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Old 07-29-2012, 03:43 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Knew this one was fake the second I saw it listed.

I am very skeptical about this one that ended as well. I don't feel like the patch is authentic. Does not seem right.

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For sure.. He said he was working on a 5k deal for it...
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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How did he do it? The front of card'd surface looks good. Did it from the back??
I think you would split the sides and reseal/glue.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:14 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think you would split the sides and reseal/glue.
I work with a stamp collector who uses salt water to lessen the adhesive. You might be able to salt steam the card and separate into layers.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I think you would split the sides and reseal/glue.
Yeah but these cards are made up of multiple layers, it would be impossible to have them line up again
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:29 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Surprise to see this auction still up and running
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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LEBRON JAMES 2006-2007 UD BLACK PATCH /25 GOLD VERSION EXQUISITE JERSEY | eBay

What a moron, Here He/She is selling the same year's patch card and it clearly says PATCH on the side.. I guess He/She didn't think about the Jordan printed JERSEY on the side lol
You are indeed correct! I sold him this card:



The only patch that was changed was the bottom left.

I sold him both the regular & gold version.

Here is the regular version out of #/50



He didn't mess with it:

LEBRON JAMES 2006-07 UPPER DECK UD BLACK 33/50 QUAD LOGO PATCH EXQUISITE PATCH | eBay
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
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wow, they are getting really good at it..... makes you skeptical to buy cards.
Is there anyway to know this as buyer?
Will upper deck be able to help?
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
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wow, i had/sold him the original card, didn't realize he was going to destroy it! what a waste.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:36 PM   #34 (permalink)
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wow, i had/sold him the original card, didn't realize he was going to destroy it! what a waste.
if the auction is still running, pls report him. you are the actual person who sold him the now altered card...it would go a long way in proving he is the culprit and not simply a middle man to the perp (hopefully ebay can properly interpret it as such)
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:51 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I am totally against this guy doing what he is doing, but reporting him isn't going to stop him. Even if ebay goes as far as shutting his ebay account down, he will just make another account. They very rarely, if ever, shut down the account that really matters; the Paypal account.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:43 PM   #36 (permalink)
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reported...twice...
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So any chance this gets taken down? 2 days left, I'm sure there have been many people reporting it, but it's still up!
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Just yesterday a few people on this forum were stating BGS doesn't grade cards with fake patches (total BS), and now here is more possible proof of it. I think people just believe what they want to believe.
Collectors need to get it through their heads that BGS has no idea if a patch is legit or not. Only the card companies could give you that answer. BGS grades many fake patch cards. Alot of times sellers will have their cards with fake patches sent to BGS for them to grade the card (not the patch) as Authentic. I feel that the Authentic grades should be used for vintage cards only but thats just me.
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You are indeed correct! I sold him this card:



The only patch that was changed was the bottom left.

I sold him both the regular & gold version.

Here is the regular version out of #/50



He didn't mess with it:

LEBRON JAMES 2006-07 UPPER DECK UD BLACK 33/50 QUAD LOGO PATCH EXQUISITE PATCH | eBay
Thats unreal. You can tell the bottom left patch is fake though by just comparing the stitching to the other patches. This guy is scum.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:38 PM   #40 (permalink)
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PAUL PIERCE 2007- 2008 EXQUISITE COLLECTION /10 ~AUTO~ QUAD LOGO PATCH GOLD | eBay

Another fake. These are jerseys. Its like he cant help himself but fake every card he sells.
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...and another. These too are jerseys. Not patches.

DWIGHT HOWARD 2006-07 UPPER DECK UD BLACK /50 ~AUTO~ QUAD LOGO PATCH | eBay
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How are there so many idiots in this hobby that can't detect a card that never had patches to be a fake?
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...and another. These too are jerseys. Not patches.

DWIGHT HOWARD 2006-07 UPPER DECK UD BLACK /50 ~AUTO~ QUAD LOGO PATCH | eBay

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2006-07 UD Black DWIGHT HOWARD Auto Quad Jersey #d 09/50 | eBay

same card, same serial number.

what a loser
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:46 PM   #44 (permalink)
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2006-07 UD Black DWIGHT HOWARD Auto Quad Jersey #d 09/50 | eBay

same card, same serial number.

what a loser
Oh man.. that card didn't even sell a month ago and he has the nerve to have it back up for sale already? Someone should send him the link and ask him to explain. I'd love to see a response to that one!
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Oh man.. that card didn't even sell a month ago and he has the nerve to have it back up for sale already? Someone should send him the link and ask him to explain. I'd love to see a response to that one!
I did and I'll update his response!
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How are there so many idiots in this hobby that can't detect a card that never had patches to be a fake?
I can't detect them all so I ask about most of my buys on here for online trades and auctions and you all normally help me out.
But I mean I always check a sellers buy history just in case
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Another fake. These are jerseys. Its like he cant help himself but fake every card he sells.
..and here's the Pierce. Wow. I'm speechless..

2008-09 Exquisite PAUL PIERCE Quad Jersey Auto 04/10 | eBay
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Does anyone know if these are supposed to be jerseys or patches?

2004 SP GAME USED MICHAEL JORDAN /10 JERSEY PATCH KOBE LEBRON GARNETT | eBay

It seems he intentionally cut the words of the card off at the bottom of the picture. It says GAME and USED at the top and I assume it says PATCHES or JERSEYS at the bottom of the card?

Patches seem too good to be true.

Edit: Nevermind. Found my answer. Yet another fake...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-SPGU-QUAD...item4cf813a865
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Does anyone know if these are supposed to be jerseys or patches?

2004 SP GAME USED MICHAEL JORDAN /10 JERSEY PATCH KOBE LEBRON GARNETT | eBay

It seems he intentionally cut the words of the card off at the bottom of the picture. It says GAME and USED at the top and I assume it says PATCHES or JERSEYS at the bottom of the card?

Patches seem too good to be true.

Edit: Nevermind. Found my answer. Yet another fake...

04 SPGU QUAD JERSEY KOBE MICHAEL JORDAN LEBRON JAMES KEVIN GARNETT #/10 | eBay
LOOK at the last pic!(the back of the card) In the picture it says GAME USED JERSEY CARD!! BUSTED
Not sure why he would hide the front and then show the back.....
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Does anyone know if these are supposed to be jerseys or patches?

2004 SP GAME USED MICHAEL JORDAN /10 JERSEY PATCH KOBE LEBRON GARNETT | eBay

It seems he intentionally cut the words of the card off at the bottom of the picture. It says GAME and USED at the top and I assume it says PATCHES or JERSEYS at the bottom of the card?

Patches seem too good to be true.

Edit: Nevermind. Found my answer. Yet another fake...

04 SPGU QUAD JERSEY KOBE MICHAEL JORDAN LEBRON JAMES KEVIN GARNETT #/10 | eBay
there is another thread on this. It is absolutely fake!!!!
should be single color jerseys. he cut the serial number out of the card so you can't see it in the pictures.

I've literally called ebay 3 times about this card cause it keeps getting relisted and they have done nothing. Seller should have been banned months ago
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