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Old 08-14-2013, 09:52 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Sucked in by the hype machine and the chance at a refractor hot box in my case! Dang all of you!
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Sucked in by the hype machine and the chance at a refractor hot box in my case! Dang all of you!
Hopefully they're more than just base refractors again. The addition of boxtoppers should have also enticed you.
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:06 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Hoping to see David Phelps and maybe Zoilo Almonte added. Probably get David Adams and Preston Claiborne.

Do Segura or Iwakuma have a TC yet?
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In case anyone else was looking to get a case, BO doesnt have them available at the moment. How high is the price going to jump?

Was $755
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I'll say $850. For now.
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In case anyone else was looking to get a case, BO doesnt have them available at the moment. How high is the price going to jump?

Was $755
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I'll say $850. For now.
Depends, do you mean before release or overall?

I think before release, it hits around 850, yea. After release? Could skyrocket, 4 digits at least.
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BO has them back at $755 for now - this might be my first ever sealed flip if predictions above are close to correct...
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BO has them back at $755 for now - this might be my first ever sealed flip if predictions above are close to correct...
Will all depend on the checklis. Last year, Harper/Darvish/Cespedes was enough to get it to 1300. Helped that it was a good product too.

As long as at least Puig/Myers/maybe Fernandez/and Machado are in it as autos, we will see close to that again.
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Since the refractor hot box info didn't have "new" beside it on the sell sheet, does anyone have any info on how these fell in the past? 1 per hobby case?
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Since the refractor hot box info didn't have "new" beside it on the sell sheet, does anyone have any info on how these fell in the past? 1 per hobby case?
1 every 3 hobby cases.
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1 every 3 hobby cases.
Aha - thanks! So you're saying there's a chance...
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Aha - thanks! So you're saying there's a chance...
From what I remember last year, the hot boxes were pretty much all base refractors with a couple colors sprinkled in.
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I think before release, it hits around 850, yea. After release? Could skyrocket, 4 digits at least.

more likely it will stagnate because too many people will be trying to flip it
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Aha - thanks! So you're saying there's a chance...
looks like about a 1 in 3 chance

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From what I remember last year, the hot boxes were pretty much all base refractors with a couple colors sprinkled in.
Basically yea. Every base card is replaced with a refractor. All the normal color refractors and hits and inserts are all in there.

Makes for a pretty good box ROI wise haha. Worst case you've got about 90 refractors, a couple colors and 2 autos.
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more likely it will stagnate because too many people will be trying to flip it
Wouldn't say that is more likely. I get that market prices are substantially affected by supply and demand, but the demand will be there for this it seems, and you are assuming that too many people will always be trying to flip it.

Topps Chrome from last year is 1-2 months to get there. Hardly any products go up that high right from the start.

HOWEVER, IF Puig autos are live. I think it will happen. Doubt it though.
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Wouldn't say that is more likely. I get that market prices are substantially affected by supply and demand, but the demand will be there for this it seems, and you are assuming that too many people will always be trying to flip it.

Topps Chrome from last year is 1-2 months to get there. Hardly any products go up that high right from the start.

HOWEVER, IF Puig autos are live. I think it will happen. Doubt it though.
I have a weird feeling his autos will be live.
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I have a weird feeling his autos will be live.
If they are, this stuff will probably shoot past last years by more than a few dollars.

Taking Puig out of the equation, this is a stronger auto group overall from top to (hypothetical) bottom than last year.

Once Topps finally releases the auto checklist (if they do), then we'll see how crazy these cases go.
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Nothing definitive yet.

But, why not. Here is my guess on the full auto checklist for rookies:

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Aaron Hicks
Adam Eaton
Adeny Hechavarria
Avisail Garcia
Brock Holt
Bruce Rondon
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Chris Archer
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Did Gregorius
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Mike Olt
Nate Freiman
Nick Franklin
Nick Maronde
Paco Rodriguez
Ryu-Hyun Jin
Shelby Miller
Tony Cingrani
Tyler Skaggs
Wil Myers
Yasiel Puig
Zack Wheeler
Thinking maybe JBJ will be in there as well! Also Ozuna maybe...
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Will all depend on the checklis. Last year, Harper/Darvish/Cespedes was enough to get it to 1300. Helped that it was a good product too.

As long as at least Puig/Myers/maybe Fernandez/and Machado are in it as autos, we will see close to that again.
IF this happens, I will have no choice but to flip the cases. I think I"m in at ~$700 a case, and at $1300, I'm set to make $1800

Granted, reality sets in, and even if this hits $1100, I very well may be inclined to sell. But...but...but, I just love Topps Chrome.

And agreed, I have a sinking suspicion Puig autos (if just some of them) will be live. I can't imagine Topps catching up with him and only asking him to sign Inception and Ginter. He will be extremely short-printed in this, as well, but heck, something nice should pop up in three cases...like the SUPER AUTO!
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IF this happens, I will have no choice but to flip the cases. I think I"m in at ~$700 a case, and at $1300, I'm set to make $1800

Granted, reality sets in, and even if this hits $1100, I very well may be inclined to sell. But...but...but, I just love Topps Chrome.

And agreed, I have a sinking suspicion Puig autos (if just some of them) will be live. I can't imagine Topps catching up with him and only asking him to sign Inception and Ginter. He will be extremely short-printed in this, as well, but heck, something nice should pop up in three cases...like the SUPER AUTO!
Where are you going to find a buyer?

Ebay?

If you sell 3 cases for $1300 each = $3900, you'll pay ebay $390 plus 3% more to paypal which is another $107 or so and you'll be at risk that the buyer will mess around with you.

I don't know if that's the direction I would feel comfortable going in.
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IF this happens, I will have no choice but to flip the cases. I think I"m in at ~$700 a case, and at $1300, I'm set to make $1800

Granted, reality sets in, and even if this hits $1100, I very well may be inclined to sell. But...but...but, I just love Topps Chrome.

And agreed, I have a sinking suspicion Puig autos (if just some of them) will be live. I can't imagine Topps catching up with him and only asking him to sign Inception and Ginter. He will be extremely short-printed in this, as well, but heck, something nice should pop up in three cases...like the SUPER AUTO!
I'll be ripping no matter the price of cases at release, I love Topps Chrome, and I don't flip cases anyway, busting is fun for me.

It could be a Harper situation like last year, where he just signs like the blues, but who really knows.
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I have a weird feeling his autos will be live.
Hopefully he signed the TC at the same time that he signed his Inception
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Where are you going to find a buyer?

Ebay?

If you sell 3 cases for $1300 each = $3900, you'll pay ebay $390 plus 3% more to paypal which is another $107 or so and you'll be at risk that the buyer will mess around with you.

I don't know if that's the direction I would feel comfortable going in.
I can always sell it back to the company that sold it to me. I've heard various positive experiences doing that very thing.

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I'll be ripping no matter the price of cases at release, I love Topps Chrome, and I don't flip cases anyway, busting is fun for me.

It could be a Harper situation like last year, where he just signs like the blues, but who really knows.
I know. The three cases I have coming are split between me, my best friend and his twin brother. Actually plan on launching a weather balloon into space, then grabbing breakfast and ripping boxes while we wait for it come down.

The chances are better than good that we will be opening our cases.

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Agreed, if at least some of them.
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Do you think Finest could have this flippablity after release?
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