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Old 08-07-2008, 02:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Did UD overproduce Exquisite this year?

Seems like Upper Deck made a ton of Exquisite cases this year. I've noticed that the case prices have been around $1500. Not only that but some of Chris' competitors have been selling them for around $500 a box. Which makes me wonder if there is more supply then we thought. Seem like in previous years box prices were higher because of the lower supply. PLUS they have Extended RC Redemptions now. Telling me that gives them an excuse to create more cases for 07-08

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i think it's simply because BKB is so horrible.......... no matter what product it is.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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While on the topic of exquisite....not sure if anyone has seen this.

Exquisite Draft Picks Reservation

DP-A
Derrick Rose/Michael Beasley/O.J. Mayo
#d to 99

DP-B
Michael Beasley/O.J. Mayo/Eric Gordon
#d to 99

DP-C
O.J. Mayo/Eric Gordon/Jerryd Bayless
#d to 99

DP-D
Derrick Rose/Russell Westbrook/D.J. Augustin
#d to 99

DP-E
Michael Beasley/Kevin Love/Joe Alexander
#d to 99

DP-F
Derrick Rose/Eric Gordon/Jerryd Bayless
#d to 99

DP-G
Joe Alexander/Brook Lopez/Jason Thompson
#d 199

DP-H
Russell Westbrook/Kevin Love/Danilo Gallinari
#d 199

DP-I
Russell Westbrook/Danilo Gallinari/Brandon Rush
#d 199

DP-J
D.J. Augustin/Jerryd Bayless/Brandon Rush
#d 199

DP-K
Joe Alexander/Jason Thompson/Marreese Speights
#d 199

DP-L
Brook Lopez/Robin Lopez/Roy Hibbert
#d 199
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I'm actually pondering if I'm to get a box or not.. Seems like it's too much of a hit or miss this year compared to others. But seeing the triple logoman of Jordan/Magic/Bird and Lebron/Wade/Carmelo already pulled.... I dunno -_- Anyone else thinking of buying a box/case?
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I'm actually pondering if I'm to get a box or not.. Seems like it's too much of a hit or miss this year compared to others. But seeing the triple logoman of Jordan/Magic/Bird and Lebron/Wade/Carmelo already pulled.... I dunno -_- Anyone else thinking of buying a box/case?
This product is either a hitter or a huge miss. Compounded with not so great resale on basketball (certain players are exceptions of course).
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This product is either a hitter or a huge miss. Compounded with not so great resale on basketball (certain players are exceptions of course).
But man, so far all the "hitters" that were seeing are something else... They have a LOT of crap thrown in there, at the same time I'm seeing more gems pop out, and at a more frequent rate.
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But man, so far all the "hitters" that were seeing are something else... They have a LOT of crap thrown in there, at the same time I'm seeing more gems pop out, and at a more frequent rate.
The case I broke had KG/Al Jefferson Exqusite dual jersey auto 2/5. That was my hitter sold it for $425. Also got two rookie patches in one box. Rest was ok. Still have more to sell but looks like I will either break even or take very marginal loss on the case.
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I just got my box of exquisite from the UPS man...i am waiting for my son to get home( he has a box of Press Pass basketball to open)...I will post if I get anything decent
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I just got my box of exquisite from the UPS man...i am waiting for my son to get home( he has a box of Press Pass basketball to open)...I will post if I get anything decent
Good luck man. Open it real slooooooooooowwwwwww let it linger and breath.
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Best of luck to you!

ND3: I think, compared to other BKB products, this is the one you're most likely to break even in. I've seen some of the rookie auto patches sell at an unbelievable rate. (close to BV I'm imagining)
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Best of luck to you!

ND3: I think, compared to other BKB products, this is the one you're most likely to break even in. I've seen some of the rookie auto patches sell at an unbelievable rate. (close to BV I'm imagining)
I agree. I had my stuff a day early and posted to ebay same night. I sold a Thaddeus Young 1/21 rookie (no patch or auto) for $107. I couldn't believe it. The place I acquired the case got several more and they were all progressively worse then the one I bought
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I agree. I had my stuff a day early and posted to ebay same night. I sold a Thaddeus Young 1/21 rookie (no patch or auto) for $107. I couldn't believe it. The place I acquired the case got several more and they were all progressively worse then the one I bought
The more people getting horrible cards, the better the ones that are still in boxes out there.. Does that make sense?

I'm looking into buying Premier now, I'm thinking It's just like exquisite but with numbered cases.
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I believe UD prices the BKB Exquisite around $500 every year. Even the first 03-04 Exquisite was first priced at $500 (kicking myself for not buying it when a dealer was begging me to). Like last year, I believe when the hype settles, the price will go down
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This may have been overproduced...but the main fact is that basketball is a soft market right.
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1st card was Dwayne Wade base
2nd Nate "Tiny" Archibald 3 color signed patch card #d 49/50
3rd Richard Jefferson quad signed patch card #d 7/10
4th Mike Conley signed rookie #d 225/225
5th Nick Young rookie card #d 21/99

I'm a little disappointed with my 1st box of Exquisite... I had better luck with Upper Deck Black at 1/2 the price...Any input would be appreciated..thanks
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you should post your break in the basketball break section
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sorry...wasn't thinking
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you should post your break in the basketball break section


Probably wasn't the input he was looking for. LoL.
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LOL....I forgot what thread I was on when I posted my break...
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The case I broke had KG/Al Jefferson Exqusite dual jersey auto 2/5. That was my hitter sold it for $425. Also got two rookie patches in one box. Rest was ok. Still have more to sell but looks like I will either break even or take very marginal loss on the case.
Yeah, I bet I could sell my two cases for breakeven or a small loss - Durant RC Auto'd patch, Pierce/KG auto'd 6/10, LBJ and Kobe bases, Brewer Year One 1 of 10, Kobe patch #'d 25, Gervin auto'd patch, Horford RC auto'd patch, BDavis/AlH auto'd patch to 5, Walton auto'd. Certainly not a 50% loss like some people say they're taking.


If you buy one of anything you can get a horrid box/case - my first Black was Laimbeer and Jason Smith - just putrid.
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The more people getting horrible cards, the better the ones that are still in boxes out there.. Does that make sense?
Makes perfect sense to me, people are simply illogical.

It's like a blackjack shoe, if no aces come out the first 25% of the deck, you should definitely STAY and play more hands [and bet more!]

You don't need to count cards to figure this stuff out.

Are you thinking of buying a whole case of Premier?
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Yeah, I bet I could sell my two cases for breakeven or a small loss - Durant RC Auto'd patch, Pierce/KG auto'd 6/10, LBJ and Kobe bases, Brewer Year One 1 of 10, Kobe patch #'d 25, Gervin auto'd patch, Horford RC auto'd patch, BDavis/AlH auto'd patch to 5, Walton auto'd. Certainly not a 50% loss like some people say they're taking.


If you buy one of anything you can get a horrid box/case - my first Black was Laimbeer and Jason Smith - just putrid.
If you have a price for that Kobe patch, let me know
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Yeah, I bet I could sell my two cases for breakeven or a small loss - Durant RC Auto'd patch, Pierce/KG auto'd 6/10, LBJ and Kobe bases, Brewer Year One 1 of 10, Kobe patch #'d 25, Gervin auto'd patch, Horford RC auto'd patch, BDavis/AlH auto'd patch to 5, Walton auto'd. Certainly not a 50% loss like some people say they're taking.


If you buy one of anything you can get a horrid box/case - my first Black was Laimbeer and Jason Smith - just putrid.
meh to me it's luck of the draw. i believe in don't push your limit if you get a good one. my break was decent 2 base in Kidd and Garnett, CJ Miles Gold Auto /25, Bosh Patch Auto /10, and the Group A Auto /99.
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meh to me it's luck of the draw.
Yeah, that's what I said.
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This is probably the weakest year for Exquisite (no really good rookies to speak of except for Durant). I believe UD realizes this as they had those special numbered autographed boxes this year. I think you will see the price for this years exquiste come way down as compared to previous years. I wouldn't be surprised to see the prices actually drop into the mid to high $300 range but that will be awhile.
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