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Old 03-18-2013, 04:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Who is the most underrated player in baseball?

A strong case can be made for David Price, starting pitcher for the Tampa Bay Rays.
In the past 3 years in the big leagues he has:

* thrown over 200 innings every year
* averaged 200 k's per year
* won 51 games on a team that ranks at or near the bottom in runs scored
*won a CY Young
*been voted by his peers(the ones who have to hit the ball) as the best pitcher in the AL for 2 of the past 3 years

Price has a better win % and lifetime era than Verlander, his only real competition for current top dog. Verlander throws more innings but that is most likely a product of management philosophy than ability.
At 27 years of age, David Price looks to be building a HOF type career. His health may be the only thing that can stop this train.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree with Price. I think Beltre is a bit underrated. I never really seem to hear his name when the top current players are being talked about.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A strong case can be made for David Price, starting pitcher for the Tampa Bay Rays.
Always hard to gauge who is under/overrated. It doesn't help Price that he plays for the Rays - Ben Zobrist is largely ignored too.

Levon Helm was underrated too!
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Price is definitely most underrated. Case could be made for Joey Votto.
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I also think Price is highly underrated, especially based on what I suspect he will do in the coming years.
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Price, Zobrist, Beltre are all great nominations. I think Konerko is underrated as well. All the guy does is produce consistently year in & year out.
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Isn't price always considered a top 5 pitcher and one of the best players in MLB? I think maybe underrated but not by that much. I think Tyler Clippard could be.
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Votto, underated? He's not underated or under payed. ( I hate saying this BUT) he plays in Cincinnati.
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Beltre losing the All Star vote to Cabrera, who is an average at best defensive 3rd baseman, shows how underrated Beltre is. Particularly when he was having one of his best offensive years in his career. Its okay.....as a Ranger fan I'd rather have people underrate Beltre and the rest of the roster. Keep thinking that Elvis Andrus should give up his job to Profar.....doesn't bother me a bit.
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Isn't price always considered a top 5 pitcher and one of the best players in MLB? I think maybe underrated but not by that much. I think Tyler Clippard could be.
tyler clippard had a 3.7 era as a closer. what makes him underrated? i don't think he's bad, but isn't anything that special where he should get more love. He's a good player.
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I don't know about MOST underrated but here are a list of players I feel don't get enough love for what they do:
Paul Goldschmidt Last year: .286 avg 20 HR 82 RBI 18 SB and he continues to get better. He'll have many years where he hits 30+ HR and 90-100 RBI.
Martin Prado - In four of his five full seasons in the majors he has batted over .300 and can play any position except catcher.

Also I agree Price and Beltre are underrated
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tyler clippard had a 3.7 era as a closer. what makes him underrated? i don't think he's bad, but isn't anything that special where he should get more love. He's a good player.
He wasn't great last year, though I think he fell into the closer role anyway, but he's been abused by the Nats over the past three years. He may not be a superstar but he's definitely underrated imo. Every team could use a player like him.
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A strong case can be made for David Price, starting pitcher for the Tampa Bay Rays.
In the past 3 years in the big leagues he has:

* thrown over 200 innings every year
* averaged 200 k's per year
* won 51 games on a team that ranks at or near the bottom in runs scored
*won a CY Young
*been voted by his peers(the ones who have to hit the ball) as the best pitcher in the AL for 2 of the past 3 years

Price has a better win % and lifetime era than Verlander, his only real competition for current top dog. Verlander throws more innings but that is most likely a product of management philosophy than ability.
At 27 years of age, David Price looks to be building a HOF type career. His health may be the only thing that can stop this train.
Can you be underrated if you win a Cy Young? Regardless, I've seen lots of coverage on Price, and it's all been glowing. He's well known on a national basis as being one of the best in the AL.
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A strong case can be made for David Price, starting pitcher for the Tampa Bay Rays.
In the past 3 years in the big leagues he has:

* thrown over 200 innings every year
* averaged 200 k's per year
* won 51 games on a team that ranks at or near the bottom in runs scored
*won a CY Young
*been voted by his peers(the ones who have to hit the ball) as the best pitcher in the AL for 2 of the past 3 years

Price has a better win % and lifetime era than Verlander, his only real competition for current top dog. Verlander throws more innings but that is most likely a product of management philosophy than ability.
At 27 years of age, David Price looks to be building a HOF type career. His health may be the only thing that can stop this train.

Jered Weavers #s are almost identical over the last 3 years to Price. Weavers ERA is a little lower. Both have won 51 games.

I agree with Death2repemdtions on Prado. All around solid player.

Most Seattle fans would disagree about Beltre... That said he has turned it on the since leaving SEA and is beast on the field and at the plate.

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McCutchen is pretty underrated. Adam Jones and Chris Davis don't really get much respect for the O's. But I think the most underrated player- atleast most underrated pitcher is Jared Weaver. He has had some pretty solid seasons and never seems to get much respect.
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think he may mean value wise. If so Price chromes go WAY cheaper than Verlander...

I would also agree with the Prado statement.

Besides those 2 I would go out on a limb and say Adam Laroche.. He seems to jump team to team every year (except this year), and seems to always have good stats and produce.
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Beltre losing the All Star vote to Cabrera, who is an average at best defensive 3rd baseman, shows how underrated Beltre is. Particularly when he was having one of his best offensive years in his career. Its okay.....as a Ranger fan I'd rather have people underrate Beltre and the rest of the roster. Keep thinking that Elvis Andrus should give up his job to Profar.....doesn't bother me a bit.
Beltre didn't lose the All-Star vote to Cabrera.....(and the All-Star game is rather irrelevant, and since it's a game of stars, it would've made more sense if Cabrera started)

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How can the Cy Young be underrated? I think he is getting his just dues.

Last year I'd say Ian Desmond can put up a decent argument. Ian Desmond Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
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What about Yovanni Gallardo? Puts up 200 Ks a year, mid 3s ERA, and 15+ wins, never gets talked about.
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A strong case can be made for David Price, starting pitcher for the Tampa Bay Rays.
In the past 3 years in the big leagues he has:

* thrown over 200 innings every year
* averaged 200 k's per year
* won 51 games on a team that ranks at or near the bottom in runs scored
*won a CY Young
*been voted by his peers(the ones who have to hit the ball) as the best pitcher in the AL for 2 of the past 3 years

Price has a better win % and lifetime era than Verlander, his only real competition for current top dog. Verlander throws more innings but that is most likely a product of management philosophy than ability.At 27 years of age, David Price looks to be building a HOF type career. His health may be the only thing that can stop this train.
Ummm, no. Pitchers get pulled generally when they experience fatigue. If Price had to pitch to the same workload as Verlander, you would Price's numbers blow up. When pitchers fatigue, even the best become hittable. It's my main argument against Gio at the moment. No one can doubt Gio's skills through 6 innings, but if he had to go 7-8 innings, his stats would like very mortal.

Reality: Both the AL and NL Cy Young winners in 2012 stole the award. Should have been repeat awards for Kershaw and Verlander.

Most underrated? I would say Shin-Soo Choo.
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Some are confusing underrated in the hobby with underrated in the real world.
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Hanley ramirez or miguel cabrera hands down imo
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Verlander throws more innings but that is most likely a product of management philosophy than ability.
Not even close.
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I'll stick with the theme and pick a few homer players - underrated by definition pretty much means up the middle defensive specialist, so I'll say:

Carlos Gomez
Jonathan Lucroy (pitch framing Padawan to Jose Molina's Jedi Master)


EDIT: Is this thread meant for in real life or in the hobby? Mine are obviously for real life.
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Some are confusing underrated in the hobby with underrated in the real world.

I don't think people are confused at all given that the OP did not really state as to what the underrated was referring to
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