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View Poll Results: heat or thunder in NBA finals
thunder in 4 6 3.97%
thunder in 5 11 7.28%
thunder in 6 63 41.72%
thunder in 7 17 11.26%
heat in 4 1 0.66%
heat in 5 6 3.97%
heat in 6 27 17.88%
heat in 7 20 13.25%
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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As much as I love my Celtics...they arent near the team OKC is...and the Celtics outplayed the Heat 4 games in row.
I will go with Thunder in 6 for one reason and one reason only....Westbrook and Harden have games that they are turnover machines and shoot a really low percentage from the court.
That alone will give the Heat a chance to take a couple games....but OKC will have a huge advantage in the 2nd half of all the games due to their depth and youth.
Could easily be Thunder in 5...but I am going with Thunder in 6.
Someone said Lebron could totally shutdown one of the Thunders best players.
Even if he does...Sefolosha will shut down one of the Heats best players...and they only have one and a half scorers(Lebron all game and Dwade in the 2nd half),thus meaning the Heat will be in shambles on the Offensive end.
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As much as I love my Celtics...they arent near the team OKC is...and the Celtics outplayed the Heat 4 games in row.
I will go with Thunder in 6 for one reason and one reason only....Westbrook and Harden have games that they are turnover machines and shoot a really low percentage from the court.
That alone will give the Heat a chance to take a couple games....but OKC will have a huge advantage in the 2nd half of all the games due to their depth and youth.
Could easily be Thunder in 5...but I am going with Thunder in 6.
Someone said Lebron could totally shutdown one of the Thunders best players.
Even if he does...Sefolosha will shut down one of the Heats best players...and they only have one and a half scorers(Lebron all game and Dwade in the 2nd half),thus meaning the Heat will be in shambles on the Offensive end.
sefolosha can shut down who?

yeah i know he's 'good' at defense. but shut down? i wouldn't go that far.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:47 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think OKC has it, but I am torn on tonight's matchup as I am heading to the casino in a bit to place my bet for tonight. OKC -5 and o/u 195.5

Thoughts? I am thinking OKC and the under.

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I'm thinking the Heat will sneak game one but the Thunder will overall win in 6 or 7. As a Thunder fan, I'm hoping for the best. As a somewhat pessimistic person overall, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Heat as champions - I just wouldn't like it at all.

Lebron is too big for a regular SF so he'll be a matchup problem if KD is against him. Thabo can cover Wade (for the 20 min he plays a game) so the other Heat players will need to contribute. Overall, the Thunder look the better team, but the lack of any scoring options beyond Durant, Westbrook and Harden always concerns me. They'll need Fisher/Cook/Ibaka to put points on the board too, whereas the Heat can get points (though they don't often) from Miller, Battier, Chalmers - as well as their regular 'Big 3'.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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So Westbrook has missed 3 shots so far.... great. Especially annoying when I bet on him to score first (6.5:1) and he had two opportunities to do so.
If Westbrook's not hitting shots and the other players aren't getting on the scoreboard, the Thunder are in big trouble.
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So Westbrook has missed 3 shots so far.... great. Especially annoying when I bet on him to score first (6.5:1) and he had two opportunities to do so.
If Westbrook's not hitting shots and the other players aren't getting on the scoreboard, the Thunder are in big trouble.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:21 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Heat are playing way off Westbrook.
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Im saying heat in 6.
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sefolosha can shut down who?

yeah i know he's 'good' at defense. but shut down? i wouldn't go that far.
Ok....so after the game....I am pretty sure SEFOLOSHA shut down Lebron.
What was Lebrons FG% against him? Something like 29% I believe.
Thats about as shut down as it gets...especially against the "League MVP"
Either that or he just decided to play like last years finals and only show up for 3 quarters.

I guess we will keep watching to see if my Sefolosha and my 2nd half theories keep coming true.
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Ok....so after the game....I am pretty sure SEFOLOSHA shut down Lebron.
What was Lebrons FG% against him? Something like 29% I believe.
Thats about as shut down as it gets...especially against the "League MVP"
Either that or he just decided to play like last years finals and only show up for 3 quarters.

I guess we will keep watching to see if my Sefolosha and my 2nd half theories keep coming true.
Same thing Pietrus did, he "shutdown" lebron, then what happened? Lebron killed him the other few games
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Ok....so after the game....I am pretty sure SEFOLOSHA shut down Lebron.
What was Lebrons FG% against him? Something like 29% I believe.
Thats about as shut down as it gets...especially against the "League MVP"
Either that or he just decided to play like last years finals and only show up for 3 quarters.

I guess we will keep watching to see if my Sefolosha and my 2nd half theories keep coming true.
hahahahahahahaha

lebron scored 30. yes he didn't shoot well but thats far from Sefolosha shutting him down. good try though.
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oh yeah and who is responsible for the 'shutting down' of westbrook who shot 10-24? chalmers?

haha so far your theories are 1/2. not bad 50%. don't slip that percentage any lower or you will be 'shut down'
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hahahahahahahaha

lebron scored 30. yes he didn't shoot well but thats far from Sefolosha shutting him down. good try though.
Sefelosha didnt guard him til the 4th quarter jackass.
How many points did he score then?
3 or 4?

What did DWADE do when he was guarded by Sefolosha?
He was awful.

It is obvious that Dwade and Lebron are Miamis 2 best players.
I said Sefolosha would shut down one of their best players,and whoever he guarded,might as well have just set down.
Therefore my theories are both true for game one....although I picked OKC by 9 and they won by 11..so I guess I need to step up my game a bit eh?
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Sefelosha didnt guard him til the 4th quarter jackass.
How many points did he score then?
3 or 4?

What did DWADE do when he was guarded by Sefolosha?
He was awful.

It is obvious that Dwade and Lebron are Miamis 2 best players.
I said Sefolosha would shut down one of their best players,and whoever he guarded,might as well have just set down.
Therefore my theories are both true for game one....although I picked OKC by 9 and they won by 11..so I guess I need to step up my game a bit eh?
touche! lol
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Sefelosha didnt guard him til the 4th quarter jackass.
How many points did he score then?
3 or 4?

What did DWADE do when he was guarded by Sefolosha?
He was awful.

It is obvious that Dwade and Lebron are Miamis 2 best players.
I said Sefolosha would shut down one of their best players,and whoever he guarded,might as well have just set down.
Therefore my theories are both true for game one....although I picked OKC by 9 and they won by 11..so I guess I need to step up my game a bit eh?
oh mr. tough guy. name calling... hahaha

actually lebron scored 7 pts in 4th quarter being guarded by sefolosha. so say he had guarded him for the other 3 that would be about 28 pts right? so 30 (his actual) - 28 (projected being guarded by sefolosha) = 2 points lebron would have scored less if sefolosha guarded him the whole game. yeah SHUT HIM DOWN. haha

and shutting down wade this playoffs isn't anything special. we saw 80 year old ray allen and kenyon dooling doing that too. haha wades been awful the whole playoffs, hate to break it to you it wasn't sefolosha. maybe you haven't been watching the playoffs.

so no sefolosha didn't shut anyone down. sorry. call me another name? its real tough. your predictions are rivaling qwaisins 'i told you so' 40 fts the heat were going to get haha

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Sefelosha didnt guard him til the 4th quarter jackass.
How many points did he score then?
3 or 4?

What did DWADE do when he was guarded by Sefolosha?
He was awful.


It is obvious that Dwade and Lebron are Miamis 2 best players.
I said Sefolosha would shut down one of their best players,and whoever he guarded,might as well have just set down.
Therefore my theories are both true for game one....although I picked OKC by 9 and they won by 11..so I guess I need to step up my game a bit eh?
To be fair, D Wade could be guarded by the towel boy at this point and be awful...
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oh mr. tough guy. name calling... hahaha

actually lebron scored 7 pts in 4th quarter being guarded by sefolosha. so say he had guarded him for the other 3 that would be about 28 pts right? so 30 (his actual) - 28 (projected being guarded by sefolosha) = 2 points lebron would have scored less if sefolosha guarded him the whole game. yeah SHUT HIM DOWN. haha

and shutting down wade this playoffs isn't anything special. we saw 80 year old ray allen and kenyon dooling doing that too. haha wades been awful the whole playoffs, hate to break it to you it wasn't sefolosha. maybe you haven't been watching the playoffs.

so no sefolosha didn't shut anyone down. sorry. call me another name? its real tough. your predictions are rivaling qwaisins 'i told you so' 40 fts the heat were going to get haha
When Lebron was guarded by Sefolosha...he shot 29% for the game...and was 2-6 in the 4th quarter.
Lebron is 100% the only reason the Heat are in the finals.
I mean he is the league MVP....shouldn't he be the guy carrying his team in crunch time?
Durrant was blowing up the gym while Lebron was getting suffocated by Thabo.
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To be fair, D Wade could be guarded by the towel boy at this point and be awful...
Touche.
I can't argue with that.
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The way they are defending Lebron is not just one person shutting him down, its as a team...

Everyone collapses to the paint when Lebron drives, thats why you saw the Heat hit a lot of open shots. When Ibaka and Perkins are in, they go for blocks or to just contest/change the shot. When Nick Collison is in, he steps in for charges. It looks like the Thunder have taken a page out of the Mavericks defense schemes on how to guard Lebron as a team...
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Sefolosha's defensive impact has been significant all year. .96 pts per possession against with him on the court. When Harden replaces him it jumps up to 1.09.
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i never said sefolosha wasn't good at D, but he was no where near 'shutting down' anyone and winning the game for the thunder in game 1.

so the evidence is

- lebron scored 7 pts and shot 2-6 thus sefolosha locked him down in the fourth quarter? hmmm
- and wade was shut down which you already admitted a ball boy could do.

great evidence!

yes durant blew it up, that was fun to watch. but you are acting like sefolosha is the reason lebron didn't have a great 4th quarter. we all know for a fact that it isn't the first time nor the last lebrons struggled in the 4th quarter. so was it really sefolosha? and statwise lebron had a 'good' 4th quarter for him (based on his past) so saying 'sefolosha SHUT HIM DOWN' is wrong...

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