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Old 12-07-2012, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default ??? Kobe prizm gold scam ???!!!!!!

This auction is one-day auction and is about to end. I just realized something! Looks like highest bidder also did!

2012 13 Kobe Bryant Panini Prizm Gold Refractor USA 10 | eBay

Who will use one-day auction for a hot card like this? Not helping exposure at all...Not like the hype is dying down in two days.

But the auction picture is exactly like the one here. Only making it smaller, but all the other charteristics of a pic is exactly the same. Very imaginative!

2012 Panini Prizm Prizmatic Gold Refractor Kobe Bryant USA 10 10 Jersey Number | eBay

Oh, so maybe he tried to scam someone before completed auction shows up. Ah-Huh, his feedback is particular inviting!

STAY CLEAR from this scam...
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just noticed, 2 different sellers...
Nevermind
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I asked the seller for a scan of the back of the card.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not sure, but in the first listing he says it's number 3/10 and the second is 10/10.
He could be "scamming" but I wouldn't be too certain yet
If he had the card, why would he use the same exact picture. This is unmistakenable!!
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If he had the card, why would he use the same exact picture. This is unmistakenable!!
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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BAD SELLER STAY AWAY FROM RIPPED ME OFF $404.00 NEVER SHIPPED MY ITEM Member id gbpackersrcsnmore ( Feedback Score Of 393) Nov-30-12 20:07
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CARD WAS SHIPPED - CARD LOST - HAS TRACKING NUMBER ON MYEBAY - HE GOT MONEY BACK

2012 ANDREW LUCK TOPPS CHROME SP VARITION AUTO RK RARE (#121018179277)

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I am the seller of the Kobe #10/10 jersey number. It is worth a heck of a lot more than $800 but the card was pulled during a pack-wars competition and I sold it for the seller on consignment. The BIN was hit very soon after listing. If we had it all over, would have done a no-reserve auction. Buy got a steal.
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I am the seller of the Kobe #10/10 jersey number. It is worth a heck of a lot more than $800 but the card was pulled during a pack-wars competition and I sold it for the seller on consignment. The BIN was hit very soon after listing. If we had it all over, would have done a no-reserve auction. Buy got a steal.
Yeah notice the picture is just like the kobe too. Stolen, they always go small when you copy someone else's picture

99.9% whoever buys that kobe is getting robbed
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sry meant to copy pepsi porch comment about the luck auto
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Yeah notice the picture is just like the kobe too. Stolen, they always go small when you copy someone else's picture

99.9% whoever buys that kobe is getting robbed
Exactly, and we did not even take the best picture to begin with and they STILL copy it! They buyer has the card now and is satisfied, but geez, snap your own picture.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm really starting to wonder how many of these sales over $1000 are legit.

Shaq, Iverson, etc all going $100-300 and Kobe/LBJ going 1k + ?!


Lillard just sold $1,999.99 BIN and Kobe $1,400.00 BIN ?

I just dont know how many 'collectors' would be willing to pay these prices to keep the cards in their PCs.

Looks like the collectors of the legit sales (Shaq/AI/etc) have no problem only bidding a fair value for the card, not an insane $1k + amount!
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Lillard is a different animal since he will probably be roy and has no autos except for leaf garbage]

2k seems nuts but 1k seems in line with rubio and griffin gold ref rookies

Plus lilard has 10 golds

shaq has 40
kobe has 50
Iverson 20
Lebron 50

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Lillard is a different animal since he will probably be roy and has no autos except for leaf garbage]

2k seems nuts but 1k seems in line with rubio and griffin gold ref rookies

Plus lilard has 10 golds

shaq has 40
kobe has 50
Iverson 20
Lebron 50

I know what you mean.

Buttt, Lillard will have cards in future sets ... considered rookie cards.

Plus, he's no LBJ or Dwight ... it's not likely he's going to take over the game ... ever.

For $2k, there are hundreds of cards I'd prefer over the Lillard.

I know, to each their own, but $2k on a non auto'd, non game used, parallel rookie card from a low-mid tier set? That's nuts to me.

But, who knows if these deals are all getting paid for.

I'd like to see some collectors on here posting their Kobe/Lillard gold prizm buys for $1400+ that they are keeping in their PCs...
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I know what you mean.

Buttt, Lillard will have cards in future sets ... considered rookie cards.

Plus, he's no LBJ or Dwight ... it's not likely he's going to take over the game ... ever.

For $2k, there are hundreds of cards I'd prefer over the Lillard.

I know, to each their own, but $2k on a non auto'd, non game used, parallel rookie card from a low-mid tier set? That's nuts to me.

But, who knows if these deals are all getting paid for.

I'd like to see some collectors on here posting their Kobe/Lillard gold prizm buys for $1400+ that they are keeping in their PCs...
There is a single person BIN ing all these cards, top cards from this product. And he is not a collector per se. Collectors who will pay at any cost will get those BIN'ed cards next. It's a self-generating hype and market manipulation. I have to admit, only when you have a good product, manipulation can work and work well.
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I think the gold Prizms are much better than anything I've seen lately. I've always loved the Finest and Chrome products when I was younger; this is the closest thing to it for basketball I've seen since I've gotten back into the hobby.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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this guy a member here I believe he won gold usa kobe for 1176

fyi he won the 8/10 MVP

Guy seems to have a sick collection of stuff he bought wow
Should warn him

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Old 12-07-2012, 05:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
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He is not the person I meant, as this buyer you referred to is a step slower and pays everything at top dollar (compared to yesterday's price). The person I meant basically secured several of the really top cards from this product dirty cheap and will cash off big time!
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There is a single person BIN ing all these cards, top cards from this product. And he is not a collector per se. Collectors who will pay at any cost will get those BIN'ed cards next. It's a self-generating hype and market manipulation. I have to admit, only when you have a good product, manipulation can work and work well.
This is very rare in this hobby . I am sorry for posting buyers name I will delete and contact

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so someone is buying up everything to hoard and sell stupid high later? fantastic.
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This is very rare that this happens and collectors should choose not to buy it then .

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Well, this happens when chase cards are printed rarely and initial wave of BINs are moderate. It's an easy money-making opportunity actually. A 'smart' person who senses the potential before everyone and has the time to refresh listing page and BINs before everyone else sees it will 'deserve' the money in the bank.

Some big time collectors will collect at any cost and have the $$$$ to get the cards instead of 'missing out' this product.

I don't blame any of above two types of persons. This is what the hobby currently is.

You have a happy holiday as well!
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The person who had the gold kobe base /10 on bids took it off, and I messages him saying what he was looking for and he said he had an offer of 1800 and was debating it ... Crazy
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If he had the card, why would he use the same exact picture. This is unmistakenable!!
That's why after a minute or so I edited my OP and said Never mind realized it was two different sellers.

I thought it was the same seller selling two of the same card and didn't bother to take two separate scans so they just used one scan for both cards.
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There is a single person BIN ing all these cards, top cards from this product. And he is not a collector per se. Collectors who will pay at any cost will get those BIN'ed cards next. It's a self-generating hype and market manipulation. I have to admit, only when you have a good product, manipulation can work and work well.
Funny you say this to paul. Paul is the flipper on ebay. I just find it comical that he is thwarting about prices of golds yet he bought the Rose gold for $400 and tried to flip it for $2000.

Paul, while I have no issues with you, you really do cross the line on the double standard to justify what you do.

You first complain about the product saying there is no money to be made. Then you go and flip prizm cards trying to make bank.

You then talk about how these crazy prices must be fake yet you are one of the guys listing a gold rose for $2000.

I dont get it.
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This is funny...
Would there be PayPal protection for this?
Plus this are the hottest right now and will continue on until all the gold #$ are collected by true collectors. The prices is unbelievable on $100 box. What a ratio of earnings returns once you hit gold.
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But it depends on the gold you hit. I've done like 3 cases worth, hit 8 golds and the best one was Shaq, so you still need to get lucky

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This is funny...
Would there be PayPal protection for this?
Plus this are the hottest right now and will continue on until all the gold #$ are collected by true collectors. The prices is unbelievable on $100 box. What a ratio of earnings returns once you hit gold.
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