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Old 01-13-2013, 01:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What do you think Kobe, or Kyrie or Lillard would sell for?

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Black prizms would be awesome.

They would probably go for $4,000+.
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That is ridiculously awesome I might have to buy prism football now because of these.
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Those are so sick
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Not sure if I like the idea of the autographed versions, but the base versions are definitely awesome looking
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With so many top notch rookies in this years football class, this is very very tempting. Can only imagine what a Lillard would bring.
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Pretty awesome card . I saw the rg 3 gold and it looked sweet
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Be happy that these are not in basketball, because I think the price of golds would be lower as they would no longer be the chase card
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Be happy that these are not in basketball, because I think the price of golds would be lower as they would no longer be the chase card
Yeah that is true.

I mean football has more color with the blacks and reds, but that also brings down the value of the regular refractors.
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Looks Like Panini's Superfactor
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1/1 does not really affect it as a 1/1 lillard will be over 5k it would probably help golds .

Now if they did /10 /25 /50 that would hurt golds
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1/1 does not really affect it as a 1/1 lillard will be over 5k it would probably help golds .

Now if they did /10 /25 /50 that would hurt golds
I think it's smart of Panini to put more color in football.

Basketball has superstars that can carry a product. Football in general tends to sell for cheaper so bad basketball prizm boxes would still get you $20 probably, but those same football boxes might only bring you $10.

So by adding color it adds value and makes up for the lower selling sport
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Be happy that these are not in basketball, because I think the price of golds would be lower as they would no longer be the chase card

1/1's are so rare that they aren't collectible so that I don't think they'd really detract from the collectibility of the golds, kinda like /5 greens and 1/1 blacks from TC.

Adding the 1/1s to Prizm would've been great for the product, one can only wonder why they did it to their football release and not for us basketball collectors
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From a basketball card collecting standpoint, I don't think i've ever seen a design like that. Looks great and would Prizm even more desirable imo.
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Golds are to /25 in football
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From a basketball card collecting standpoint, I don't think i've ever seen a design like that. Looks great and would Prizm even more desirable imo.
Basketball had them, they were just hard to come by as Topps lost their license before they started making 4 brands with superfractors

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I thought Panini was inserting these in select basketball? I could be wrong
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I thought Panini was inserting these in select basketball? I could be wrong
Really? That's interesting. Haven't heard that, but I also know nothing about select basketball ha
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I thought Panini was inserting these in select basketball? I could be wrong
That'd be nice, where'd you get that? I have high hopes for Select
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Yes they will have prizm echnology in select basketball 1/1 black and /25 golds

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you guys need to read the product information section under news and annoucements. blowout also posts the threads here as well.


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A 325-card base set including 75 rookies that featuring either an autograph, or an autograph and a swatch of memorabilia
A Hot Stars lineup bolstered by White Hot and Prizm parallels for both
Three distinct Prizm parallels (Prizms, Gold Prizms numbered to 25 and Black Prizms numbered to only 1)
Each seven-pack mini-box will yield two autographs, two Prizms and three inserts

Just need a bigger patch window and patches for this set and it would probably do really well

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i think next year basketball has these too.
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i think next year basketball has these too.
I agree they will incorporate them into next years. Seems like this year was more of a T&E series. Looks like they used basketball out of the gate and made adjustments to football which we will see in next years basketball
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Delibrately or not, I think Panini did a great job to keep highest level parallel to be /10 in its inaugural release. Having 1/1 will dwarf /10 gold for sure, BUT no one can realistically compare prices of 1/1 or go after them in a large number under a theme, leading to that prices of 1/1 will suffer and price of gold /10 will suffer. Exactly the reason why 90s masterpieces sell less than PMG green /10. When a product doesn't sell too high, there will be less hype etc.

There is also this reason: Why apple didn't give out retina display ipad mini in its release when it's so easy to do, because there will be room of improvement, and can earn money from early adopters and more restrained buyers who look to have all the features. But even having less features, the inaugural release will always have more sentimental and historical values.
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By the way, the refracting pattern looks like cheap postcards bought from museum gift shop, and hope they can do more fancy version to basketball next year.
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