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Old 05-12-2009, 11:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Art of Shill Bidding ?

Just want to share. I came across this auction during ebaying.





Of course, I can be wrong.



But looks really suspicious.



Why that over 10,000 feedback user bid like that?



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Old 05-12-2009, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that. With eTopps cards, there's an unwritten price that the buyers want the card at. Nothing suspicious IMO...
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Whats wrong????
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Only 1% of that buyers bids are with that seller. Doesn't seem likely he's a shill bidder to me.
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What I find strange about it too is that he was winning this card with his very first bid. Why then did he continue to bid within seconds of his previous bid 6 more times? I can see doing it a time or two, but not 6. Can anybody explain with good reason why he would have done this?

I don't think shill bidding is the reason either. I just have no clue why he'd do it unless he was panicking after each bid immediately thinking it wouldn't be enough.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What I find strange about it too is that he was winning this card with his very first bid. Why then did he continue to bid within seconds of his previous bid 6 more times? I can see doing it a time or two, but not 6. Can anybody explain with good reason why he would have done this?

I don't think shill bidding is the reason either. I just have no clue why he'd do it unless he was panicking after each bid immediately thinking it wouldn't be enough.
I can give you an explanation, but some people may not like it. However, I honestly believe this does happen...

A buyer on eBay who wants a card may bid in an erratic manner such as this in hopes of scaring away other potential buyers. There are a lot of people out there scared of "being shilled" so they will steer clear of an item with a "suspicious" bid history. In the end, the buyer with the odd bids can potentially pickup the card for a cheaper price.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I can give you an explanation, but some people may not like it. However, I honestly believe this does happen...

A buyer on eBay who wants a card may bid in an erratic manner such as this in hopes of scaring away other potential buyers. There are a lot of people out there scared of "being shilled" so they will steer clear of an item with a "suspicious" bid history. In the end, the buyer with the odd bids can potentially pickup the card for a cheaper price.
I agree. I think some bidders "increase" their maximum bids to scare people off.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I can give you an explanation, but some people may not like it. However, I honestly believe this does happen...

A buyer on eBay who wants a card may bid in an erratic manner such as this in hopes of scaring away other potential buyers. There are a lot of people out there scared of "being shilled" so they will steer clear of an item with a "suspicious" bid history. In the end, the buyer with the odd bids can potentially pickup the card for a cheaper price.
I agree also and i seen this tactic used to the extreme. I wanted to bid on a game worn cleats of Patrick Willis and when i looked at the bid history there was a buyer with around 18 or so consecutive bids to increase his maximum bid amount, which probably was used to scare others off. I still bid on the item and lost, so i guess the tactic worked
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I never really thought of that but that was a good point. It clearly didn't work for the bidder, but oh well.
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