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Old 01-07-2013, 01:50 PM   #251 (permalink)
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I would love to hear some stories.....

I think you would know a user named Haiku... He tried to perform similar things on SCF but he was stopped... He also tried to create numerous accounts and all attempts were blocked...

I am not sure why you even posted a reply to my initial post....I never mentioned you under... You seemed very defensive.....Odd...

If you're so proud of your eBay account and your selling there, why don't you have it on here to help promote sales?
Because I know people like you. You would exploit it to cause me harm. Im not stupid. You keep on keepin!!

You want to be warned of scammers, then use the right portion of the forum. There is a feedback section. I have directed you to it many times but you seem to ignore it. For someone who says they work for a forum, I thought guidance would come easy.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:55 PM   #252 (permalink)
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Because I know people like you. You would exploit it to cause me harm. Im not stupid. You keep on keepin!!

You want to be warned of scammers, then use the right portion of the forum. There is a feedback section. I have directed you to it many times but you seem to ignore it. For someone who says they work for a forum, I thought guidance would come easy.
What I figured.......
I honestly wouldn't trust your guidance under any circumstances and I know where the feedback section. I asked a user who was posting in the thread and he gave me relevant and useful information about users who have been banned on other site... I will protect myself when I see fit.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:12 PM   #253 (permalink)
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So as a seller on Ebay, there is nothing I can do to protect myself from the buyer saying "the card wasn't in the package"?

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Old 01-07-2013, 07:26 PM   #254 (permalink)
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So as a seller on Ebay, there is nothing I can do to protect myself from the buyer saying "the card wasn't in the package"?

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welcome to ebay! they have no real seller protection. not sure why this is a surprise to anyone. it was pretty clear the direction they were heading back when they terminated sellers' ability to leave neutral and negative feedback comments. it's all a dream come true for frauds like matty_ice_2, haiku etc.
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welcome to ebay! they have no real seller protection. not sure why this is a surprise to anyone. it was pretty clear the direction they were heading back when they terminated sellers' ability to leave neutral and negative feedback comments. it's all a dream come true for frauds like matty_ice_2, haiku etc.
I agree, though it was probably just to save themselves time from having to sort out all the retaliatory feedback...
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:38 PM   #256 (permalink)
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So as a seller on Ebay, there is nothing I can do to protect myself from the buyer saying "the card wasn't in the package"?

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would insurance at least cover your end. i mean the buyer would still get away with the card but wouldn't you at least get the insurance claim?
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:43 PM   #257 (permalink)
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So as a seller on Ebay, there is nothing I can do to protect myself from the buyer saying "the card wasn't in the package"?

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I remember you had a problem about a year ago with a card that never made it you. It ended up on ebay and you guys went through insurance and it paid out.

As for buying something and getting an empty package? I guess you could return the empty package via refund and send it with DC and paypal would refund you? Works both ways.
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would insurance at least cover your end. i mean the buyer would still get away with the card but wouldn't you at least get the insurance claim?
Yeah I'm a strong supporter of postal insurance - anything valuable being posted should be insured. However some people mentioned loopholes or that the cover didn't cover certain things, like the person stealing it at the other end.
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Yeah I'm a strong supporter of postal insurance - anything valuable being posted should be insured. However some people mentioned loopholes or that the cover didn't cover certain things, like the person stealing it at the other end.
hmm but if it wasn't in the package couldn't you technically prove that something was (with the shipping weight) and then it would seem that it was stolen in transit? whether or not it really was or whether it is just the buyer stealing it.

wouldn't that be the claim you would file in the insurance?
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hmm but if it wasn't in the package couldn't you technically prove that something was (with the shipping weight) and then it would seem that it was stolen in transit? whether or not it really was or whether it is just the buyer stealing it.

wouldn't that be the claim you would file in the insurance?
Potentially, yes. But how would you prove the weight on delivery, or what's to stop a seller putting something in the envelope just so there is some weight in it.
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Potentially, yes. But how would you prove the weight on delivery, or what's to stop a seller putting something in the envelope just so there is some weight in it.
thats true but as a seller you get a receipt that says how many ounces the package was. Now if a buyer does not receive or claims to not receive anything it would seem that the seller (as long as he got insurance) could claim it was stolen out of the package. does that not work?

of course a seller could ship a fake card or cardboard or something but that becomes a different type of scamming issue with many other factors. i'm just trying to figure out if as a legit seller a card doesn't 'show up' are you covered if you bought insurance.
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thats true but as a seller you get a receipt that says how many ounces the package was. Now if a buyer does not receive or claims to not receive anything it would seem that the seller (as long as he got insurance) could claim it was stolen out of the package. does that not work?

of course a seller could ship a fake card or cardboard or something but that becomes a different type of scamming issue with many other factors. i'm just trying to figure out if as a legit seller a card doesn't 'show up' are you covered if you bought insurance.
Couldn't say.
I'm just thinking that if you are a seller it's getting to the point where you might have to take a printout of the auction/deal and get the postal employee to sign it to say that is what you're putting in the package before sealing it....
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Couldn't say.
I'm just thinking that if you are a seller it's getting to the point where you might have to take a printout of the auction/deal and get the postal employee to sign it to say that is what you're putting in the package before sealing it....
yeah its so sketchy that it seems either the buyer or the seller could get scammed on the same thing.
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Crap gets so confusing when dealing with the postal service ugh!

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Also, when I bought $2000 postal insurance once for a card I was sending, they lady told me to make sure I have a "receipt" that shows I bought the card for $2000 and that I would need that receipt to file any postal insurance claim even though I "paid" for $2000 insurance on the package. We all knows cards don't work that way as we may have bought a card for $500 (have a receipt saying we bought it for 5 bills), but now it is worth say $2000 when we sell it and ready to ship. So its a bunch of BS man!
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Also, when I bought $2000 postal insurance once for a card I was sending, they lady told me to make sure I have a "receipt" that shows I bought the card for $2000 and that I would need that receipt to file any postal insurance claim even though I "paid" for $2000 insurance on the package. We all knows cards don't work that way as we may have bought a card for $500 (have a receipt saying we bought it for 5 bills), but now it is worth say $2000 when we sell it and ready to ship. So its a bunch of BS man!
I dunno, I can see that side. I insure every single parcel I send. However I know that if I have to make a claim I need to either show proof of what I paid for it, or what they have paid for it from me. Things have to be done based on actual proof, rather than 'current market value'.
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