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Old 01-13-2013, 04:38 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah, All we really know for a fact is that people will demand both these products and they will sell like hot cakes. People will want to invest in these. Noone knows whether black/gold prizm or NT will be higher value.
For rookies, I think it will generally along the line of

NT logoman/logtag auto 1/1 >> NT RPA /5 ~ Finite black >Prizm gold /10=1/3-1/2 Prizm Finite black price (quite a bit less of prizm gold is /25).

For Kobe, I know my department.
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Yeah, All we really know for a fact is that people will demand both these products and they will sell like hot cakes. People will want to invest in these. Noone knows whether black/gold prizm or NT will be higher value.
you can count on NT logoman auto being more valuable than black prizm. and you can count on he nt rpas will be the most desirable rookies...at least compared to prizm.
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This is the problem when things get hot .

Black 1/1 will come out and people will ask for much more then they are really worth and they sit on ebay listed over and over again and then the true collector will get a steal . (good for Him or )
The why second year stuff is never as good as the first
I would not be shocked if a lillard black gets $2500-$3500 but to say it will get 10k is laughable .

These cards are nice and there are really are some decent deals on these I think . Lets not make them out to be the best card ever made .
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:50 PM   #55 (permalink)
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like the cards, hate that panini is putting prizms in a product other than prizm itself. Absolutely hate it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:50 PM   #56 (permalink)
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you can count on NT logoman auto being more valuable than black prizm. and you can count on he nt rpas will be the most desirable rookies...at least compared to prizm.
I will pass on any Nt rpa numbered over 10 , If I cannot afford to buy it I will pass .

you heard it hear first

/99 /49 /25 /10 5 / 1/1

180 Rpa rookies .

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Old 01-13-2013, 04:50 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Funny how they consistently rip off of other brands but this particular set looks better then the original (Superfractors) imo! Very well done, hope to grab one for the pc!
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Will be buying Prizm football. Looks amazing.

So they are having both black 1/1 non auto and autograph versions of some?
The Brady looks like non auto version, but others shown have light space on bottom for auto to go.
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Kobe prizm refractor should hold value if you bought at pre-hype prices. Congrats!
Yeah, I think I got them Early enough.

Kobe Base $9.99
Kobe Finalist $14.50
Kobe USA $47
Kobe MVP $20
Kobe Downtown Bound $16

Kobe Green $40 thanks to an awesome member here!

So I got 5 Kobe refractors and one green for $150
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Yeah, I think I got them Early enough.

Kobe Base $9.99
Kobe Finalist $14.50
Kobe USA $47
Kobe MVP $20
Kobe Downtown Bound $16

Kobe Green $40 thanks to an awesome member here!

So I got 5 Kobe refractors and one green for $150
They don't dip below that, LOL. If they do, PM me. Would love to see a group shot of the refractor 5-card set.
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2009 10 National Treasures Kobe Bryant Auto BGS 9 Exquisite Prizm Absolute PMG | eBay



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They don't dip below that, LOL. If they do, PM me. Would love to see a group shot of the refractor 5-card set.
Definitely! Just waiting on the downtown bound
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Definitely! Just waiting on the downtown bound
My favorite out of the five. Wish Panini has a converion issued prizm black Kobe with first year Kobe design.
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My favorite out of the five. Wish Panini has a converion issued prizm black Kobe with first year Kobe design.
What you mean? Like years from now releasing a black refractor reprint of it?
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I wish they did a better job in their insert sets.

MVP, USA was a good idea. But Downtown Bound and Finalist are weak. They should have done a rc set in "Sophomores" to include 2 yrs of rookies and maybe a "Gamers" or "Legends" subset instead.
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I will pass on any Nt rpa numbered over 10 , If I cannot afford to buy it I will pass .

you heard it hear first

/99 /49 /25 /10 5 / 1/1

180 Rpa rookies .
Heard what first? That you'll pass on nts over ten? The number of rookie rpas? I don't think they do /49 or /10 first of all...so 130 rpas?
You saying prizms will be worth more than /5?
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I wish they did a better job in their insert sets.

MVP, USA was a good idea. But Downtown Bound and Finalist are weak. They should have done a rc set in "Sophomores" to include 2 yrs of rookies and maybe a "Gamers" or "Legends" subset instead.
I honestly think the USA insert is one of my favorite inserts ever.

I know it's not possible, but I would love a set that looked exactly like that with the Dream Team. That would be so awesome!

Regardless, I really think the Kobe USA insert specifically is such a great card because I don't really associate guys like Carmelo, Anthony Davis, Kevin Love, Tyson Chandler and even Lebron with the Olympics the way I do Kobe. I think it's a pretty Iconic card with that great fist pump photo
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Heard what first? That you'll pass on nts over ten? The number of rookie rpas? I don't think they do /49 or /10 first of all...so 130 rpas?
You saying prizms will be worth more than /5?
I honestly think RPAs will sell for more. There are specific collectors who didn't or wont buy Gold prizm because all they focus on are autos/patches. The market for RPAs might be larger than for base paralells with no auto/patches.

We'll see when it comes out. I think NT will have /99, /25 and /5. 1/1 always has a place in NT base set. WIth the amount of rookies from a double draft class will make the checklist huge and hard to obtain the big names.
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Heard what first? That you'll pass on nts over ten? The number of rookie rpas? I don't think they do /49 or /10 first of all...so 130 rpas?
You saying prizms will be worth more than /5?
No that there will be more then 130 .

Who cares what I buy .
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No that there will be more then 130 .

Who cares what I buy .
you brought it up...
i was just trying to figure out what it was i was 'hearing there first'. that you wont buy them? because the only other thing you said was false rpa numbers...
if they do it like every year of nt it will be /99, /25, /5, and /1...
so...
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you brought it up...
i was just trying to figure out what it was i was 'hearing there first'. that you wont buy them? because the only other thing you said was false rpa numbers...
if they do it like every year of nt it will be /99, /25, /5, and /1...
so...
Yeah that won't happen this year 99 49 25 10 5 1
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This is the problem when things get hot .

Black 1/1 will come out and people will ask for much more then they are really worth and they sit on ebay listed over and over again and then the true collector will get a steal . (good for Him or )
The why second year stuff is never as good as the first
I would not be shocked if a lillard black gets $2500-$3500 but to say it will get 10k is laughable .

These cards are nice and there are really are some decent deals on these I think . Lets not make them out to be the best card ever made .
Its hard to tell from pictures. WOuld have to see the card in person to see if it is nicer than the Gold prizms. But gold Lillards/Kyries go for 3-4k. SO a black 1/1 prizm lillard is worth a lot more than that. This is not even taking in to account the fact that golds are still rising in prices
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Yeah that won't happen this year 99 49 25 10 5 1
Why? What makes you think that?
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Why? What makes you think that?
Football has it

exquisite hockey even did nugent hockey 99 then 93 hand signed its the new wave

more production
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Football has it

exquisite hockey even did nugent hockey 99 then 93 hand signed its the new wave

more production
Well that's not basketball...we'll see but I haven't heard of them changing it...
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