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Old 12-18-2012, 04:35 PM   #51 (permalink)
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and you waited, a day and a half, sorry I dont believe you
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:37 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Wow dude, i can't imagine losing these...
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:38 PM   #53 (permalink)
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pretty sure saketm has most of those cards. definitely the chronos, that guy got many cards from haiku at crazy prices
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:38 PM   #54 (permalink)
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and you waited, a day and a half, sorry I dont believe you
You're correct. I made all of this up and didn't get scammed for my cards.

Dude I just got off the phone with someone who bought one of them from Haiku and has it on ebay now, and have located half of them. But I'm making this all up.

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Old 12-18-2012, 04:39 PM   #55 (permalink)
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pretty sure saketm has most of those cards. definitely the chronos, that guy got many cards from haiku at crazy prices
Nope, I'm clearly making all of this up.

On a serious note thanks...already been speaking to him.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:50 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I understand the situation. My issue isnt with you. Issue is with people sending idle threats of prison time for not sending cards back that they paid for and didnt know about them being stolen.

Again, maybe you need to file with the Police? Have you done this yet? This way you can document everything given back and if anything is sent, that you know what to do with it.

And since we are trying to get things back. You know any way of me getting back $7k that I was scammed out of a couple of years ago?

You make the mistake and the rest of us have to pay for it?
even if you didnt know, the property will be confiscated since it is stolen. This is the precedent set in every case of stolen goods. Then, it is the buyer's responsibility to pursue recourse with the person they purchased the goods from.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:52 PM   #57 (permalink)
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sounds like you need to reach out and touch someone !
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:00 PM   #58 (permalink)
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The lack of knowledge of members of this site is insane. It's like no one see the 40 plus threads an over 200 pages of talk on this scam.

I was shocked it actually wasn't being talked about on the bball forum but honestly go look this stuff over. It's like the whole rest of blowout forum is in craziness an no one here has any clue of it. Haha

To think Fraser is just making this up or sketchy for waiting one day to post here is nonsense.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:02 PM   #59 (permalink)
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People really need to stop going after the victims....there was 1 person fully complicit in this from the start.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:20 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:42 PM   #61 (permalink)
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i have never heard of this as well. i only go in the basketball forums/bst/breaks

sucks what happened though. i hope you get them all back
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:55 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Thanks for the support/help guys. It does amaze me that the people who got effed over the most are being accused of being involved in it.

If anything else this will be a lesson learned....not going down without a fight though.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:57 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Thanks for the support/help guys. It does amaze me that the people who got effed over the most are being accused of being involved in it.

If anything else this will be a lesson learned....not going down without a fight though.
Hey bro his day will come soon enough! Remember what go's around comes around!! Karma is a bitch!!
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:02 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Here is my two cents on the whole matter...and I also know, no one really cares what I think since no one actually knows me outside of a few.

Haiku truly duped everyone. Even if people were suspicious, how dare anyone speak out against him? He had more feedback then most. If someone did call him out, he would make up an excuse and the mob would take his side. Everyone was his puppet.

Again, for what its worth, I have been very fortunate to never have been ripped off outside of a postal worker stealing over 1k worth of cards (that I got my insurance money for). I always use common sense. The only dealings Ive ever had with Haiku was he bought a Matt Ryan Auto from me. I pm'ed him a bunch seemed like a good guy. Based on feedback and dealing with him, I always assumed (like many others), he was one of the good guys here.

Also I know no one on here right now will take someones word at face value. There are a total of 3 people I would put my own reputation on the line for by speaking up for them and Fraser is one of them. Fraser and I have actually kind of became real life friends. I know...it weird. We have both had the opportunity to rip each other off for literally thousands of dollars and havent. I cant see Will being a part of any part of this. From what he told me, hes just another victim.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:35 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Should at least contact ebay to hault the sell of the WALL PRA since its "stolen" property. And with prove to the police, there is a big chance you can at least recover that card.

........and to think that that Biatch Haiku was pimping that Wall RPA all over the buy-sell section the last couple weeks too..........what a low-life!
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:15 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Wow, this is all so messed up! Fraser I wish you and all the others the best in getting your cards and or money back from all this nonsense. Good luck to you.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:18 PM   #67 (permalink)
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You posted this comment in the Holiday lot part 2 thread

Great to see guys buying these!


Why was it great? Did you have some kind of investment in these lots? Was he using your cards to fill these lots and promised some type of return....Doesn't make sense why you were so happy to see these lots being sold.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:37 PM   #68 (permalink)
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People really need to stop going after the victims....there was 1 person fully complicit in this from the start.

Yes, but it also highly likely that there were several other "ghost" accounts used to further solidify the in depth and well thought out scam.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:37 PM   #69 (permalink)
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There is definitely something going on.....cause in another Haiku quick sales thread, the OP responded first on a Durant Autopatch for $11.xx before Haiku even posted the cards for sale and pics. Many members looking at the thread at the time witnessed it. (and the OP still haven't been able to explain how he knew to respond first to the Durant card before Haiku posted it with a pic).

Although deep down, I really believe the OP is not a partner in all of this, but rather a victim....he definitely had something going on with Haiku on these quick sales/ and mystery lots. Haiku probably promised him a cut on the mystery lots and first-in on the quick sales so the OP is getting something out of this, but he did not know that he was being used like a(fill in the blank here)......just my 2 cents.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:22 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Dude here is a word of serious advice if you want to see your cards or have the pleasure of seeing this dude in person .

Hire a Private Investigator it sounds like a few of you where scammed so you can all chip in , the PI will bring you to his house , the rest is up to you guy's.

I personally have done this with Builders that think they can run with not paying invoices $100k and over and every time they find them under there supposed rocks.

Once they even found a typical scamming scum when he ran to different address under his Kids names to avoid detection but garbage alway's leaves a trail and family is alway's the weak link when trying to hide .

No one can hide they can be found .

Forget about police and the rest because they don't handle these items PI's are specialist's at tracking ( if they are good depends on who you appoint ).

Hope that helps !
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:27 PM   #71 (permalink)
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There is definitely something going on.....cause in another Haiku quick sales thread, the OP responded first on a Durant Autopatch for $11.xx before Haiku even posted the cards for sale and pics. Many members looking at the thread at the time witnessed it. (and the OP still haven't been able to explain how he knew to respond first to the Durant card before Haiku posted it with a pic).

Although deep down, I really believe the OP is not a partner in all of this, but rather a victim....he definitely had something going on with Haiku on these quick sales/ and mystery lots. Haiku probably promised him a cut on the mystery lots and first-in on the quick sales so the OP is getting something out of this, but he did not know that he was being used like a(fill in the blank here)......just my 2 cents.
Would be interesting to see what happened there
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unless it was stated already, im still waiting to hear what haiku could have offered you in a trade that you'd give up like 10k worth of stuff in a trade , and to send first to a complete stranger (even though he had a higher feedback)
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:39 PM   #73 (permalink)
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unless it was stated already, im still waiting to hear what haiku could have offered you in a trade that you'd give up like 10k worth of stuff in a trade , and to send first to a complete stranger (even though he had a higher feedback)
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:54 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Wow sorry to hear man, devastating stuff bro.

I will try my best to keep an eye out for you.

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Old 12-18-2012, 08:55 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Holy crap - to the OP, I'm really sorry to hear all this happened and I hope you get at least some of this stuff back.

To the rest of you - I've literally tried to piece together what Haiku did for the past 20 minutes or so but can't quite figure it out from all the massive threads. He conned several people in high end trades, but what is this I hear about these outrageous giveaways? How did this whole operation go down?

Once again, OP I feel badly for you, you seem like a good guy from what I've seen. Would just be helpful to hear a short synopsis of what happened so others can avoid falling into a similar trap in the future.
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