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Old 02-06-2013, 03:45 PM   #376 (permalink)
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I'd bank on that as well. The return on those guys doesn't seem high enough to move them at this point. Unless you could get a really nice young player in return they won't do it. And unless pp or kg would put the other team over the top, the other team wouldn't do it. That severely limits your options. Thats why the clippers make the most sense if they really want to give bledsoe for one of them, and pp would be the one they want. They will most likely retire celtics.
Anything is possible, GM's make stupid moves all the time. If Ainge is on the winning end of that then he pulls the trigger. Just do not see it happening. Better to just let them ride it out and manage cap space until then. They will compete to the end.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:24 PM   #377 (permalink)
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Anything is possible, GM's make stupid moves all the time. If Ainge is on the winning end of that then he pulls the trigger. Just do not see it happening. Better to just let them ride it out and manage cap space until then. They will compete to the end.
True. Just seems unlikely a gm would give young talent to a player that's almost done. Unless he thinks it's the last piece for a title. Not many teams out there that fit that bill, clippers are really the only team that comes to mind.
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:03 PM   #378 (permalink)
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The reason why KG and PP wont be dealt is because GM's arent trading the future to go for it now anymore, crazy trades like that arent common anymore. Plus the draft sucks this year.

Like if the Jazz wanna trade Favors and a pick, its something the Celtics need to consider.

I doubt they do that though, the Jazz I mean.

I want KG and Pierce to retire as a Celtic and I think they can compete next year too as crazy as that sounds.

There is no such thing as "blowing it up" with teams not realy giving you much for these older veterans
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:17 PM   #379 (permalink)
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The reason why KG and PP wont be dealt is because GM's arent trading the future to go for it now anymore, crazy trades like that arent common anymore. Plus the draft sucks this year.

Like if the Jazz wanna trade Favors and a pick, its something the Celtics need to consider.

I doubt they do that though, the Jazz I mean.

I want KG and Pierce to retire as a Celtic and I think they can compete next year too as crazy as that sounds.

There is no such thing as "blowing it up" with teams not realy giving you much for these older veterans
I agree...why would a team like the jazz trade a young player for one (albeit a hall of famer) on the last couple years of their career? especially when they definitely aren't winning now...
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:43 PM   #380 (permalink)
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I agree...why would a team like the jazz trade a young player for one (albeit a hall of famer) on the last couple years of their career? especially when they definitely aren't winning now...
If the Jazz were like knocking on the door of a title, western finals last year and needed that ONE piece to do it....okay, I can see them dealing Favors and stuff, same with Bledsoe on the Clippers....but none of those teams are.

It doesnt make sense for a 6th seed to do that, or like the Clippers who have SO many questions beyond this year to mortgage the future.

I have seen a title, I have seen 2 finals appearances and 3 Eastern finals, I am okay if the Celtics ride this out and rebuild after everyone retires. I dont wanna see Pierce or KG go for something stupid like cap relief or something other than an elite blue chipper.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:01 PM   #381 (permalink)
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the only place KG would waive to go is an LA team i think. which could be interesting in itself
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:29 PM   #382 (permalink)
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Felger and Mazz were throwing out KG for Howard deal.
Would Celts roll dice on Howard. He is supposed to be a big Doc fan.
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Felger and Mazz were throwing out KG for Howard deal.
Would Celts roll dice on Howard. He is supposed to be a big Doc fan.
if there is a deal with the lakers its going to involve gasol not dwight.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:33 PM   #384 (permalink)
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Felger and Mazz were throwing out KG for Howard deal.
Would Celts roll dice on Howard. He is supposed to be a big Doc fan.
you must listen to quite a bit of sports talk radio lol...

anyways, as much as my first inclination is to laugh about this trade scenario, it actually makes a little bit of sense. KG would be a huge pick up for the lakers, they could use him pretty bad. and if the celtics thought they could resign dwight - i could see that...that would be crazy lol.
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Gasol contract and now bad foot make him untradeable.

Lakers just said they aren't trading Howard. So we all know that is pretty much the kiss of death that they are looking to move him before he bolts anyways at end of the season. Just will be interesting they can get as a rental player is all he will be. A bad back and all.
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if there is a deal with the lakers its going to involve gasol not dwight.
id think so too, but we're talking about a team that gave d'antoni a FOUR year contract...so all bets are off with them lol.
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Seriously, stop listening to Boston sports talk radio. They are some of the dumbest people on the planet. All of them sans Michael Holley are terrible. Quoting them is just worse.

Trading for Howard would be risky since he's not going to resign in Boston. Gasol makes sense since he hates D'antoni and Howard, but its not happening.
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Seriously, stop listening to Boston sports talk radio. They are some of the dumbest people on the planet. All of them sans Michael Holley are terrible. Quoting them is just worse.

Trading for Howard would be risky since he's not going to resign in Boston. Gasol makes sense since he hates D'antoni and Howard, but its not happening.
you don't think Dwight would resign in Boston? that's an interesting scenario to me because it would be worth the risk on Boston's part and if la thinks he won't resign with them, worth it on their part too. and I have to think pp is more important to have retire a Celtic than kg...
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you don't think Dwight would resign in Boston? that's an interesting scenario to me because it would be worth the risk on Boston's part and if la thinks he won't resign with them, worth it on their part too. and I have to think pp is more important to have retire a Celtic than kg...
Nah as much as Rondo/Doc would draw to him, I think its very very very slim.

Atlanta, Dallas, LA. That's it for him.

I mean Rondo and Doc are a pretty good foundation to offer him, but I think LA because it can offer the most $, and its LA, Dallas since they will go insane on the offer and ATL since its home.

Id love the idea of Howard in Boston, but I wouldnt bank on it.
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Nah as much as Rondo/Doc would draw to him, I think its very very very slim.

Atlanta, Dallas, LA. That's it for him.

I mean Rondo and Doc are a pretty good foundation to offer him, but I think LA because it can offer the most $, and its LA, Dallas since they will go insane on the offer and ATL since its home.

Id love the idea of Howard in Boston, but I wouldnt bank on it.
true...would you trade KG just to get him up there and try your luck?
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true...would you trade KG just to get him up there and try your luck?
He'd hafta ask us first to deal him, and the Celtics would probably need to bottom out big time, but sure I'd take the chance. Worst case scenario you trade him in a sign and trade deal and get picks, exceptions and maybe a player?

Worth the risk, but not unless the Celtics just totally bottom out
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Nah as much as Rondo/Doc would draw to him, I think its very very very slim.

Atlanta, Dallas, LA. That's it for him.

I mean Rondo and Doc are a pretty good foundation to offer him, but I think LA because it can offer the most $, and its LA, Dallas since they will go insane on the offer and ATL since its home.

Id love the idea of Howard in Boston, but I wouldnt bank on it.
Houston is in the mix.
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Good road win tonight. Monster game for that old guy KG.
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KG should get MVP, cant fathom the Celtics without him
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KG should get MVP, cant fathom the Celtics without him
Not sure about MVP but it is fun to watch him on a night to night basis. Still one of the top defensive players in the game.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:57 PM   #396 (permalink)
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Always fun to beat down the Lakers.
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Wow 6-0 without Rondo.

Tony Mazz has to be happiest media d bag in Boston now. Guys hatred for Rondo is unreal. Now he claims Ray Allen was right about Rondo. Just wow.
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Crushed the Lakers tonight in Beantown. Nice win!
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Wow 6-0 without Rondo.

Tony Mazz has to be happiest media d bag in Boston now. Guys hatred for Rondo is unreal. Now he claims Ray Allen was right about Rondo. Just wow.
Keeps people listening. Have to remember those guys are entertainers as much as anything. Good article on weei.com yesterday explaining how silly the whole thing is.
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As for the trade rumors.....

"On a last note, I just want to say that I love my situation here," said Garnett. "I don't know what y'all sources or whoever's making up these bull---- --- articles about me getting traded to Denver and all these other places. But I bleed green and I continue to do that. And if it's up to me, then I'm going to retire a Celtic. So I just want everybody to know that, alright?"
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