2007 Bowman Sterling - BGS Results

otmack2o · 03-15-2008, 12:54 PM

I got these back today. Does anyone have an idea as to why the Bumgarner got a 9 on the autograph?

pduce · 03-15-2008, 01:06 PM

I pulled out my set and it looks identical to the one I have. Mine is better centered on the sticker, but I doubt that makes a difference.

otmack2o · 03-15-2008, 01:22 PM

I always thought that the only way you got a non-10 on the auto was when part of the signature went off the sticker or out of the designated auto area.

pduce · 03-15-2008, 01:28 PM

That's what I thought too, is there a finger print on the auto or something else on the sticker that might not show up on the scan?? I was not kidding when I said identical, yours is a mirror image of mine.

sammyw · 03-15-2008, 01:36 PM

I agree with you about the auto being off the sticker or in the case of a cut auto, off the designated space. This info was in one of the beckett articles not too long ago. As I recall you would get less than a perfect grade if there was a crease also across the sig. I don't remember which issue it was though. That auto looks as lousy as all the others you got a 10 on...doesn't make sense.
I also would be careful bidding on graded cards by beckett with folks you don't know. A few young adult kids come to a show I do and get cards from some of the high end dealers who sell at shows and online. They have an in with some of the people at beckett so I hear that beckett will give those cards a higher grade than they normally would receive. Have to love it. Sorry about your grade on the auto.

rainmanesq · 03-15-2008, 05:15 PM

reasons for 9 auto grades-

auto's 'off center' (think USA/02 UD PP autos) and/or 'cut off'

auto's faded

auto's smudged

'surface funk' on sticker (think 04 ee and sp prospects)

auto's 'incomplete' compared to other versions graded by bgs

auto looks like the pen was 'lifted up' @ some point

Bill5 · 03-15-2008, 07:01 PM

Can't really tell for sure from the scan but the Bumgarner auto looks like it fades a bit at the end.

Jughead · 03-15-2008, 07:21 PM

I was thinking of "auto's 'incomplete' compared to other versions graded by bgs" but what Bill5 is saying makes sense too. I mean, whatever it is, you know it's something petty because it is still a 9.

03-15-2008, 12:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
otmack2o Hail to the Victors! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MI Posts: 5,831 2_t_2	2007 Bowman Sterling - BGS Results I got these back today. Does anyone have an idea as to why the Bumgarner got a 9 on the autograph? __________________ AARDVARKS!

03-15-2008, 01:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
pduce Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Casper, Wyoming Posts: 1,153 pduce007	I pulled out my set and it looks identical to the one I have. Mine is better centered on the sticker, but I doubt that makes a difference. __________________ Philip

03-15-2008, 01:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
otmack2o Hail to the Victors! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MI Posts: 5,831 2_t_2	I always thought that the only way you got a non-10 on the auto was when part of the signature went off the sticker or out of the designated auto area. __________________ AARDVARKS!

03-15-2008, 01:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
pduce Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Casper, Wyoming Posts: 1,153 pduce007	That's what I thought too, is there a finger print on the auto or something else on the sticker that might not show up on the scan?? I was not kidding when I said identical, yours is a mirror image of mine. __________________ Philip

03-15-2008, 05:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
rainmanesq Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 175 rainmanesq	reasons for 9 auto grades- auto's 'off center' (think USA/02 UD PP autos) and/or 'cut off' auto's faded auto's smudged 'surface funk' on sticker (think 04 ee and sp prospects) auto's 'incomplete' compared to other versions graded by bgs auto looks like the pen was 'lifted up' @ some point __________________ Always looking to buy bulk Bowman Chrome and Bowman Chrome Draft RCs (especially parallels)

03-15-2008, 01:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
sammyw Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 154	I agree with you about the auto being off the sticker or in the case of a cut auto, off the designated space. This info was in one of the beckett articles not too long ago. As I recall you would get less than a perfect grade if there was a crease also across the sig. I don't remember which issue it was though. That auto looks as lousy as all the others you got a 10 on...doesn't make sense. I also would be careful bidding on graded cards by beckett with folks you don't know. A few young adult kids come to a show I do and get cards from some of the high end dealers who sell at shows and online. They have an in with some of the people at beckett so I hear that beckett will give those cards a higher grade than they normally would receive. Have to love it. Sorry about your grade on the auto.

03-15-2008, 07:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bill5 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Reno/Los Angeles Posts: 65 bruinbill8	Can't really tell for sure from the scan but the Bumgarner auto looks like it fades a bit at the end.

03-15-2008, 07:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jughead Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 623 fastandfriendlyservice	I was thinking of "auto's 'incomplete' compared to other versions graded by bgs" but what Bill5 is saying makes sense too. I mean, whatever it is, you know it's something petty because it is still a 9. __________________ Sportlots: svscards http://joelshitshow.com There's just too many posts to read. If you need me for something, please send me a PM.

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