James Hardin to the rockets - Page 4

alexcampos · 10-28-2012, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by phishphood318

He chose to go to a team who would START HIM! And give him 60 Millions Dollars to play basketball.

He had a good role in OKC, and he proved it by winning 6th man of the year. Some players play better off the bench than starting.....I'm not saying that's the case for Harden, but now he'll have to prove that he's worth that extra $5 million.

AllStars2324 · 10-28-2012, 02:09 AM

Harden is a great player. I think OKC definitely got worse instead of better from the deal. I understand it was about money but I think they should have done anything to keep the trio of Durant/Westbrook/Harden together...

MikeMamba · 10-28-2012, 02:22 AM

Kevin Martin will suck coming off the bench.

OKC might have an even worse bench than the Lakers now LOL

MikeMamba · 10-28-2012, 02:22 AM

Who is Hardin though?

gamboooler · 10-28-2012, 02:43 AM

Whatever your opinion of the actual trade, Harden comes out looking a little two-faced and selfish. He's been talking about sacrifice, brotherhood, camaraderie, and a chance at a title for months. The team offered him 4/55.5 when they could have offered 4/60. Not exactly a huge sacrifice. Westbrook left $16 million over 5 years on the table, and Ibaka probably left a little money on the table, too. But Harden wanted a max and I think he wants to be the guy. So he's gone. It's been interesting to watch him develop. He had nowhere near this type of swag his first year in the league, and now he's this basketball-playing hipster god. I think he just outgrew the team. Oh well.

Normally, I'm all about everyone going out and getting theirs. Get the best deal you can for yourself, and you shouldn't have to answer to anyone. But don't lead on a fanbase and essentially lie to their faces when you're talking about all this stuff you clearly don't care about. Just be a man about it. You want a max, you deserve a max, go and get a max. No need to talk about sacrifice.

Now I need to change my avatar.

Knicker_Please · 10-28-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeMamba

Who is Hardin though?

it's James Hardin, he's on the rockits now! I think him and jerimy will be good togethir...

bettydaw1970 · 10-28-2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AllStars2324

Harden is a great player. I think OKC definitely got worse instead of better from the deal. I understand it was about money but I think they should have done anything to keep the trio of Durant/Westbrook/Harden together...

yea..breaking up that trio, when they were on the brink of a championship...it just dosent sit well with me..

cowboyzqna · 10-28-2012, 03:22 AM

Okc did well in this trade imo. If Harden wanted to stay he would have left alittle on the table and signed. He was leaving next year anyhow so they essentially turned nothing into picks, potential and a professional.

CP3toOKC · 10-28-2012, 03:31 AM

You see how Jeff Green was also part of the original trio, they traded him too. IMO I rather would have Jeff Green than Harden but w/e

cruiserdaddy7 · 10-28-2012, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by alexcampos

BULLSH!T

Better source or branded as troll!

Real troll of the thread it appears would be you. With that said with Martin and Lamb also 2 first round picks i think OKC did quite well. In a year many will agree.

alexcampos · 10-28-2012, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Real troll of the thread it appears would be you.

You caught me man

Protip: Next time come earlier and maybe....just maybe, you'll understand the context of earlier comments.

yountman · 10-28-2012, 07:13 AM

Wow just read this here first. Great trade for both teams imo, but this should help Hardens fantasy and hobby stock

tennelson55 · 10-28-2012, 07:39 AM

Okc didn't get Kevin martin.

DrJ Converse · 10-28-2012, 07:49 AM

Okc made a nice decision. Max contract players need to be Superstars/Franchise type assets or they will kill you in slary cap space for a long long time.

Harden is a nice player but not one you build a team around, so it was in their best financial judgement to send him packing. The Heat exposed in him the finals though as a streaky jump shooter who has a tough time creating his own shot when the D is turned up.

Shaun941 · 10-28-2012, 08:54 AM

I don't think it was about the 5 mill. I think he wanted to prove he can be the go to guy on his own team. I think it's a pretty even trade trade, Jeremy Lamb is actually a better shooter than Harden.

theautographkid · 10-28-2012, 09:05 AM

My only input in this, is that OKC made a HUGE mistake. Not only did they give up too much, but they are basically saying "The Heat and Lakers will win, we will wait until they can't"

Haiku · 10-28-2012, 10:02 AM

When Harden came off the bench he brought energy when he came to the floor.
Martin can stretch the floor but I don't think he can create plays for others like Harden did, Harden has lost his 15mins of fame now that he is in houston.
He may play a bigger role but won't get the spot light since no one cares about houston.
With Lin being there they'll get some prime time games but I don't think Harden will be a Franchise superstar as some may expect him to be.

rockyou · 10-28-2012, 10:31 AM

Harden choked big time in the finals with back to back 2 for 10 shooting games with critical turnovers, horrible finals for him! Played like a fool.
Even trade!!!!

IamRalpho · 10-28-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

Okc didn't get Kevin martin.

Huh? Should probably check that again bud

murrke03 · 10-28-2012, 10:44 AM

Right now this is a step back for the Thunder. As someone said though it was probably a deal that had to be made though.

Future draft picks are never a guarantee so that is not something to count on.

scqg · 10-28-2012, 11:30 AM

harden is no doubt a great player but you couldn't bank your future with four highly paid players. you gotta leave a little cap space for some talents. okc is not a big market team so they wanna avoid paying luxury tax as much as possible. i think they got some good future assets with the trade. kevin martin may not be a perfect replacement for harden but he sure brings some shooting to okc. leave the defense to thabo i guess. those future picks could still be traded elsewhere in exchange for some other talents when the right deal comes. i don't have idea on jeremy lamb but he's a top 12 picks so i guess there's something in him.

claw11x · 10-28-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by armyatc22

I think they did a great job since he would have prob just walked over to either the Bulls or Heat in my eyes...

They have so much cap room...

pepsiporch · 10-28-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by claw11x

They have so much cap room...

Who thunder are over the cap and will be next year

tajikey · 10-28-2012, 03:31 PM

I don't see how this is a bad trade for OKC. As many others have said, Harden is a bench player, so to get two first round picks, plus a potential third, it seems that OKC made out like bandits.

Plus, with how well they develop players (like Harden), I think OKC still represents the West in the Finals this year. The Lakers look good on paper, but Howard doesn't add anything different than what they lost in Bynum, and Nash isn't the shooting type. Bryant will still shoulder the responsibility of carrying the entire team.

IamRalpho · 10-28-2012, 03:51 PM

Bulls and Heat have no cap room I think is what he meant

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10-28-2012, 02:43 AM	#80 (permalink)
gamboooler Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,609 gamboooler	Whatever your opinion of the actual trade, Harden comes out looking a little two-faced and selfish. He's been talking about sacrifice, brotherhood, camaraderie, and a chance at a title for months. The team offered him 4/55.5 when they could have offered 4/60. Not exactly a huge sacrifice. Westbrook left $16 million over 5 years on the table, and Ibaka probably left a little money on the table, too. But Harden wanted a max and I think he wants to be the guy. So he's gone. It's been interesting to watch him develop. He had nowhere near this type of swag his first year in the league, and now he's this basketball-playing hipster god. I think he just outgrew the team. Oh well. Normally, I'm all about everyone going out and getting theirs. Get the best deal you can for yourself, and you shouldn't have to answer to anyone. But don't lead on a fanbase and essentially lie to their faces when you're talking about all this stuff you clearly don't care about. Just be a man about it. You want a max, you deserve a max, go and get a max. No need to talk about sacrifice. Now I need to change my avatar. __________________ When I post a price, I will not respond if you ask for a "best price" of if I "can do any better." If you want a better price than the one posted, please counter-offer.

10-28-2012, 03:22 AM	#83 (permalink)
cowboyzqna Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moundridge KS Posts: 1,858	Okc did well in this trade imo. If Harden wanted to stay he would have left alittle on the table and signed. He was leaving next year anyhow so they essentially turned nothing into picks, potential and a professional. __________________ AFTER AUSTIN Currently Collecting Austin Meadows

10-28-2012, 03:31 AM	#84 (permalink)
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10-28-2012, 02:09 AM	#77 (permalink)
AllStars2324 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 459	Harden is a great player. I think OKC definitely got worse instead of better from the deal. I understand it was about money but I think they should have done anything to keep the trio of Durant/Westbrook/Harden together...

10-28-2012, 07:13 AM	#87 (permalink)
yountman Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 27	Wow just read this here first. Great trade for both teams imo, but this should help Hardens fantasy and hobby stock

10-28-2012, 07:39 AM	#88 (permalink)
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10-28-2012, 07:49 AM	#89 (permalink)
DrJ Converse Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 854	Okc made a nice decision. Max contract players need to be Superstars/Franchise type assets or they will kill you in slary cap space for a long long time. Harden is a nice player but not one you build a team around, so it was in their best financial judgement to send him packing. The Heat exposed in him the finals though as a streaky jump shooter who has a tough time creating his own shot when the D is turned up.

10-28-2012, 08:54 AM	#90 (permalink)
Shaun941 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 628	I don't think it was about the 5 mill. I think he wanted to prove he can be the go to guy on his own team. I think it's a pretty even trade trade, Jeremy Lamb is actually a better shooter than Harden. __________________ Orlando Magic all day.

10-28-2012, 09:05 AM	#91 (permalink)
theautographkid Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,819 theautographkid2	My only input in this, is that OKC made a HUGE mistake. Not only did they give up too much, but they are basically saying "The Heat and Lakers will win, we will wait until they can't" __________________ Super collecting LeBron James Also looking for Beanie Wells, and Ohio State. Future student at Ohio State http://s1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb321/theautographkid1/

10-28-2012, 10:02 AM	#92 (permalink)
Haiku Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,492 Mr.Me Too I collect slave owners	When Harden came off the bench he brought energy when he came to the floor. Martin can stretch the floor but I don't think he can create plays for others like Harden did, Harden has lost his 15mins of fame now that he is in houston. He may play a bigger role but won't get the spot light since no one cares about houston. With Lin being there they'll get some prime time games but I don't think Harden will be a Franchise superstar as some may expect him to be.

10-28-2012, 10:31 AM	#93 (permalink)
rockyou Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 38	Harden choked big time in the finals with back to back 2 for 10 shooting games with critical turnovers, horrible finals for him! Played like a fool. Even trade!!!!

10-28-2012, 10:44 AM	#95 (permalink)
murrke03 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 8,058 murrke03	Right now this is a step back for the Thunder. As someone said though it was probably a deal that had to be made though. Future draft picks are never a guarantee so that is not something to count on. __________________ Looking for Reece Gaines.

10-28-2012, 11:30 AM	#96 (permalink)
scqg Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 121 scqg	harden is no doubt a great player but you couldn't bank your future with four highly paid players. you gotta leave a little cap space for some talents. okc is not a big market team so they wanna avoid paying luxury tax as much as possible. i think they got some good future assets with the trade. kevin martin may not be a perfect replacement for harden but he sure brings some shooting to okc. leave the defense to thabo i guess. those future picks could still be traded elsewhere in exchange for some other talents when the right deal comes. i don't have idea on jeremy lamb but he's a top 12 picks so i guess there's something in him. __________________ collecting mj 90s inserts bgs9 and up

10-28-2012, 03:31 PM	#99 (permalink)
tajikey Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 6,786 tajikey tajikey	I don't see how this is a bad trade for OKC. As many others have said, Harden is a bench player, so to get two first round picks, plus a potential third, it seems that OKC made out like bandits. Plus, with how well they develop players (like Harden), I think OKC still represents the West in the Finals this year. The Lakers look good on paper, but Howard doesn't add anything different than what they lost in Bynum, and Nash isn't the shooting type. Bryant will still shoulder the responsibility of carrying the entire team. __________________ Accepting Backups in my 5-Case Bowman Inception Hit Draft Break. $23.50 for the initial slot, $21.50 for additional.

10-28-2012, 03:51 PM	#100 (permalink)
IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 6,950 IamSilly	Bulls and Heat have no cap room I think is what he meant

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