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Old 12-19-2012, 08:08 AM   #101 (permalink)
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If I was trading that much high end stuff by mail with my own mother, i would use a mod as an escrow!

I am genuinely curious what he could have offered you to trade away that much inventory...

Good luck getting your stuff back bro
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:58 AM   #102 (permalink)
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for those interested here is the main thread:

Haiku Suspended- Rumors of massive scam emerge..

Happy Reading! lol

I had been following it for a while but it is starting to become a witch hunt / chasing down of bogus leads. But who knows maybe one of those guys will find something...

One interesting this was that the name 'Jay Morgan' seemed to have been involved as a scam months before yet Haiku used that name for the past couple months and no one seemed to notice...

Please Read, Very important.

anyway i will probably not follow as much although it is some good bathroom reading if bored. haha
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:00 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Someone needs to get laid .

Cards are not my life, they are monetary. Yes it sucks but at the end of the day my family and friends are safe and that's what really matters. It is what it is.

Also, thanks to everyone who has messaged the Ebay seller about the Wall. I have spoken to him over the phone and he has taken the auction down. He got scammed from Haiku as well(broncosmanning18 or something like that).

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Old 12-19-2012, 09:47 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Fraser, look at this thread.
Any chance I get back any of the cards that Haiku stole from me?

Bronco is claiming he got ripped off by Haiku for 11k cash and 5k in cards.

You claim you got ripped off by Haiku by sending him 10k in cards including that John Wall RPA?

So how does Bronco end up with a card on ebay that you specifically sent to Haiku?
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:49 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Fraser, look at this thread.
Any chance I get back any of the cards that Haiku stole from me?

Bronco is claiming he got ripped off by Haiku for 11k cash and 5k in cards.

You claim you got ripped off by Haiku by sending him 10k in cards including that John Wall RPA?

So how does Bronco end up with a card on ebay that you specifically sent to Haiku?

Responded there for you.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:42 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Its funny how quickly people forget the "hero" haiku was before this scandal went down. There were entire threads praising this guy for his kindness, how it was such a "stand up guy" now fast forward a week or 2 and people questions fraser for sending him cards?
This could of happened to anyone of the of haiku followers or outsiders who knew him to be a trustworthy board member . Its just unfortunate it happened to fraser in what was such a large trade.
I think its going to be really really difficult to get anything done legally. In the scheme of everything going on I have seen things like this get pushed off to the side just due to all of the things the authorities have going one. Plus it might be hard to substantiate what you actually paid for some of these.
The guy who recommend the PI route might have something, its not traditional and potentially drastic but it might get spark some action
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I called Haiku out a few times (Called him Mr. Chargeback) for his chargebacks done to a few members and I got railed pretty hard!!

No use knocking Fraser while he is down. Fraser hope you dont take my questioning the wrong/negative way. Im just analyzing it all.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:28 AM   #108 (permalink)
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What happens when you call his number?
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:32 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Well, if the owner's card was stolen, then was sold to someone else. In reality, the new owner now has a stolen property (even he has no knowledge of it). By law, the new owner needs to return the stolen property to the rightful owner. The new owner needs to go after the theif for his/her loss.

this file a police report man, then provide all the info here, and if you know who exactly they were given/sold to then you should be able to get them back that way.
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Do you mind giving me some evidence that you bought or own this card so I can finally call paypal and try to resolve this situation?
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:47 PM   #111 (permalink)
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wow, there is no way i would make this deal over the internet. if i did i would probably jump off a cliff if this happened to me.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:27 PM   #112 (permalink)
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wow, there is no way i would make this deal over the internet. if i did i would probably jump off a cliff if this happened to me.
Encouraging suicide? Useful contribution.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:34 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Haha nice....
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:52 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Encouraging suicide? Useful contribution.

True, didnt think of it that way, my bad
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Lebron James 04 05 SP Signature Inkredible Inscriptions Auto SP 25 "King James" | eBay

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So whats going to happen? Try to win it, get the card and then tell ebay/paypal cops whats going on to get money back?
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So whats going to happen? Try to win it, get the card and then tell ebay/paypal cops whats going on to get money back?
I just thought I'd let the OP know. As for your question, I'm not sure.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:28 AM   #120 (permalink)
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Thanks guys but i came to an agreement with the purchaser of those two before auction. He bought them in good faith from haiku and paid gift so couldnt get a refund. Appreciate everyone looking out for me, though.
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Now this guy is telling me I should give him a card back THAT I BOUGHT FROM HAIKU and threatening me he is going to the police. There are lots of people that BOUGHT THESE, got NO REFUND, and were not given them as gifts.

There is no reason that we should get screwed too. This guy wants to hurt other people and is trying to get people to send him cards back, or money for them. He has threatened to go to the police.

NO ONE that bought these from haiku and paid is liable. They were all being sold and this guy knew they were being sold and he did and said nothing. So now he wants people who have made purchases, received no refund, to send cards or money so WE can be out something when we legitimately bought something that NO ONE knew what would happen.

He states in this thread he KNOWS NO ONE KNEW THEY WERE STOLEN yet he has threatened me saying he's going to the police, now he says he's going to give me a few days to cool down and he'll be in contact.

The situation is HORRIBLE for everyone, but why should people that bought stuff suffer? I received ONE CARD that I should've gotten from this guy and was scammed for around 3k, and now I should send him money or a card that i bought IN ADDITION to getting scammed!

Yes, fraser was victimized, but he should've also thought before sending that much in cards with nothing in return, and then watching all these cards be sold OR GIVEN AWAY while he still had nothing.
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after threatening me and i get upset this is what he tells me....

Take a Xanax, bud. Not worth getting so worked up at such a young age.

this guy is threatening me, saying i did something wrong when i was also victimized and he tells me to take a xanax? WOW
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Here is my two cents (and I know I am internet "buddies" with Will)

This is a community. A ton of people got took by him. I bet you bought that card for a real good price too. Why not sell and split to lessen the loss? I would like to think I would do the same if I were in your shoes.

But why should you have to suffer too? Just saying legally you have stolen goods and now you know they are stolen.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:29 PM   #124 (permalink)
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You *really* do need to take a Xanax.

...and yes, if you sell that stolen card(as you have been trying to do on HK) I would consider pursuing legal action, for the principle of it.

Funny that you are the only person I've had an issue with.
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after threatening me and i get upset this is what he tells me....

Take a Xanax, bud. Not worth getting so worked up at such a young age.

this guy is threatening me, saying i did something wrong when i was also victimized and he tells me to take a xanax? WOW
Fraser, do you expect to make a mistake like this and have everyone else pay the price for your mistake?

What did you threaten him with?

Intimidation is against the law as well.

On thate note!!, I was scammed for $14k a few years back. I think some of these cards were mine from back then, therefore they probably belong to me as well!!

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