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Old 03-07-2013, 04:35 PM   #26 (permalink)
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All of those supers look too large, at least the borders do.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:41 PM   #27 (permalink)
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All of those supers look too large, at least the borders do.
Probably sheet cut?
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:45 PM   #28 (permalink)
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What's to stop someone from buying it, trimming it, getting it signed IP from that player and trying to re-sell as the real deal?

Raises all sorts of ethical questions
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:46 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Could be... Why not post a picture of the paper work that topps would have sent if they were from the vault? I thought I have seen these types of letters on other listings for items redeemed from topps.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:49 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Everyone needs to get in the habit of quoting him if they see an actual post from him
I am bored so I had to go back and re-read where he accused me of being a scam artist again. Good times. Here is one of the quotes:

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What you all need to realize is that this was a scam orchestrated by both the op and cashner in order to advertise the sale of the ONE Harper card that THEY are trying to sell. It was a clever and devious attempt at marketing this card that blew way out of proportion when cashner f 'ed up and posted that bogus picture of a photocopied print out with the same white speck as ages, although the speck is not actually on the real card and was just from ages scanner, so there should be no white spec in cash's picture holding real card, especially since he was advertising the card as a 9.5They were both in on this from the get go and both need to be exposed. You can say what you will about prior deals you've done with age or cash but they don't mean jack! They both got those positive feedbacks by doing good deals, but that doesn't mean they're not capable of screwing you over if they needed the money!

And here is the thread (warning, it is really long, read at your own risk)
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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man i searched this guy's available items and almost every single one is just some fake picture that he copied and then printed onto his own paper...none have backs, come on man, how does ebay all this guy to list all of this stuff
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I am bored so I had to go back and re-read where he accused me of being a scam artist again. Good times. Here is one of the quotes:

Originally Posted by luck15hope
What you all need to realize is that this was a scam orchestrated by both the op and cashner in order to advertise the sale of the ONE Harper card that THEY are trying to sell. It was a clever and devious attempt at marketing this card that blew way out of proportion when cashner f 'ed up and posted that bogus picture of a photocopied print out with the same white speck as ages, although the speck is not actually on the real card and was just from ages scanner, so there should be no white spec in cash's picture holding real card, especially since he was advertising the card as a 9.5They were both in on this from the get go and both need to be exposed. You can say what you will about prior deals you've done with age or cash but they don't mean jack! They both got those positive feedbacks by doing good deals, but that doesn't mean they're not capable of screwing you over if they needed the money!

And here is the thread (warning, it is really long, read at your own risk)
Identical Harper Cards ??
He's a troll. He has accused many people of being scam artists and he is ALWAYS wrong. In the end everyone gives him crap, he edits his posts and then disappears.
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What's to stop someone from buying it, trimming it, getting it signed IP from that player and trying to re-sell as the real deal?

Raises all sorts of ethical questions
My thoughts exactly! Where these really redemptions??? Do these actually hold some sort of value??? Is this considered a 'superfractor'??? So many questions.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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it could be that these are backdoored by topps to maintain a pricepoint and demand. then again, maybe a lot of lucky people.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:19 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Is this the 'poor mans' superfractor?
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:26 PM   #37 (permalink)
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The guy thats selling the soler and darvish has all kinds of proof cards and vault cards...very weird.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:28 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I personally love the $3 surcharge for shipping, just to put the icing on the cake
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:18 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I would love to hold one of those cards in hand and feel if there's a difference with the regular superfractors (ie, is it a proof on paper or actual chrome stock)
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Im positive this seller was the same guy who had all the SI first edition 1/1's as well just recently.. It was very hard for me to believe those weren't backdoored fakes because of the sheer number he had for sale(good portion of the whole checklist) so where is this guy obtaining all these??
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:25 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I made an offer and he countered with 1 penny off! Lol



My offer was $10 btw haha
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:04 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I made an offer and he countered with 1 penny off! Lol



My offer was $10 btw haha
Who doesn't put auto decline on a $3K listing? I understand you having some fun with him in his instance but I'll let eBay stop nonsense $10 offers on my $1000 Soler orange from coming in.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:32 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Check this out
(5) 2010-2011 Bowman Platinum Superfractor/Refractor/Auto Sheets with Harper & Trout
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WOW! How did those sheets get out? .........
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:45 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I bet those are where the Sano and Trevor May along with the other unnumbered supers came from.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:53 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Kept offering on the Soler but he never responds
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:00 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Does "backdoored" apply when Topps offers uncut sheets like this in replacement for screw-ups / out of stock items from time to time? Because I know thats how some of these uncut sheets have hit the market. If the person decides to have them cut and calls them "test issue" or something along those lines, I'm not really sure I find much fault in that, as long as they aren't trying to pass them off as the real thing. Topps shouldn't be issuing these to people for any reason if they have a problem with people doing this. Just my opinion.
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Can this be legal? I mean could Topps not file a lawsuit or no? It obviously came from those uncut sheets.
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:38 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I seriously hope these sheets have blank backs...otherwise, I may never again trust another superfractor. IP or professionally faked auto + easily replicated 1/1 stamp = hobby sh*tstorm
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:04 PM   #50 (permalink)
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well now there all in auction style format! wonder what they will end at???
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