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Old 10-31-2012, 01:00 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Why would you have to jump on it right away if the guy is just sending emails?

So this bookie has to check emails and time stamps to make sure all bets are in before the start of the second half? Do you get a confirmation from him that he receives your bet? Why not wait until a 2nd half kickoff is returned for a TD and then bet 10k over? Just the email was lost in Internet space for a few minutes.
lol, you probably could. That karma is a bitch though. There is something called time stamped emails, perhaps you have heard about that. I have had bets disallowed in the past.

I jumped on it, he sent it out a few minutes early and wanted to get it in, what is so hard to understand? Are you sure you are American?
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lol, you probably could. That karma is a bitch though. There is something called time stamped emails, perhaps you have heard about that. I have had bets disallowed in the past.

I jumped on it, he sent it out a few minutes early and wanted to get it in, what is so hard to understand? Are you sure you are American?
What does me being American have to do with anything?

Yes I am. Born and raised in Philadelphia.
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What does me being American have to do with anything?

Yes I am. Born and raised in Philadelphia.
Making sure you understood figure of speech, when someone jumps on an email it isn't literally.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:09 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Hey JT sherlock, am I allowed to have a game total of 187 in the Laker game, or is that physically impossible in your known universe?
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3-1 on the laker game, 2-0 at the half, nice follow of the 3-1 on the Celts game after an eye-opening first game against two teams that don't want to score or win, tripped up late for a perfect 0-4.

6-6 on the night, we will take that happily and pay the $60 in vig. Thanks folks, do it again tomorrow.

Glad you cashed Broncomanning.

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A good start to the season and the typical NBA moose for the under betters. I don't bet the NBA much but there are times when I like things..

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thanks Pau Gasol for fouling and hitting the 3, we both shouldnt have won
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This is why I don't bet the NBA the sh1t is so fixed it isn't even funny.. How many other leagues have had a ref busted for fixing games and people still bet on it.
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yeah, sorry guys but you must love pain. i would rather have someone twist my scrotum with rusty pliers than bet on the nba every night. betting on the nba is a ticket to a early grave and or cardboard box mansion. normal in the nba is to go a night without having a bad beat.

can't wait to see how much eric mucks up this thread. if he bets one every game and halftime of the nba this thread will be at 50 pages by the weekend. i didn't read everything but how many halftime 20x bailout hedge mega plays did he post tonight?
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yeah, sorry guys but you must love pain. i would rather have someone twist my scrotum with rusty pliers than bet on the nba every night. betting on the nba is a ticket to a early grave and or cardboard box mansion. normal in the nba is to go a night without having a bad beat.

can't wait to see how much eric mucks up this thread. if he bets one every game and halftime of the nba this thread will be at 50 pages by the weekend. i didn't read everything but how many halftime 20x bailout hedge mega plays did he post tonight?
Thank god you won't be here much, we have already met our quota of ass holess.
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A good start to the season and the typical NBA moose for the under betters. I don't bet the NBA much but there are times when I like things..

STRAIGHT BET
[505] DAL MAVERICKS +8-110

66 / 60


Oct 30 07:50 PM
INTERNET / -1 Oct 30 07:41 PM
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[505] DAL MAVERICKS +385

21 / 80
I think we all should post 3 hours after the game has started too.
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I think we all should post 3 hours after the game has started too.
at least I bet with real money and not fake 20x's bets like you.. I would post my plays but they get buried by the shat you post
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For those that took Dallas last night, what was the rationale? with nowitzki and kaman out and lakers and playing at home with kobe and howard in lineup, i was suprised by guys taking this pick. Obviously it hit, so great bet, i watched the first half of game, more than anything, seemed like the Lakers just aren't that good. Was that the thinking going into the game, or was it just too many points. I took the lakers 1Q, i was going to take them heavy -8.5, so glad i didn't, the 1Q bet i felt was the luckiest win.
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For those that took Dallas last night, what was the rationale? with nowitzki and kaman out and lakers and playing at home with kobe and howard in lineup, i was suprised by guys taking this pick. Obviously it hit, so great bet, i watched the first half of game, more than anything, seemed like the Lakers just aren't that good. Was that the thinking going into the game, or was it just too many points. I took the lakers 1Q, i was going to take them heavy -8.5, so glad i didn't, the 1Q bet i felt was the luckiest win.
I was thinking the same thing... out of the 3 games last night this was the one i was most concerned about... im not surprised the lakers lost though. There isnt any chemistry yet. You cant throw a team that hasnt played together before and expect them to really dominate.

It will be interesting to see what the line will be when they play at the blazers tonight considering they dont have a good track record of winning there and the blaxers have a much better team than dallas right now. All the money will be on blazers tonight. Hmmmm anyone agree?
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For those that took Dallas last night, what was the rationale? with nowitzki and kaman out and lakers and playing at home with kobe and howard in lineup, i was suprised by guys taking this pick. Obviously it hit, so great bet, i watched the first half of game, more than anything, seemed like the Lakers just aren't that good. Was that the thinking going into the game, or was it just too many points. I took the lakers 1Q, i was going to take them heavy -8.5, so glad i didn't, the 1Q bet i felt was the luckiest win.
squares were all over the Lake Show... People see dirk a caveman out so they were hammering the lakers... Doesn't work all the time but hits more often than not. at +385 it was worth the gamble on the money line.
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I was thinking the same thing... out of the 3 games last night this was the one i was most concerned about... im not surprised the lakers lost though. There isnt any chemistry yet. You cant throw a team that hasnt played together before and expect them to really dominate.

It will be interesting to see what the line will be when they play at the blazers tonight considering they dont have a good track record of winning there and the blaxers have a much better team than dallas right now. All the money will be on blazers tonight. Hmmmm anyone agree?
The Lakers will always be public, people will always bet them. The lower the line the more people will be on them.

I doubt all the money will be on the Blazers, there will be people out there thinking the Lakers won't lose 2 in a row.
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Those of you who want to learn who to bet on sports the right way go here and read.

Live Spread Betting

If you are into math and really want to do this seriously it is a good read, if you want to just bet for action then don't bother.

I don't do this to waste money, I actually try to be smart about my selections and make a profit. It doesn't always workout that way but I am never in over my head.

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I am a professional handicapper (not going to mention my website as I assume that's against the rules) and thought I'd share my play with everyone for free tonight. I was the most followed online handicapper in the NBA with 1.7 million views on my thread in 1 year on the biggest sports betting forum. I am not saying this to brag but rather so you know that I am not some degenerate who puts up squre/unthought out plays.

San Antonio Spurs -4 1st Half

I am going to be playing the San Antonio Spurs in the 1st half against the New Orleans Hornets. First off, this line in itself is very telling. The game line is -6.5 which ALWAYS equates to a 1st half line of -3.5 yet the books are bumping this up to -4. I think that's a tipping of their cap off that bat.

I am mainly playing this based on the chemistry of the two teams. The Spurs have the same exact team coming back this season except I think they will be better due to their young players growing and improving after their first full playing season. I think you will see Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green make an even bigger impact this season than they did last year. Both now have a year of starting under their belt. Tim Duncan looked great in preseason averaging 12.5ppg and shooting 55.4% from the field in 6 games. The Spurs acquired Boris Diaw late last year at the end of the season and he was a very effective player that should be even better now with a full training camp. Tony Parker is still Tony Parker. The bench with Gary Neal, Stephen Jackson, Tiago Splitter and Matt Bonner is still all intact and will be very effective again with the built up chemistry. They still have the best coach in the NBA in my mind in Greg Popovich and the Spurs should be rock solid as always again. Teams like the Spurs really play well early in the season because they don't have to make any adjustments to play to 100% efficiency, they know exactly how they need to play to win games.

The New Orleans Hornets on the other hand have a completely new, young team. It will most definitely take them a while to build up the chemistry to compete with teams like the Spurs, probably more than a full season. The Hornets have a new PG in Grevis Vasquez. He honestly isn't very good and is not of starting PG caliber but the Hornets have no one else. Erc Gordon is their SG and he is a great player but he is injured tonight. He probably won't play and if he does it will be in a bench role where I don't expect him to make a big impact. They added Austin Rivers in the draft who I think will be starting at SG. He is a very streaky player and I think it will take him a while to start being efficient, think Jimmer Fredetter last season. They have a new full time starting SF in Al-Farouq Aminu, again this is another guy who has not shown me he is good enough to start in the NBA. He averaged 5ppg, 4.7 rebounds. They added Anthony Davis, #1 overall pick, as their starting PF. He is still extremely young at 19 and very raw. His offensive game needs a ton of work but he will do some good things on defense in terms of blocking shots. I think bigger guys like Duncan will have the upper hand though with him in his 1st season. They also have a new Center in Robin Lopez. I have never liked him and I know for a fact he shouldn't be starting. All in all, they will have 5 completely new starters playing together. They will have zero chemistry and most of these guys really aren't even close to starter quality. The only effective bench piece they have is Ryan Anderson, other than him I don't really see anyone who will make an impact on offense or defense. Guys like Xavier Henry, Darius Miller, Brian Roberts, Lance Thomas and Hakim Warrick are all borderline D-League players who only made the team because the Hornets are so bad to begin with. Most would have been cut on other teams.

Another factor I see in this game will be the nerves of the young Hornets. I think this team will come out very hesitant and nervous in their 1st game. For the 1st time this team actually has some sort of positive expectations and I think they will feel the pressure. This cast of Spurs players has played in a ton of big Playoffs/Finals game and a opening game in New Orleans is nothing that will rattle them. They should be much more loose than their opponent tonight.

I think the big advantage the Spurs will have will be on offense. They will be running the high pick and roll offense as usual and they will pick apart this Hornets defense that is sure to have a ton of holes tonight with all the new additions. On offense, I think the Hornets will struggle due to lack of good shooters. The Spurs bait teams into taking long shots and Rivers, Vasquez, Aminu and Lopez are far from knockdown shooters. The only guy the Spurs will have to worry about in that regard is Ryan Anderson. He is the one guy I do believe will have a good game for New Orleans but I don't really see anyone else. Tony Parker should have his way with Vasquez and Duncan should have the upperhand on Davis. Kawhi Leonard should also have a big game matched up with Aminu. I think the Spurs will probably be up by around 7-10 points.

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squares were all over the Lake Show... People see dirk a caveman out so they were hammering the lakers... Doesn't work all the time but hits more often than not. at +385 it was worth the gamble on the money line.
Exactly, it is not rocket science, sometimes it is an easy as betting against the squares and being on the side of the books. Books make money over long haul so why not bet the teams they need on a regular basis.
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Those of you who want to learn who to bet on sports the right way go here and read.

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If you are into math and really want to do this seriously it is a good read, if you want to just bet for action then don't bother.

I don't do this to waste money, I actually try to be smart about my selections and make a profit. It doesn't always workout that way but I am never in over my head.
I'd be interested to know what your picks are tonight?
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The Lakers will always be public, people will always bet them. The lower the line the more people will be on them.

I doubt all the money will be on the Blazers, there will be people out there thinking the Lakers won't lose 2 in a row.
This guy gets it.. one of the few in the threads who do
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I'd be interested to know what your picks are tonight?
Basketball is a tough sport to bet, I did great last year with the schedule being what it was. You had teams playing 4 games a week and you could see teams taking nights off. You have a lot of big underdogs winning out right.

I have being killing it in college football this year so I got some money to play with, my NBA and NCAA plays are a fraction of my football plays.

With that said, I am looking at the Blazers, New Orleans, and Raptors. Not sure if I will bet all or just one. Will post later.

I wrote the Kings off early because I think there is enough squares out there who think the Bulls are terrible without Rose and 7 is too high.
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I like blazers clips and n.o... on the fence with den and chi
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I am a professional handicapper (not going to mention my website as I assume that's against the rules) and thought I'd share my play with everyone for free tonight. I was the most followed online handicapper in the NBA with 1.7 million views on my thread in 1 year on the biggest sports betting forum. I am not saying this to brag but rather so you know that I am not some degenerate who puts up squre/unthought out plays.

San Antonio Spurs -4 1st Half

I am going to be playing the San Antonio Spurs in the 1st half against the New Orleans Hornets. First off, this line in itself is very telling. The game line is -6.5 which ALWAYS equates to a 1st half line of -3.5 yet the books are bumping this up to -4. I think that's a tipping of their cap off that bat.

I am mainly playing this based on the chemistry of the two teams. The Spurs have the same exact team coming back this season except I think they will be better due to their young players growing and improving after their first full playing season. I think you will see Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green make an even bigger impact this season than they did last year. Both now have a year of starting under their belt. Tim Duncan looked great in preseason averaging 12.5ppg and shooting 55.4% from the field in 6 games. The Spurs acquired Boris Diaw late last year at the end of the season and he was a very effective player that should be even better now with a full training camp. Tony Parker is still Tony Parker. The bench with Gary Neal, Stephen Jackson, Tiago Splitter and Matt Bonner is still all intact and will be very effective again with the built up chemistry. They still have the best coach in the NBA in my mind in Greg Popovich and the Spurs should be rock solid as always again. Teams like the Spurs really play well early in the season because they don't have to make any adjustments to play to 100% efficiency, they know exactly how they need to play to win games.

The New Orleans Hornets on the other hand have a completely new, young team. It will most definitely take them a while to build up the chemistry to compete with teams like the Spurs, probably more than a full season. The Hornets have a new PG in Grevis Vasquez. He honestly isn't very good and is not of starting PG caliber but the Hornets have no one else. Erc Gordon is their SG and he is a great player but he is injured tonight. He probably won't play and if he does it will be in a bench role where I don't expect him to make a big impact. They added Austin Rivers in the draft who I think will be starting at SG. He is a very streaky player and I think it will take him a while to start being efficient, think Jimmer Fredetter last season. They have a new full time starting SF in Al-Farouq Aminu, again this is another guy who has not shown me he is good enough to start in the NBA. He averaged 5ppg, 4.7 rebounds. They added Anthony Davis, #1 overall pick, as their starting PF. He is still extremely young at 19 and very raw. His offensive game needs a ton of work but he will do some good things on defense in terms of blocking shots. I think bigger guys like Duncan will have the upper hand though with him in his 1st season. They also have a new Center in Robin Lopez. I have never liked him and I know for a fact he shouldn't be starting. All in all, they will have 5 completely new starters playing together. They will have zero chemistry and most of these guys really aren't even close to starter quality. The only effective bench piece they have is Ryan Anderson, other than him I don't really see anyone who will make an impact on offense or defense. Guys like Xavier Henry, Darius Miller, Brian Roberts, Lance Thomas and Hakim Warrick are all borderline D-League players who only made the team because the Hornets are so bad to begin with. Most would have been cut on other teams.

Another factor I see in this game will be the nerves of the young Hornets. I think this team will come out very hesitant and nervous in their 1st game. For the 1st time this team actually has some sort of positive expectations and I think they will feel the pressure. This cast of Spurs players has played in a ton of big Playoffs/Finals game and a opening game in New Orleans is nothing that will rattle them. They should be much more loose than their opponent tonight.

I think the big advantage the Spurs will have will be on offense. They will be running the high pick and roll offense as usual and they will pick apart this Hornets defense that is sure to have a ton of holes tonight with all the new additions. On offense, I think the Hornets will struggle due to lack of good shooters. The Spurs bait teams into taking long shots and Rivers, Vasquez, Aminu and Lopez are far from knockdown shooters. The only guy the Spurs will have to worry about in that regard is Ryan Anderson. He is the one guy I do believe will have a good game for New Orleans but I don't really see anyone else. Tony Parker should have his way with Vasquez and Duncan should have the upperhand on Davis. Kawhi Leonard should also have a big game matched up with Aminu. I think the Spurs will probably be up by around 7-10 points.
Manu Ginobili didn't even travel with the team to New Orleans, you might want to mention that they are missing one of their big 3 if you are going to go into such a detailed analysis. I will add that the Spurs swept them last year, 4-0, and are 11-2 in 13 meetings, including two straight on the road in NO.

I find it strange that if this is such a mismatch and you feel strongly about it you will condense your bet into a -4 for a half and face the risk of poor shooting out of the gate and lack of a rhythm in an opening night game rather than laying an additional bucket or 3 pter (line is 6-7) since you know this team can close out games with their experience, no pressure to 'close out' a half. A lot of people thought -5 with the lakers was a good pick too.

I like them for the game, first half seems a bit risky IMO.

I wish you the best, just my initial thoughts.

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that always seems too obvious to me, then i overthink the bet too much. Of course the lakers get action, same with knicks, yankees, etc. I just think everyone knows that. i think anyone who is successful with sports gambling, probably less than .1% of bettors, are good with the odds and juice and probabilities, or have a good inside person on different teams. The way Jimmy the Greek used to make money, getting the local papers and stuff. Too much info is readily available these days on internet so tough to get an edge, but you need to get an edge somehow to be successful.
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