Players that make others around him worse

tristan20 · 11-20-2012, 01:47 AM

Andre Iguodala, team killer
Devin Harris

Imac7065 · 11-20-2012, 01:49 AM

Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas always seemed to have this effect. I guess to a lesser extent Carmelo Anthony and Allen Iverson too

Jin · 11-20-2012, 01:55 AM

On the Bulls currently is Belinelli and Nate Robinson. Both defensive liabilities, and if they're shot is falling they break your team. Pretty bad court vision and don't create for their teammates

nateadams2 · 11-20-2012, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas always seemed to have this effect. I guess to a lesser extent Carmelo Anthony and Allen Iverson too

hey!!!!!!!!!! he's getting better this year....

Imac7065 · 11-20-2012, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nateadams2

hey!!!!!!!!!! he's getting better this year....

I would have put Stoudemire on that list too.. but he was good with Nash. Can you say Carmelo was good with.. anyone? Ironically.. even Iverson? lol

hazenuts · 11-20-2012, 02:06 AM

John Wall, Starbury, JR Smith

Fraser9698 · 11-20-2012, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hazenuts

John Wall, Starbury, JR Smith

Wiz look great without wall. Srupid comment...

drob50 · 11-20-2012, 05:55 AM

Russell Westbrook!

Nick Diaz · 11-20-2012, 06:19 AM

Jeremy Lin!

avjp87 · 11-20-2012, 06:42 AM

I'd say Iverson too, but not the years with the Sixers.

skycat · 11-20-2012, 07:41 AM

Dwight Howard.

xavieronly1 · 11-20-2012, 08:26 AM

MJ, cuz he scores all the points and makes everyone on the court (including his teammates) looks bad.

asujbl · 11-20-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraser9698

Wiz look great without wall. Srupid comment...

When did they ever look good with Wall?

I think that's the point. Wall has shown nothing in his career so far that he can make his teammates that much better.

MrMasterpiece · 11-20-2012, 09:19 AM

Glen "Big Baby" Davis

His shot selection sucks! He cant jump! Hes the "Black Hole" The ball goes in and doesnt come back out(Never Passes). He gets like five shots blocked a game. He tries to play D. But is just too fat and slow to stay in front of people. The one thing he does consistently
is sit his fat but around the basket and get rebounds just because people cant push him out the way.

dasiegel · 11-20-2012, 10:00 AM

way too early to be that hard on Wall and he must do something right becasue they regressed even further without him. he's like a poor man's derrick rose if you ask me. note- remember what people said about ball hog no jump shot rose in 08-09. look at the whole knicks roster, melo and jr smith especially but so far they really have improved this year... ok melo has improved, jr smith is just hitting his shots, lol. iverson notorious, marbury notorious, i think certain guys weren't necessarily hogs but just didn't make their team better i think of mcgrady, stackhouse, v. carter etc.

Zacy87 · 11-20-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraser9698

Wiz look great without wall. Srupid comment...

You're proving his point. Srupid comment...

GA0 · 11-20-2012, 10:27 AM

Hard to say Wall, when he had teammates like nick young, blatche, and McGee. NO point guard can make those idiots better.

Jeremy Lin fits the bill though.

pac213up · 11-20-2012, 10:34 AM

Generally any low efficiency shooter that holds the ball and does not defend well will fit this bill.

tennelson55 · 11-20-2012, 10:39 AM

Vince Carter...

MavsRChamps · 11-20-2012, 11:10 AM

Current Lamar Odom ...

thepinoymamba · 11-20-2012, 11:15 AM

I was surprised someone said Jordan!!!
What planet are you from....
Wow... unbelievable... never mind!

asujbl · 11-20-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GA0

Hard to say Wall, when he had teammates like nick young, blatche, and McGee. NO point guard can make those idiots better.

Jeremy Lin fits the bill though.

and yet Kyrie Irving makes Alozno Gee, Tristan Thompson, and Daniel Gibson better...

GA0 · 11-20-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

and yet Kyrie Irving makes Alozno Gee, Tristan Thompson, and Daniel Gibson better...

You would understand if you watched the games. Young, McGee, and Blatche are talented, but have absolutely no basketball iq. I was actually mad when the Wizards had Gee for a few 10 day contracts and decided not to retain him. Thompson, Gibson, and Gee aren't exactly bums.

hazenuts · 11-20-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GA0

You would understand if you watched the games. Young, McGee, and Blatche are talented, but have absolutely no basketball iq. I was actually mad when the Wizards had Gee for a few 10 day contracts and decided not to retain him. Thompson, Gibson, and Gee aren't exactly bums.

Guess it has always been everyone else faults except for Wall himself.

Every piece of talents around him had always been the absolute worst in NBA, no other possible explanation, except for just having the worst kind of bad luck I guess.

forgiven1 · 11-20-2012, 01:04 PM

tristan20, I'm surprised you didnt say Kobe!....

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dasiegel Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,515 dasiegel2007	way too early to be that hard on Wall and he must do something right becasue they regressed even further without him. he's like a poor man's derrick rose if you ask me. note- remember what people said about ball hog no jump shot rose in 08-09. look at the whole knicks roster, melo and jr smith especially but so far they really have improved this year... ok melo has improved, jr smith is just hitting his shots, lol. iverson notorious, marbury notorious, i think certain guys weren't necessarily hogs but just didn't make their team better i think of mcgrady, stackhouse, v. carter etc.

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