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Old 10-31-2012, 01:19 PM   #126 (permalink)
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That is BS, there are more wiseguys and sharp players betting in places illegally then rich guys sitting in Las Vegas. You really think that big players aren't taking advantage of street lines and bubble gum bookies? AC had one of the biggest books around. It was run out of the Borgota by the mob.

You seem to think that Las Vegas is the only place where sharp players bet, that just isn't true.
i know the book at the borgata, hahah, there were always guys running all over the poker room taking action, loaning money etc. But i must say, i don't think there were any sharp players or wiseguys in the bunch, more like a bunch of degenerates losing money. The sharp players and wiseguys were the ones taking the action or loaning the money.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:20 PM   #127 (permalink)
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You and Wolffer must be brothers. You don't post ANY of your football picks, just criticize others (yet you seem to have all the time in the world to kill), but are "killing it" and Wolffer posts his 3 hours after the game begins, and takes a huge underdog...on the moneyline no less

At least I post everything I play.
I don't post over there because I can't stand reading your nonsense. I did in the beginning but after you started with the 40x plays and halftime nonsense, I just stopped bothering to check that thread. That thread is full of sh!t.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:25 PM   #128 (permalink)
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i know the book at the borgata, hahah, there were always guys running all over the poker room taking action, loaning money etc. But i must say, i don't think there were any sharp players or wiseguys in the bunch, more like a bunch of degenerates losing money. The sharp players and wiseguys were the ones taking the action or loaning the money.
There were so really sharp action coming from there, they had used a site called beteagle.com to take the action. Most likely the people at the casino where up for days and losing money left and right.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:43 PM   #129 (permalink)
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I don't post over there because I can't stand reading your nonsense. I did in the beginning but after you started with the 40x plays and halftime nonsense, I just stopped bothering to check that thread. That thread is full of sh!t.
funny how when I clicked on your name and on your posts since the inception of the football thread (1200+ posts, spanning 8+ weeks), you have ZERO posts that include a play. ZERO. ZERO. Don't get me wrong, you sure found time to criticize others, but you posted ZERO plays. Maybe a post with an opinion (wrong by the way), but that is about it.

So you might want to get your story straight before criticizing others, though you will do it anyway.

Gio ~ please give him the last word, he is worse than a girl when it comes to that.

I can't tell you how much better that thread has become since you and your non-contributing comments migrated over here, refreshing.

Yes, we know you are 1-0 here (he posted Dallas yesterday folks) but someone who has been 'killing it in NFL and NCAA' who doesn't post one play is suspect.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:46 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Do you really think Vegas doesn't know in advance which games will get bet heavy by the line they release? They set the line according to their line systems not by the public. The public doesn't always move a line, sharp money does. I have heard of Billy Walters and if makes a big move on a game he will move the line by himself even if the public is on the other side. Vegas doesn't respect the public or their money. There are big movers in this business and they move lines. If you hit 58% of your games then that is a great number especially if you can get reduced juice at places like 5 dimes or pinbet.

Reduced juice is key to a good money managment system for big players. Do agree?
They know where the early money will come in on games but they know they will eventually move the line 0.5-1 point and get money on the other side and even it out. And yes you are correct, the public does not move the line at all. It is guys betting $10,000+. Just because a big money bettor bets a game and the line moves though does not mean it's the right side. There are people betting huge amounts who sometimes are on the wrong side. Reduced juice is key, any advantage you can get on the books in that respect is key.

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Old 10-31-2012, 01:46 PM   #131 (permalink)
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funny how when I clicked on your name and on your posts since the inception of the football thread (1200+ posts, spanning 8+ weeks), you have ZERO posts that include a play. ZERO. ZERO. Don't get me wrong, you sure found time to criticize others, but you posted ZERO plays. Maybe a post with an opinion (wrong by the way), but that is about it.

So you might want to get your story straight before criticizing others, though you will do it anyway.

Gio ~ please give him the last word, he is worse than a girl when it comes to that.

I can't tell you how much better that thread has become since you and your non-contributing comments migrated over here, refreshing.

Yes, we know you are 1-0 here (he posted Dallas yesterday folks) but someone who has been 'killing it in NFL and NCAA' who doesn't post one play is suspect.
Sports betting (NFL & NCAA)

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done with the arguing, I am just going to contribute to thread...Should be interesting to say the least.

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Old 10-31-2012, 01:53 PM   #132 (permalink)
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JT, Eric, myself. We just ruined this thread in the last two pages, lol. Lets just all get on the same page here and help each other out. That's what this is about. GL tonight and Go Spurs 1H!
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:55 PM   #133 (permalink)
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JT, Eric, myself. We just ruined this thread in the last two pages, lol. Lets just all get on the same page here and help each other out. That's what this is about. GL tonight and Go Spurs 1H!
I agree, but if you read back there is some interesting points being made. GL
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done with the arguing, I am just going to contribute to thread...Should be interesting to say the least.
So wait.....your claim to fame is posting ONE single post with your plays and going an unfathomable 0-7 and 0-4 on your "Max" plays and have the audacity to sh!t on every single post I make? Yet you are "killing it in NFL and NCAA" ?

And you "left the thread" because of me? The same person who hasn't posted one play on 2 months, really?
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So wait.....your claim to fame is posting ONE single post with your plays and going an unfathomable 0-7 and 0-4 on your "Max" plays and have the audacity to sh!t on every single post I make? Yet you are "killing it in NFL and NCAA" ?

And you "left the thread" because of me? The same person who hasn't posted one play on 2 months, really?
Max plays
Mich St
SMU
Under PSU Winner
BC

Other plays
Northern Ill Winner
West Mich
Michigan

PSU went under the total and Northern Ill lost by one..I was getting 7.5.

So 2-5...I am not afraid to post my plays and lose. The first week of college is always tough because you are betting blind. Michigan was extremely overrated. As you can see, most of those where dog plays and I stayed the course and might a decent comeback. I don't have anything to hide, unlike you who just make stuff up.

And I actually posted that I took UCF and over in the Ohio St/UCF game the next week, I think that was all I post before I went away on vacation, so I guess my record would be 4-5.

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Mich St
SMU
Under PSU Winner
BC

Other plays
Northern Ill Winner
West Mich
Michigan

PSU went under the total and Northern Ill lost by one..I was getting 7.5.

So 2-5...I am not afraid to post my plays and lose. The first week of college is always tough because you are betting blind. Michigan was extremely overrated. As you can see, most of those where dog plays and I stayed the course and might a decent comeback. I don't have anything to hide, unlike you who just make stuff up.
yeah, 1-3 on your "max play" is great

Of course you made money since, you haven't posted a play in 2 months....yet I am the one who makes stuff up lol.

Stay classy, can't wait to fade your picks tonight.
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yeah, 1-3 on your "max play" is great

Of course you made money since, you haven't posted a play in 2 months....yet I am the one who makes stuff up lol.

Stay classy, can't wait to fade your picks tonight.
Cool, all a mentioned in the NBA thread was that I made a profit in NCAA and was using that money to bet basketball, I never claimed to be a great handicapper. I might lose every single game I post for the rest of the season. I just know that I will try to be on the right side (the bookie side) and that my plays are real. Either 1x or 2x for max plays.

I will not bet teasers, parlays, hedge every single bet, bet 1st halves, 2nd halves and all the stuff that will hurt me in the long run.

I am the first one to call you out on this thread, but you have been called out before on the football for lying about your record and then you claimed to be drunk. So yeah I think you are the one making stuff up.

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yeah, 1-3 on your "max play" is great

Of course you made money since, you haven't posted a play in 2 months....yet I am the one who makes stuff up lol.

Stay classy, can't wait to fade your picks tonight.
So I just want to get this straight, you bet 13 bets last night on 3 games?

13 bets and went 6-6-1. 3 games.

I can't wait to see how many bets you make tonight. 9 games tonight so 40 bets maybe? I can't wait to see this sh!t show. Even if you only bet half of the games tonight we are still looking at over 25 bets.
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Cool, all a mentioned in the NBA thread was that I made a profit in NCAA and was using that money to bet basketball, I never claimed to be a great handicapper. I might lose every single game I post for the rest of the season. I just know that I will try to be on the right side (the bookie side) and that my plays are real. Either 1x or 2x for max plays.

I will not bet teasers, parlays, hedge every single bet, bet 1st halves, 2nd halves and all the stuff that will hurt me in the long run.

I am the first one to call you out on this thread, but you have been called out before on the football for lying about your record and then you claimed to be drunk. So yeah I think you are the one making stuff up.
Yes lying, I wrote one wrong play in 300 picks, I should be caned.

The people who have the biggest problem with me are those who never post a pick or opinion, like you, who have more time than money.....or those that post their plays 3 hours late
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Yes lying, I wrote one wrong play in 300 picks, I should be caned.

The people who have the biggest problem with me are those who never post a pick or opinion, like you, who have more time than money.....or those that post their plays 3 hours late
Ok well we shall see, I am going to post my plays win or lose and before tip.
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So I just want to get this straight, you bet 13 bets last night on 3 games?

13 bets and went 6-6-1. 3 games.

I can't wait to see how many bets you make tonight. 9 games tonight so 40 bets maybe? I can't wait to see this sh!t show. Even if you only bet half of the games tonight we are still looking at over 25 bets.
Perhaps, you will just have to be glued to this thing to find out.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:00 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Got on these early when I received the lines:
Tor ML
SA 1st half ~ either way, thank you to Gio
SA game
Denv
Den over
Clips
Clip over
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Dallas
Dal ML
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:08 PM   #143 (permalink)
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So.... this is a thread about NBA betting??? Thanks guys, nice job.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:32 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Taking
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Utah
No
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Added tor ov game
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:21 PM   #146 (permalink)
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Thoughts on a big san Antonio no play?
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sorry I should post lines,
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Utah -8.5
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Laid 3 to 1 on the spurs. 3k to win 1k ml. 500 on half play.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:23 PM   #149 (permalink)
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Tor
Tor ov
Den
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Just got a warning email from moderator stating betting/gambling is NOT allowed on these boards so i am done posting on this topic... I find it ironic that I took this topic from the football board and they are able to discuss the same thing we are...

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