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Old 12-07-2012, 11:49 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Providing counter arguments is taking this personally? k, this is a forum after all, where usually people reply to others.
I know, but it's not like it's a surprise or an outrageous comment that Rondo isn't a good shooter.

I thought it was basically an accepted and understood fact.
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yet he isn't a terrible shooter, either, and stats prove that.

inb4 omglolol1111 stats don't matter
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:53 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Rondo, not so great 3 point shooter. We all know.

Everywhere else but 3's Rondo is shooting 54%, which isn't terrible.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:53 PM   #79 (permalink)
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LOL, Wonder who that sounds like???

Yes a triple double is a huge flaw in Rondo's game. I am pretty sure most players wouldn't make a mid range shot when they were slipping and falling like he was.

Rondo shots 52% from mid range, better then LeBron, Wade, Paul, Williams, Westbrook, Kobe, etc.

Yes how the players are covered in Midrange might differ but still shooting better at mid range then them is still impressive, to say.
don't know if you can read but i never said that. the flaw was his two bricks that could have won the game.

and is this really a serious argument? its a joke right?

rational thinking does not seem to be working after the loss tonight. i guess thats understandable

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I know, but it's not like it's a surprise or an outrageous comment that Rondo isn't a good shooter.

I thought it was basically an accepted and understood fact.
The problem is that people that say that cannot quantify what a good shooter is or is not. I would NEVER suggest it is a strength of his game or that he is a GREAT shooter or scorer for that matter. He is however MUCH improved this year. If teams leave him open that is on them. It is not his fault he is not forcing shots up like other players. He has a TS% of 54% and is hitting above 50% from mid range....that is good.
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So, Rondo's mid-range jumper is his biggest knock, right?

So why isn't it constantly brought up as knocks against, russell, cp3, deron?

CP3 is the only one even close and or better then rondo on jumpers (not by much, either)

Now granted, they shoot more of them, but, obviously if they miss 65% of them, should they be smart enough to not shoot them, either?
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yet he isn't a terrible shooter, either, and stats prove that.

inb4 omglolol1111 stats don't matter
Ok, so if he's a good shooter, why is he a career 62% free throw shooter?
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and this proves that people do not understand how to analyze stats....

i know i sound like a broken record but come on people! rondo is a good shooter now? yikes...
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Wait are people really trying to argue that's rondos shooting ability isn poor or a weakness? Honestly?
Wy do ignore any of my questions regarding James and his performance with the game on the line yesterday? Seems like you're dodging questions. Come on buddy don't do that

James did the same exact thing.....does that mean he also is hurting his team?
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They Lost! Great job tonight by Turner, Jrue and Thadd!
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Wy do ignore any of my questions regarding James and his performance with the game on the line yesterday? Seems like you're dodging questions. Come on buddy don't do that

James did the same exact thing.....does that mean he also is hurting his team?
lebron missed two shots to win the game yesterday?

really?
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don't know if you can read but i never said that. the flaw was his two bricks that could have won the game.

and is this really a serious argument? its a joke right?

rational thinking does not seem to be working after the loss tonight. i guess thats understandable
Rondo's first shot was pretty close, hit back iron. Wasn't a "brick".

The last one was an air ball, and if you were paying attention to the slightest you would have seen him slipping and falling which effected his shot.

Were you even watching the game?
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Ok, so if he's a good shooter, why is he a career 62% free throw shooter?
oh yeah no question he is a terrible FT shooter
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Ok, so if he's a good shooter, why is he a career 62% free throw shooter?
He is shooting the same free throw percentage as Lebron James this year. So is Lebron a bad shooter?
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Rondo's first shot was pretty close, hit back iron. Wasn't a "brick".

The last one was an air ball, and if you were paying attention to the slightest you would have seen him slipping and falling which effected his shot.

Were you even watching the game?
a miss is a miss buddy.

So just so I understand this correctly. People now think Rondo is a good shooter?
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oh yeah no question he is a terrible FT shooter
What I'm saying is that if you go by FG%, Shaq was one of the best shooters of all time
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What I'm saying is that if you go by FG%, Shaq was one of the best shooters of all time
BINGO somebody can understand how to analyze stats instead of reading a number.

it's like they don't watch the games or something.
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What I'm saying is that if you go by FG%, Shaq was one of the best shooters of all time
In the paint...yes he was. Outside of the paint....not so much. Most people understand the difference.
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What I'm saying is that if you go by FG%, Shaq was one of the best shooters of all time
What was shaq's FG % from mid range?


I am not talking about Rondo's total FG%, he is shooting 47-52% FROM MID RANGE

Nor have I said he is the best shooter in the league, but he is by far not as bad as people here claim, either.
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In the paint...yes he was. Outside of the paint....not so much. Most people understand the difference.
I don't know exact stats, but I'm guessing most of Rondo's points come in the paint
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Now you're just being a fool. He missed twice in the last 25 seconds to either tie the game or go ahead and he failed missing shots in the clutch isn't just something Rondo did tonight. James did it the night before but you seem to be in denial. Bias anyone?

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lebron missed two shots to win the game yesterday?

really?
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BINGO somebody can understand how to analyze stats instead of reading a number.

it's like they don't watch the games or something.
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What I'm saying is that if you go by FG%, Shaq was one of the best shooters of all time
LOL, #FAILZzS The numbers we were providing to you were Rondo's midrange shooting % (which is what you seem to define as a good shooter). Shaq's FG% is high from mostly paint scoring, which we weren't talking about. You are calling him a poor shooter since he doesn't drain clutch falling down mid range shots?


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a miss is a miss buddy.

So just so I understand this correctly. People now think Rondo is a good shooter?
Really!?!?! I never knew that, thanks for explaining that for me!
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Now you're just being a fool. He missed twice in the last 25 seconds to either tie the game or go ahead and he failed missing shots in the clutch isn't just something Rondo did tonight. James did it the night before but you seem to be in denial. Bias anyone?
the heat lost by 20 to the knicks last night. i didn't know he was shooting 21 pt shots?


what game are you talking about?

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35 FG's out of the paint, 49 in the paint

sure more, but not a huge difference
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35 FG's out of the paint, 49 in the paint

sure more, but not a huge difference
Ok, so what are the numbers for Wade in and out of the paint?
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