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Old 10-14-2012, 02:05 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't see this product going to 1200 a box anytime soon. Boxes are already at a significant premium compared to distributor costs, a 1200 per box price would be about 2.5 times direct cost.

I do not think comparing this product to fleer retro is appropriate. The chance of hitting a monster PMG green/blue is what drives the crazy case cost in this product. Furthermore, there is significant value in the multiple smaller hits that really add up in value. There is no comparable "monster" hit in this. The biggest hits (the exquisite 12, lebron/jordan dual) won't have the sell value anywhere near the retro monsters.

This is coming from someone who bought in big on retro (9 cases) and have a few cases of this product coming.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:16 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I think we have to look at this product differently than we commonly look at product nowadays. Upper Deck obviously can't get the hard signed, low numbered, patch autos of the rookies that we are used to chasing. So they hand to come up with another way to make this product attractive. MJ, forgive me for saying this, but with one Jordan auto per case, there is going to be a flood of his autos. So I believe the chase will now be for an MJ auto that is low numbered or on a shadow box. If any of you guys are familiar with Chrome in baseball and football, the chase will be similar to finding a low numbered red refractor or similar card. Which will unfortuneately make the high numbered Jordan cards throwaway cards (well not really throwaway, but you get my point).
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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talk about flooding the market.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:10 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Remember UD will be checking and double checking ebay for box and case sellers who are not Upper Deck Authorized Internet Retailers, they stressed this point at the dealer seminar in Memphis last week! They did it with Exquisite football and Retro basketball, BTW UD hinted that Exquisite Golf will be made..
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:40 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Oh man, Exquisite Golf... no one here besides me probably cares, but yes please.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh man, Exquisite Golf... no one here besides me probably cares, but yes please.
I care. In fact it is happening for sure. UD just signed Rory, and they are saving him for Exquisite Golf. That is why he wasn't in SP Authentic. Can't wait for a Rory RPA that will sells for TONS.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:26 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the digging and adding up odds. I have a case rendered and can't wait till Tuesday. Should get my moneys worth, even though it would probably be better to hold and sell after 90 days, but what fun would that be? Good luck to all opening this stuff.
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:48 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Oh man, Exquisite Golf... no one here besides me probably cares, but yes please.
This.


Oh man, that will be money. Will they include female golfers as well? Just imagine how much a patch auto of Michelle Wie would go for with the asian collectors...
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:23 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Oh man, Exquisite Golf... no one here besides me probably cares, but yes please.
I talked to the owner of all sports marketing

After he returned from Las vegas convention a few months back

And he said UD was going to do Exquisite golf also in 2013

Rory auto patch to 99
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:27 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Also a little surprised if Exquisite releases on Tuesday

We have not seen anything pop over seas yet...
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I see a few people wondering if they will hold or sell. If selling, pm me. Thanks!
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:33 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Apparently I was wrong about no one in the basketball forum caring about golf. Glad other people are interested in it.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:49 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Apparently I was wrong about no one in the basketball forum caring about golf. Glad other people are interested in it.
I don't know if I'm interested in golf, but I do know I'm interested in making money
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:36 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I appreciate your efforts with the info Cisco! I'm pretty new to the hobby & I also can't wait for this to drop as it'll be my first experience opening an Exquisite product. After having watched many youtube box/case breaks of previous years' Exquisite basketball I also can't fathom some of the negativity directed towards this release. The vast majority of these past breaks made me cringe with alot of no-name rookies pulled and players such as Chris Paul being the 'case hit'. Now - albeit with the huge absence of game worn jerseys/patches and the NBA license - we're guaranteed an on-card autograph of the greatest as well as a very likely Lebron & other legend per case! I'm not in this hobby to profit and for the sheer experience of pulling MJ, LeBron and perhaps even more from a case, despite the added price premium, I would take the gamble on this release over previous Exquisite years any day... Good luck with your breaks guys, looking forward to watching!
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I appreciate your efforts with the info Cisco! I'm pretty new to the hobby & I also can't wait for this to drop as it'll be my first experience opening an Exquisite product. After having watched many youtube box/case breaks of previous years' Exquisite basketball I also can't fathom some of the negativity directed towards this release. The vast majority of these past breaks made me cringe with alot of no-name rookies pulled and players such as Chris Paul being the 'case hit'. Now - albeit with the huge absence of game worn jerseys/patches and the NBA license - we're guaranteed an on-card autograph of the greatest as well as a very likely Lebron & other legend per case! I'm not in this hobby to profit and for the sheer experience of pulling MJ, LeBron and perhaps even more from a case, despite the added price premium, I would take the gamble on this release over previous Exquisite years any day... Good luck with your breaks guys, looking forward to watching!
Thanks alot bro. I feel ya. Good luck to you and your break, let me know what you get.
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
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no breaks yet i dont see it releasing tomorrow
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:21 PM   #42 (permalink)
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no breaks yet i dont see it releasing tomorrow
i just emailed my dist and he said it is live tomorrow...

i will call them in a little bit
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:01 PM   #43 (permalink)
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if its live tomorrow it means they have it already
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:10 PM   #44 (permalink)
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UD confo'd less than 2k cases.

Also, they may not have Limited Logos, but they will have UD Black, so that is a plus.

In the 2008 Exq, you were guaranteed 1 'A' hit per case, but that included players I wouldn't consider 'A' quality like Garnett. Also Durant was one which is great now but most people [not me] complained about then.
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if its live tomorrow it means they have it already
My LHS guy called to say his delivery arrives from the distributor later tonite or tomorrow am depending on the route, and I can pick it up then.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:12 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Yeah UD tweeted me back and said it would be out in time.Hopefully my dealer has it by lunch tomorrow!
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:53 PM   #47 (permalink)
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yea my guy said the same jsut not fedex delivers his
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:29 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Just ordered it will have it Tuesday
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