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Old 02-16-2015, 01:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering who would be called the greatest player ever for every current MLB team. This player should be someone who spent a significant amount of time on that team and who had great seasons there. He should also be the guy people think of when they hear the team name and that team's "Franchise Player".
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Arizona Diamondbacks
Randy Johnson

Atlanta Braves
Hank Aaron

Baltimore Orioles
Cal Ripken Jr.

Boston Red Sox
Ted Williams

Chicago Cubs
Ernie Banks

Chicago White Sox
Frank Thomas

Cincinnati Reds
Pete Rose

Cleveland Indians
Bob Feller

Colorado Rockies
Todd Helton

Detroit Tigers
Ty Cobb

Houston Astros
Craig Biggio

Kansas City Royals
George Brett

Los Angeles Dodgers
Jackie Robinson

Los Angeles Angels
Nolan Ryan

Miami Marlins
Miguel Cabrera

Milwaukee Brewers
Paul Molitor

Minnesota Twins
Walter Johnson (played with the Senators that became the Twins)
Kirby Puckett (if not counting the Senators)

New York Mets
Tom Seaver

New York Yankees
Babe Ruth

Oakland Athletics
Rickey Henderson

Philadelphia Phillies
Mike Schmidt

Pittsburgh Pirates
Roberto Clemente

San Diego Padres
Tony Gwynn

San Francisco Giants
Willie Mays

Seattle Mariners
Ken Griffey Jr.

St. Louis Cardinals
Stan Musial

Tampa Bay Rays
Evan Longoria

Texas Rangers
Nolan Ryan

Toronto Blue Jays
Carlos Delgado

Washington Nationals
Andre Dawson (played with the Expos)

Nolan Ryan appears twice and its odd to say that Evan Longoria is the best player to ever play for the Rays. What are your thoughts on the all-time greatest player on every team?
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Are we only comparing the stats that they put together with their team or their career stats with every team?
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Are we only comparing that stats that they put together with their team or their career stats with every team?
On that one team, or else Nolan Ryan would be mentioned like 5 more times.
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Brewers is Robin Yount
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I'd agree with most of this list without studying the numbers closely. Off the top of my head, Molitor for the Brewers and Cabrera for the Marlins are the ones I'd disagree with the most. Hanley accomplished a lot more as a Marlin than Miggy did (in fact Stanton will likely be the franchise guy ultimately when his contract finishes) and Yount is easily the Brewers greatest player ever.
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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on the TWINS, could be Puckett/Killebrew/Mauer/Torii Hunter. but if you're including the Senators, then yeah probably Johnson
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Juan Gonzalez had better seasons for the Rangers than Nolan Ryan did.
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Juan Gonzalez had better seasons for the Rangers than Nolan Ryan did.
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I'd agree with most of this list without studying the numbers closely. Off the top of my head, Molitor for the Brewers and Cabrera for the Marlins are the ones I'd disagree with the most. Hanley accomplished a lot more as a Marlin than Miggy did (in fact Stanton will likely be the franchise guy ultimately when his contract finishes) and Yount is easily the Brewers greatest player ever.
Definitely agree with Stanton WILL be the Marlins guy.
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Jackie for the Dodgers isn't a bad choice, but Koufax is the real choice. Heck, Duke was a better player than Jackie.
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I'd go with Kirby Puckett or Killebrew for the Twins. No offense to the Big Train but I don't know if he is as identified by with his team as the others. I also believe the Dodgers has to be Koufax. I'm a Jackie Robinson fan but I give the edge to Koufax.
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Ok, now that I've stopped laughing. Pudge is the only Ranger who could compete with Ryan as the all-time Ranger. Juan Gonzalez...hahahahaha...
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Walter Johnson doesn't count on the Twins. He never played for the Twins. Has to be Carew, Killebrew, or Puckett
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on the TWINS, could be Puckett/Killebrew/Mauer/Torii Hunter. but if you're including the Senators, then yeah probably Johnson
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I'd go with Kirby Puckett or Killebrew for the Twins. No offense to the Big Train but I don't know if he is as identified by with his team as the others. I also believe the Dodgers has to be Koufax. I'm a Jackie Robinson fan but I give the edge to Koufax.
If I don't count the Senators, then I would go with Puckett as the greatest Twins player of all time.
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I'd go with Kirby Puckett or Killebrew for the Twins. No offense to the Big Train but I don't know if he is as identified by with his team as the others. I also believe the Dodgers has to be Koufax. I'm a Jackie Robinson fan but I give the edge to Koufax.
Good point. I'd recommend adding some of the moved/defunct teams separately. Killebrew would be the Twins, Big Train would be the Senators. Raines would be the Expos...etc
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I'd take Bautista over Delgado but you've got a very fine list. Honus Wagner Pirates?
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Walter Johnson doesn't count on the Twins. He never played for the Twins. Has to be Carew, Killebrew, or Puckett
I edited the OP to say that Puckett is the greatest if I don't count the Senators.
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If I don't count the Senators, then I would go with Puckett as the greatest Twins player of all time.
Puckett was great, but he was no Killer.
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I'd take Bautista over Delgado but you've got a very fine list. Honus Wagner Pirates?
I don't think Bautista's there yet, but I forgot about Wagner. I'll leave the list as is though.
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I don't think Bautista's there yet, but I forgot about Wagner. I'll leave the list as is though.
Agreed. Joey Bats has a ways to go. Toronto is really Dave Steib, though Doc Halladay is really close.

And Wagner is definitely Pittsburgh.
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Puckett is known more for his personality while playing the game, as well as his heroics in the '91 World Series. If you look at stats, Puckett really doesn't come close to Killebrew or Carew. That being said, if you asked people who they think of when they heard "Minnesota Twins", the top 3 answers would probably be Killebrew, Puckett, Carew, in that order, with the possibility of Mauer replacing Carew
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QUICK look, I'd have to go bench for the reds, as he is mentioned in the argument for best catcher ever. While Rose was great he's never mentioned in argument as best player ever at a position.

Same with Hans wagner for pirates. Love clemente but wagner is on the short list for not only best shortstop but best player.

I would also go koufax or even snider over robinson just on ability at the point he got up. Social importance he is the top player but if just pure player on the field only which I assume is criteria w rose and ty Cobb on the list, koufax again because in the list for best pitcher ever.
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QUICK look, I'd have to go bench for the reds, as he is mentioned in the argument for best catcher ever. While Rose was great he's never mentioned in argument as best player ever at a position.

Same with Hans wagner for pirates. Love clemente but wagner is on the short list for not only best shortstop but best player.

I would also go koufax or even snider over robinson just on ability at the point he got up. Social importance he is the top player but if just pure player on the field only which I assume is criteria w rose and ty Cobb on the list, koufax again because in the list for best pitcher ever.
But Rose is mentioned in the sentence of greatest hitter ever. It's still Rose over Bench.
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QUICK look, I'd have to go bench for the reds, as he is mentioned in the argument for best catcher ever. While Rose was great he's never mentioned in argument as best player ever at a position.

Same with Hans wagner for pirates. Love clemente but wagner is on the short list for not only best shortstop but best player.

I would also go koufax or even snider over robinson just on ability at the point he got up. Social importance he is the top player but if just pure player on the field only which I assume is criteria w rose and ty Cobb on the list, koufax again because in the list for best pitcher ever.
Rose is not mentioned in the argument as best player ever at a position because he was an OF, which is where the majority of the greatest position players ever played. On the other hand, catcher is not as tightly packed as other positions. There are probably less than 5 catchers in the top 100 players of all time.
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QUICK look, I'd have to go bench for the reds, as he is mentioned in the argument for best catcher ever. While Rose was great he's never mentioned in argument as best player ever at a position.

Same with Hans wagner for pirates. Love clemente but wagner is on the short list for not only best shortstop but best player.

I would also go koufax or even snider over robinson just on ability at the point he got up. Social importance he is the top player but if just pure player on the field only which I assume is criteria w rose and ty Cobb on the list, koufax again because in the list for best pitcher ever.
I concur with most of this. Though Rose is Mr. Red. As great as Johnny was, Rose was better.
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