7fef06a3f8-63ac50ea...back-image.jpg

The back of this card I don't think is the autograph version.

This is the back of one of the parallel versions of the non auto'd cards from this set. Note that it has both a serial number, and the word refractor on it. Your card has neither of these things.

My card wouldn't have that on the back because it is the autograph version.

This checklist was preliminary, meaning that it could have changed since then. Note that the parallel auto versions aren't on this checklist. I think that they meant to make base autos, for all years, but then ended up making a chrome for '97, refractor for '96, x-fractor for '95, and a superfractor for '94.

I have said this over and over and if you or someone would like they can verify this with Topps but there is no superfractor version of this card. This is the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card.

At some point they did make some of the base ones for '94, and they accidentally made their way into packs. I don't believe yours was backdoored. But, it was never meant to be a 1/1 and as such is not one.

Again I think you are mistaken, they did make arod throwback inserts and arod throwback autographs and again the card pictured is the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR and you can confirm this with Topps.


This explanation fits your beliefs that 1. Your card wasn't backdoored and came in a pack and 2. The 94 throwback version is supposed to be a 1/1. It doesn't fit you thinking you have the only one in existence though.
I have not seen another one like mine. I have seen someone post the front of a card like mine but they never followed through with a scan of the back of the card. They also said their card might have the stickers attached but again they never followed up to tell me if this was accurate or not.
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Put the friggin card in your will, leave it to your cousin and find your grave please!
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I have come to the conclusion this guy has got to be a troll. Trolls sometimes will act like an idiot on purpose for their own amusement. I don't know why it took so long for me to realize this. Don't let this troll get to you and give up on any rational thoughts you may have on this subject.
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per your quote Topps also says
"During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs."

Note the word error is never used.

They intended to make these cards.
They didnt intend to put them into packs.
Best guess is they were intended for player use.

lso per your quote "In December 2005 a reader wrote into Beckett magazine about this very card and Clay Luraschi from Topps responded"

Was it you ?
if not
Dont you think it odd someone would write to topps about one of these,
if there was only 1 of them.

Derp ?


Isn't the card being unsigned and inserted into a packs the very definition of it being an error?

I think perhaps you are interpreting what was said wrong and if you would like you can verify this with Topps.

Also it was not me who wrote into Beckett but it was the guy I got the card from who did.
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Why do you not believe there ever was a superfractor
Because the card pictured is the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card. It is the only card from that set it can be therfore there would be no superfractor version of this card.

This can also be verified with Topps.
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I have come to the conclusion this guy has got to be a troll. Trolls sometimes will act like an idiot on purpose for their own amusement. I don't know why it took so long for me to realize this. Don't let this troll get to you and give up on any rational thoughts you may have on this subject.

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People....go talk to your toliet. You will get it to understand much easier than you will the OP?
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See here is your problem. You are trying to use common sense with this fellow. You will get so frustrated you will resort to using Black Tar Heroin.

You would have an easier job getting Raymond Babbitt to miss Judge Wapner
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Having known the OP for years and years, you guys are all idiots for attempting to argue or even humoring his thoughts.

He is David Peters....a man like no other. Don't waste your time.
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Honestly, the OP is smarter than 75% of the people on this board and 50% posting in this thread...
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I have not seen another one like mine. I have seen someone post the front of a card like mine but they never followed through with a scan of the back of the card. They also said their card might have the stickers attached but again they never followed up to tell me if this was accurate or not.
Ok, if said person posted a scan of the back of their card would you stop calling yours a 1/1?
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Now will someone just post a picture of a penis to get this thread closed???
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Now will someone just post a picture of a penis to get this thread closed???
Screw that, I will kill everyone in the US named Dave Peters instead
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Ok, if said person posted a scan of the back of their card would you stop calling yours a 1/1?
I would I guess? not sure why it is so important I not call it a 1/1 since Topps says it is a 1/1.
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Now will someone just post a picture of a penis to get this thread closed???
You know you aren't legally obliged to continue reading this thread, right?
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Screw that, I will kill everyone in the US named Dave Peters instead
I reported you.

Will some of you people stop the nonsense. If you don't know about the card or don;t care about it that is fine but please stop spoiling it for people who do care and are interested.

What is wrong with some of you?
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I would I guess? not sure why it is so important I not call it a 1/1 since Topps says it is a 1/1.
Link us to please where Topps confirmed that there is only 1 of this exact card made?

Or are you just saying that Topps said it is the only one they have seen, therefore twisting their words to say that it is a 1/1.
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I reported you.

Will some of you people stop the nonsense. If you don't know about the card or don;t care about it that is fine but please stop spoiling it for people who do care and are interested.

What is wrong with some of you?
Well that's the thing, NOBODY cares or is interested in that $2-$3 card you have got. Your trying to promote this card as being worth thousands of dollars yet it is not. But that's okay troll keep trolling
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Isn't the card being unsigned and inserted into a packs the very definition of it being an error?

I think perhaps you are interpreting what was said wrong and if you would like you can verify this with Topps.

Also it was not me who wrote into Beckett but it was the guy I got the card from who did.
No it doesnt. You quoted his reply. The word error is not used.
Topps routinely makes cards for player use.
The only "error" is that it made it into packs.
I have also shown you the NON auto version of the superfractor.

So lets make sure we have all the facts straight shall we?
There IS a non au Chrome Superfractor
But you refuse to believe the AU version is also a superfractor despite being listed as SF

Your card has no auto ,no stickers, no 1/1 stamp, isnt a superfractor and topps stated an unknown number of the cards like yours were inserted into packs.

therefore yours is the true 1/1 auto

Furthermore, despite the fact that you didnt pull it from a pack youve been after Topps for some 8 years to get them to have it autod stickered and stamped as the true 1/1, despite them saying they know dang well they accidentally inserted an unknown number of them into packs

And of course when someone else show you a pic of another card just like yours, it is immediatley dismissed.

There IS a non supe 1/1 auto as well. But its listed as BOWMAN (not chrome)
This is also NOT your card.

My only purpose here is to show others exactly what type of person you are.
I dont expect to convince you of anything.
So argue this all you like.
You are only hurting yourself.

PS Good luck with the fake Mantle and Dimaggio autos you were trying to sell!
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maybe if we all stop arguing with him, he will go away? lol....
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You know you aren't legally obliged to continue reading this thread, right?
Quite the contrary, the government has sent me in as a secret spy to make sure Dave Peters doesn't scam anyone with this card. This is a top secret mission and I will end up in prison for 200 years if he ends up selling it for more than $20. Please don't tell Dave Peters about my top secret mission...oh wait
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Link us to please where Topps confirmed that there is only 1 of this exact card made?

Or are you just saying that Topps said it is the only one they have seen, therefore twisting their words to say that it is a 1/1.
The Topps checklists for this set confirms it is a 1/1. I have included a full scan and there is no other card this card could be other than the 1/1 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card.

Like I have said repeatedly I believe that Beckett or perhaps Topps made the original error and listed this as a SF and it was copied and pasted to numerous other sites and was never corrected.
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The Topps checklists for this set confirms it is a 1/1.
No..the checklist confirms that there was a 1/1 auto made....it does NOTHING to confirm that the card you have (and others also apparantly have) is THAT card. The only thing confirming your card as the 1/1 is your delusion.
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Dave "aka MrBong" Peters must have smoked some weed laced with PCP and now he is going on some psychotic rant about a card featuring another drug addict
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I would I guess? not sure why it is so important I not call it a 1/1 since Topps says it is a 1/1.
No topps said your card was one of an
"unknown number of unsigned cards" that "were accidentally inserted into packs"
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Dave Peters please take some tranquillizers (i.e. Valium) to help you come down off this PCP trip. Your delusions have taken over!!!
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