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jeebus_86 11-09-2012 07:37 PM

So which Michael Jordan Triumvirate Insert card do I have?
 
Hey guys, it's been awhile since I posted anything here, been dealing with some personal stuff. But, I recently had a chance to acquire this Michael Jordan Triumvirate insert card for $100

[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/170935178240?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649]Michael Jordan Insert Bonus Card BV $175 | eBay[/url]

Now, it was advertised as the regular Michael Jordan Triumvirate insert, and for $100, I thought that was a pretty good price for the base version.

But, when I got in hand, I noticed that is had the refractor effect, which lead me to assume that it may be the Luminescent version, which has an 1:192 odds

[IMG]http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/jeebus_86/Card%20Collection/High-End%20PC/DSC06939.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/jeebus_86/Card%20Collection/High-End%20PC/DSC06940.jpg[/IMG]


But, then I noticed that the top purple portion of the card has a clear acetate finish to it. So could this be the Illuminator version that has a 1:384 odds

Kinda wishful thinking, but this is how Beckett describes these cards:

Randomly inserted in series one retail packs only at one in 384, these cards feature three NBA teammates that can be fused together. These laser cut cards use Illuminator technology to parallel the regular Triumvirate insert set. The cards feature a fully transparent card front compared to the "solid" front base version. Card backs are numbered with a "T" prefix. To ascertain values on individual cards, please refer to the multiplier in the header below, coupled with the value of the base card.

[IMG]http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/jeebus_86/Card%20Collection/High-End%20PC/DSC06941.jpg[/IMG]


So which one is it? It's really tough to tell with the Triumvirate cards

Here's a scan of the cards:

[IMG]http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/jeebus_86/Card%20Collection/High-End%20PC/scan0016.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/jeebus_86/Card%20Collection/High-End%20PC/scan0018.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks for looking! :wink:

blastman 11-09-2012 08:10 PM

Good question.

natbornkiller 11-09-2012 08:13 PM

i think the toughest version has an atomic refractor look

pingbling23 11-09-2012 08:27 PM

def not the base, i think its the luminescent version. very nice pick up.

phdbeckett 11-09-2012 08:44 PM

Congratulations, you have the Illuminator. Well done. The entire card is not transparent like Beckett suggests, but portions of the card that do not have foil allow the acetate to show light through the card. You can clearly see this in your 3rd picture. Nice!

thepinoymamba 11-09-2012 09:03 PM

Clearly You have a very special Michael Jordan Card there!
Congratulations on your pick up!

jeebus_86 11-09-2012 10:19 PM

Thanks a lot for the comments guys, the card does look really AMAZING in person! :D This mailday has really been one huge surprise, here I thought I bought the base version, and it turns out to be the rarest card i the set. I couldn't be more happy!

[QUOTE=phdbeckett;3615648]Congratulations, you have the Illuminator. Well done. The entire card is not transparent like Beckett suggests, but portions of the card that do not have foil allow the acetate to show light through the card. You can clearly see this in your 3rd picture. Nice![/QUOTE]

Yeah, after looking through so many photos of other Michael Jordan Triumvirate cards, I'm starting to believe that this is the Illuminator version, the best example I've seen of the Luminescent version, is this one:

[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jordan-1997-98-Stadium-Club-Triumvirate-LUMINESCENT-T9B-REFRACTOR-/140860349817?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item20cbee5d79&nma=true&si=PmAdONUGXFLaxTmdMp0sXfvCFNM%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557]Michael Jordan 1997 98 Stadium Club Triumvirate Luminescent T9B Refractor | eBay[/url]

And there are some distinct differences between this card and the one I have. One, the card in that auction doesn't have the clear purple transparent finish like mine does. And there's a huge difference in the back of the card, I mean, the one in the auction looks kinda flat, while mine has a more embossing effect! Very excited right now, that I was able to land this really rare card! :D

phdbeckett 11-10-2012 01:14 AM

Trust me, it is the Illuminator. I have had many arguments with other collectors about this set, especially the series I versions. I know just by a quick look that you have the illuminator, and I have owned and sold hundreds of triumvirates in the past few years.

itsinusall 11-10-2012 08:51 AM

[QUOTE=phdbeckett;3617180]Trust me, it is the Illuminator. I have had many arguments with other collectors about this set, especially the series I versions. I know just by a quick look that you have the illuminator, and I have owned and sold hundreds of triumvirates in the past few years.[/QUOTE]

What this guy said

pingbling23 11-10-2012 05:35 PM

so are you going to send it back since the card was not as described lol.

ripandlist 11-10-2012 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=phdbeckett;3617180]Trust me, it is the Illuminator. I have had many arguments with other collectors about this set, especially the series I versions. I know just by a quick look that you have the illuminator, and I have owned and sold hundreds of triumvirates in the past few years.[/QUOTE]

What this guy said.

jeebus_86 11-11-2012 01:53 AM

[QUOTE=phdbeckett;3617180]Trust me, it is the Illuminator. I have had many arguments with other collectors about this set, especially the series I versions. I know just by a quick look that you have the illuminator, and I have owned and sold hundreds of triumvirates in the past few years.[/QUOTE]

Thanks again man for your help, I really appreciate it! :)!

jeebus_86 11-11-2012 01:55 AM

[QUOTE=pingbling23;3619841]so are you going to send it back since the card was not as described lol.[/QUOTE]

lol, funny thing is, I still kinda want to get the base version of the card.

UltimateDeron 11-11-2012 03:03 AM

[QUOTE=jeebus_86;3622654]lol, funny thing is, I still kinda want to get the base version of the card.[/QUOTE]

I had the base version and it was really dull looking. Yours on the other hand looks awesome. Congrats on the steal!

penny1fan 11-11-2012 03:49 AM

Illuminator is acetate with the refractor finish front and back,looks like the card you have is an Illuminator for sure!

crazymj 11-11-2012 09:13 AM

So what is it worth?


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