I pulled it !!!! Strasburg superfractor - Page 6

CaptainBOHICA · 05-13-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacky1053

Well he's holding his ground and has now stated twice that there will be a scan of the front AND back by later this afternoon.

you act like people haven't come on here and held their ground and promised pics before only to find out they were bs'ing the entire time lol.

ohiomike · 05-13-2010, 12:51 PM

In his defense, the nice pics he has came from cards he pulled from a Jumbo case. He's saying he pulled the Strasburg out of Hobby and at his g/f's place which doesn't have a scanner. He never says he opened the hobby immediately after opening the Jumbo. So while I questioned the same thing about the difference in pictures, his explaination is certainly realistic and understandable.

I think bradical's photoshop job is proof that a fake could be pulled off well enough to fool almost anyone, but this just doesn't strike me as being a scam. I'm looking forward to seeing nice pictures of the card, and trust the OP will have them up at some point today.

phil · 05-13-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nephinfan

I'm in no way an expert at photoshop, but, yeah, a quick chop can make it look like the Castro is sitting there....but only because the background, shadowing, angles, etc. were already there from a real photo, right? To do this all from scratch would require a lot of work, wouldn't it?

unless he pulled a different super. then it would be easy to turn it into strasburg.

nephinfan · 05-13-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by phil

unless he pulled a different super. then it would be easy to turn it into strasburg.

True, or just another card sitting there altogether, whether it was a super or not. I still hold out hope that it's real, but there are quite a few good points on here that go both ways. We all know we've been fooled before.

ohiomike · 05-13-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nephinfan

True, or just another card sitting there altogether, whether it was a super or not. I still hold out hope that it's real, but there are quite a few good points on here that go both ways. We all know we've been fooled before.

True on both points. I think its real too but I started with a healthy dose of skepticism myself. If this were being done by a less reputable member of ebay/BO forums, I'd be a lot more skeptical. His story makes sense to me, but on the other hand, if I just pulled a potential $10,000 card, I think my g/f would understand if I ran out for a few hours to get good scans made and get the card properly up on ebay as quick as possible... especially if there were doubters about its authenticity.

Boo · 05-13-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by endthecurse

I don't believe, for a second, that this card is real.

He has 9-10 cards from 2010 Bowman that were all listed yesterday, and he can't get a scan of this one? Sorry, but there's zero logic behind listing this card without a better picture.

Not saying it's real or not but that's a damn good way to get others to see the "real" cards you have for sale.

romad97 · 05-13-2010, 01:08 PM

I was kinda beliveing this at first. After reading through this incredibly long thread though, holy crap I must be bored, some of you guys have really good points. I am slightly starting to think that this might be a hoax more and more.

bradical · 05-13-2010, 01:13 PM

It's like the modern day Golden Ticket from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

tolrobb · 05-13-2010, 01:13 PM

I was going to go to the movies tonight, but I just read this thread, what an epic thrillride. two thumbs up. can't wait to see how it ends.

nephinfan · 05-13-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tolrobb

I was going to go to the movies tonight, but I just read this thread, what an epic thrillride. two thumbs up. can't wait to see how it ends.

Stay tuned for the exciting conclusion!

Surprise ending?

loganc169 · 05-13-2010, 01:19 PM

I secretly hope he has it..and is just waiting to see how out of control this gets before he shows everyone...

endthecurse · 05-13-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by loganc169

I secretly hope he has it..and is just waiting to see how out of control this gets before he shows everyone...

If he really pulled this card, then his actions defy reasonable logic.

Still... I hope he has it, too, so we don't have to see more hoaxes for this card going forward.

dd316 · 05-13-2010, 01:32 PM

Congrats to you!!! I hope you get the $12k some on here think you will.

I just don't get how anyone can justify spending that much on a card like this.

jayjay0122 · 05-13-2010, 01:32 PM

He should have posted a picture of the back of the card too. I'm not a photoshop expert, but I would think it would be difficult to photoshop the back of the card than the front. Guess we will wait and see...

ohiomike · 05-13-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jayjay0122

He should have posted a picture of the back of the card too. I'm not a photoshop expert, but I would think it would be difficult to photoshop the back of the card than the front. Guess we will wait and see...

Actually I think the only difference with the back from a regular chrome would be the machine serial# 1/1 stamp and probably the word superfractor somewhere, and the Topps holosticker. All of those could be easilly cut and pasted onto a picture of the back of a regular card. I don't consider myself to be even good at photoshop, but I could probably even pull off a fake back.

In fact, it will be interesting to see whether nice scans of the front and back will even put this debate to rest. I imagine some skeptics are so convinced they are right that they will call the new scans fake if/when they are posted.

Zacky1053 · 05-13-2010, 01:43 PM

Maybe instead of posting a scan that people might still be skeptical about, he should have it rushed to BGS for 2-day grading, or just authentication if he's not sold on the grade.

mgugs46 · 05-13-2010, 01:46 PM

I am guessing at this point that its faked. No way someone [IMO] would pull a card like that, and then list it without a scan of the card and instead just use a cheesy cell phone picture. Even if they did it to show the card here, no way you'd let it go this long with that bad of a picture; at least not if you had any common sense.

As to why someone would bother, well, people on the internet have a lot of time on their hands - hell, people off the internet have too much free time ...people make up/fake #@#@#@#@ all the time.

LSUNatChamps · 05-13-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dd316

Congrats to you!!! I hope you get the $12k some on here think you will.

I just don't get how anyone can justify spending that much on a card like this.

Agreed, but if he does have it and someone is willing to pay it, all the more power to both the buyer and seller.

While I have a handful of vintage cards, I am by no means a vintage collector. I will say that if I were to have that type of money to throw down on a single card, I would definitely go after a Mantle RC or a sweet '33 Goudey offering. It would be amazing to pass those treasures down to my kids.

Brad · 05-13-2010, 02:04 PM

If he doesn't have the card, I'm guessing this ends with a "sorry guys, sold the card off-eBay" excuse...

jlzinck · 05-13-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dd316

Congrats to you!!! I hope you get the $12k some on here think you will.

I just don't get how anyone can justify spending that much on a card like this.

^^^^^^ You sir are a smart man.

I spent $45 on this today and Mr Strasburg will never be in the same arena.

dd316 · 05-13-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jlzinck

^^^^^^ You sir are a smart man.

I spent $45 on this today and Mr Strasburg will never be in the same arena.

That's a beauty! I was just thinking, for $12k you could probably obtain autographs of EVERY player in the Hall of Fame. A Ruth would set you back the most, but seriously, you could probably find a decent example for $4-$5k (not necessarily a card). That would leave at least $7k left over to finish it off!!

100 years from now, will anybody ever look at that Strasburg as a $12k card? I highly doubt it. Pitchers generally don't get as much love as fielders... Nolan Ryan is arguably the greatest pitcher ever. Actually, not really any argument there but....

Anywho, Ryan's cards will probably never touch the $12k plateau even 100 years after he's long gone. It just boggles my mind wondering what these free-spending prospectors really think they're buying?

Zacky1053 · 05-13-2010, 02:21 PM

Even if this were an auto'd 1 of 1 I still couldn't justify the price as a buyer.

mgugs46 · 05-13-2010, 02:27 PM

I would be shocked if this; if its real; or the real 1/1 superfractor went for more than 4-5k honestly.

ajmcards · 05-13-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mgugs46

I would be shocked if this; if its real; or the real 1/1 superfractor went for more than 4-5k honestly.

I would (If I were in his shoes) to get a good couple of pictures on and open at .99 and let it go!!! you let it sell for what its worth and you only have to pay 9% FVF with the new ebay seller format.

Zacky1053 · 05-13-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mgugs46

I would be shocked if this; if its real; or the real 1/1 superfractor went for more than 4-5k honestly.

I hope this is just a fluke, but if this superfractor goes for $1,250, I don't wanna know how high the Stras RC would go.

2007 FINEST Chris Mullin WARRIORS SUPERFRACTOR 1/1 - eBay (item 360262094041 end time May-12-10 21:24:02 PDT)

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05-13-2010, 01:08 PM	#132 (permalink)
romad97 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,396	I was kinda beliveing this at first. After reading through this incredibly long thread though, holy crap I must be bored, some of you guys have really good points. I am slightly starting to think that this might be a hoax more and more.

05-13-2010, 01:13 PM	#133 (permalink)
bradical Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,056	It's like the modern day Golden Ticket from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

05-13-2010, 01:13 PM	#134 (permalink)
tolrobb Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,026 Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose!	I was going to go to the movies tonight, but I just read this thread, what an epic thrillride. two thumbs up. can't wait to see how it ends.

05-13-2010, 01:19 PM	#136 (permalink)
loganc169 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wyoming Posts: 497 loganc169	I secretly hope he has it..and is just waiting to see how out of control this gets before he shows everyone...

05-13-2010, 01:32 PM	#139 (permalink)
jayjay0122 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 595	He should have posted a picture of the back of the card too. I'm not a photoshop expert, but I would think it would be difficult to photoshop the back of the card than the front. Guess we will wait and see...

05-13-2010, 01:43 PM	#141 (permalink)
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21,463 Zacky1053	Maybe instead of posting a scan that people might still be skeptical about, he should have it rushed to BGS for 2-day grading, or just authentication if he's not sold on the grade.

05-13-2010, 01:46 PM	#142 (permalink)
mgugs46 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 10,222 mgugs0046	I am guessing at this point that its faked. No way someone [IMO] would pull a card like that, and then list it without a scan of the card and instead just use a cheesy cell phone picture. Even if they did it to show the card here, no way you'd let it go this long with that bad of a picture; at least not if you had any common sense. As to why someone would bother, well, people on the internet have a lot of time on their hands - hell, people off the internet have too much free time ...people make up/fake #@#@#@#@ all the time.

05-13-2010, 02:04 PM	#144 (permalink)
Brad Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,224	If he doesn't have the card, I'm guessing this ends with a "sorry guys, sold the card off-eBay" excuse...

05-13-2010, 02:21 PM	#147 (permalink)
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21,463 Zacky1053	Even if this were an auto'd 1 of 1 I still couldn't justify the price as a buyer.

05-13-2010, 02:27 PM	#148 (permalink)
mgugs46 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 10,222 mgugs0046	I would be shocked if this; if its real; or the real 1/1 superfractor went for more than 4-5k honestly.