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Old 10-15-2012, 04:34 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Its funny how all these people will jump on retro band wagon for the next few months thinking all wax will go thru the roof .
Retro like products happens once every five years .

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Old 10-15-2012, 04:35 PM   #27 (permalink)
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cards will sell very well at first and then drop off quick IMO
I can agree with that. I just feel bad for the suckers that paid $900 per box. I only paid $1500 for my case. So my chances of making money are pretty good, but at $900+ when it hits tomorrow, those people are screwed thinking that people other than LBJ or MJ will help recoup their loses.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:37 PM   #28 (permalink)
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"In all, Jordan will appear on at least 895 signed cards — the sum of all numbered cards — in the product along with the Exquisite Dimensions cards that are not signed."

Folks, whether or not you are in for this Exquisite release, 895 is the total number of MJ autograph cards that are serial-numbered. There are 6 more MJ autograph card types in this release that are not serial-numbered.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
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year 900 a box is crazy im in quite a bit less than that
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:40 PM   #30 (permalink)
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but i tihnk any jordan first 2 weeks will sell for 1k
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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So where are the 1,800-2,000 case you speak of if even with your numbers only total 1,085 Total Jordan autographs with a 100% pull rate per case according to Gregg at UD.

Two ways you can get this number. First you need to keep in mind UD is 'saying' that each box will have a base, and a rookie auto. The problem is this:

60 base cards x /99 = 5,940
60 base card x /1 (1 of 1 version) = 60
This equals 6,000 total base cards, with one per box means 6,000 boxes each case having 3 boxes means 2,000 cases.

Now onto the rookies (there are a total of 25 rookie in the product)

25 rookie autos x /199 = 4,975
25 rookie autos (sp version) x /25 = 625
This equals 5,600 rookie auto which equals 5,600 boxes one per, divide by 3 gets you 1,866.6667 cases (which is not possible)

It is because of the numbers above that I state 1,800 - 2,000. The math just adds to that estimate. What would throw everything off is if the breakdown per box is incorrect. Maybe some boxes get extra hits.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:49 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I am guessing that boxes are getting extra hits. I think the guarantee of one Jordan's per case is more FIRM than determining base cards/rookies per box. If there are 2,000 cases and only 1,100 Jordan autographs (MAX) then that is only a 55% pull rate per case. Well sort of the 100% Upper Deck is stating. If that is the case, I don't expect UD to be in business long after this release when they are sued by every LCS in the US.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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imagine if its not 1 jordan per case wow that would be nuts
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and at about 11 pm there will be over 100 jordan exquisite autos on ebay lol
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:59 PM   #35 (permalink)
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and at about 11 pm there will be over 100 jordan exquisite autos on ebay lol
I think you are right on that one. I wonder what the base autographs will be going for at that point. After a week, I hope market saturation doesn't kill the rest of MJ or Lebron's autographs on eBay. I think I am going to enjoy watching eBay for the next week.
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I think you are right on that one. I wonder what the base autographs will be going for at that point. After a week, I hope market saturation doesn't kill the rest of MJ or Lebron's autographs on eBay. I think I am going to enjoy watching eBay for the next week.

i still say a base will be in th 800-1200 range and the more pop ones like bling will be closed to 1500 (thats first week numbers)
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:02 PM   #37 (permalink)
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and the reason i have been pumping exquisite is because im tried on panini and all of these sticker autos and #@#@#@#@ designs
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tired of i meant
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and the reason i have been pumping exquisite is because im tried on panini and all of these sticker autos and #@#@#@#@ designs
I can agree to that. I have been shifting focus to baseball for this reason. Still prefer basketball, but when crap cards are being produced, I have to pick something. Plus, I like Topps, they are generally pretty good with designs and on card autographs and fast redemption process.

Also, I didn't mean anything by saying you pump Exquisite. I just find it funny that people really push a product; or hate a product. It's always one or the other.
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I can agree to that. I have been shifting focus to baseball for this reason. Still prefer basketball, but when crap cards are being produced, I have to pick something. Plus, I like Topps, they are generally pretty good with designs and on card autographs and fast redemption process.

Also, I didn't mean anything by saying you pump Exquisite. I just find it funny that people really push a product; or hate a product. It's always one or the other.

lol true and topps is by far by fav product love bowman chrome baseball and topps chrome football always open multiple cases of both
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I just read that Jordan has 895 autos in the set from like 60+ different cards.
Oh no!

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this forum is going to be nuts tomorrow. haha
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this forum is going to be nuts tomorrow. haha
lol u have no idea i will have my case or 2 break live tomorrow around noon hopefully
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this forum is going to be nuts tomorrow. haha
Yes it will. Only UD products get REAL forum action, Panini only wished people would talk about their product even a quarter as much as UD products.
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Yes it will. Only UD products get REAL forum action, Panini only wished people would talk about their product even a quarter as much as UD products.
theres going to be like a billion threads! haha which might get annoying.

i will look forward to the box break threads though.
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Can't wait to watch breakers bust cases and lose $1000s.
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Can't wait to watch breakers bust cases and lose $1000s.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:26 PM   #50 (permalink)
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lol why would anyone wish for people to lose money get a life
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