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Old 11-06-2012, 05:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I personally never want to see a BGS 9.5 with any subs below a 9. If its even possible. Having any sub less than "mint" in my opinion throws the cards right off the Gem Mint grade.
+1, i feel that any card that is graded gem mint should not have a sub less then 9.5 or that any card graded pristine should have a sub less then 10. how is any card "pristine" if all aspects of the card is not pristine?
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:23 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It's a speculation without a copy of BGS's algorithm.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:45 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Based on those four examples,



It seems that this is true:

Rank four numbers from subgrades in a decreasing order:

When the 3rd number is equal to 4th number, the overall=4th number;
When the 3rd number is equal to "4th number+0.5", the overall="4th number+0.5";
When the 3rd number is equal to "4th number+1.0" and 4th is the centering/corner, the overall="4th number+0.5";
When the 3rd number is equal to "4th number+1.0" and 4th is the edge/surface, the overall="4th number+1.0";
When the 3rd number is equal to "4th number+1.5" or more, the overall="4th number+1.0".


BGS are unlikely to have screwed up two different examples (2nd and 4th) graded so far apart in time.

You're welcome to supply examples to disprove above proposal.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
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An overall grade can be 9.5 with subgrades of 10 10 10 8.5 ONLY when the 8.5 is surface. Surface is weighted less than the other three.
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:10 PM   #30 (permalink)
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An overall grade can be 9.5 with subgrades of 10 10 10 8.5 ONLY when the 8.5 is surface. Surface is weighted less than the other three.
Where did you get this information from? Where does it say surface is weighted less than the othe 3 subs?
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:31 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You are preaching to the choir my friend...

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Old 11-06-2012, 08:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You are preaching to the choir my friend...

Ugh. I know Beckett can't go more than 0.5 over the lowest grade, but jeez, that's tough.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Where did you get this information from? Where does it say surface is weighted less than the othe 3 subs?
I don't know if it's written anywhere but it is fact.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #34 (permalink)
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No card can have an 8.5 sub grade and get a 9.5, not even if there are 3 10s
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No card can have an 8.5 sub grade and get a 9.5, not even if there are 3 10s
There is a Kobe Topps Chrome ref RC BGS 9.5 with three 10 and a 8.5 surface sub. This is one of the chase cards in leaf.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:58 PM   #36 (permalink)
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No card can have an 8.5 sub grade and get a 9.5, not even if there are 3 10s
You are wrong
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No card can have an 8.5 sub grade and get a 9.5, not even if there are 3 10s
I wasn't claiming that I should have received a 9.5. Just equally bummed about my grade that got knocked down for one of the least important facets on a borderless card...
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I stand corrected :-)

8.5 centering because of the Allen Iverson name on the front is not centered well, sucks
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